Munster Senior League

On the subject of the standard of football i think it isnt too bad,teams play different styles and some are better to watch than others. I am pretty new to watching the msl but what i have noticed is a lot of people seem to go to matches just to knock teams. There is a roundy lad(i wont mention names!)down mallow way who has a go at officials and both teams every week! Another guy i noticed is a lad with a tash up at college games who just slates the team from start to finish,he has the corinthians tracksuit on in all sure! Surely they can find something else to do on a sunday morning!!! I suppose all clubs have one or two eejits!

Malcolm stokes and martin cambridge taking over the hall next year and gareth cambridge to be their first signing all coming from the horses mouth

Paul Feehan in charge out in st marys after manager jacked it in,not a good sign for the club,huge game this weekend i know its early but whoever loses the st marys v midleton game is destined for the drop

Heard manager jacked it in Saturday alright. Why fleezer in charge tho? Surely more experienced guys out there available both in and outside the club! Should hear more about this tonight might have been a knee jerk reaction after Saturdays embarrassing show

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Originally Posted by six-yard-box

Heard manager jacked it in Saturday alright. Why fleezer in charge tho? Surely more experienced guys out there available both in and outside the club! Should hear more about this tonight might have been a knee jerk reaction after Saturdays embarrassing show

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Strange appointment alright not too sure of the going ons out there just passing on the info,wonder what players will end up leaving after this,i wudnt imagine there are any very good players out there anyway the way they have started off the season!

Well if it's true I'd imagine cooney and jp will head to castleview we'll know more tonight anyway heard there's a crisis meeting out there tonight

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Originally Posted by six-yard-box

Well if it's true I'd imagine cooney and jp will head to castleview we'll know more tonight anyway heard there's a crisis meeting out there tonight

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Not a good sign for a club in the relegation zone,we are playing ourselves saturday its a shame because i would have liked to go to kilcully to watch the 6 pointer

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Originally Posted by code red

Credit has to go to Midleton. For a team in trouble and badly needing a win, they fought like demons down there and should ahve won the game without question.
I'd have to disagree with your comment about fitness goggs.Blarney put in a big 90 mins.At some stages from what I could see, it was 1 against 3 in the middle of midfield but they kept going and after playing poorly for 75 mins, they could have won it in the end.
The reason for the disgruntled Blarney fans on the sideline was fairlyy obvious to anyone down watching the game.The ref and the linesman on the far side where a disgrace.At 1 all, a midleton player had got treatment so had to go off.Blarney had the ball while he was off the pitch and were breaking down the right.Just as the right winger got the ball, the linesman (Midleton local I believe) left the Midleton player back on the pitch exactly where Blarney were breaking.He just interceipted the ball and went down and Midleton scored.This was just one in a series of terrible decisions from all officials.
Midleton should have also got a stone wall spotter at the end.
Midleton will be ok if they keep fighting like that.

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Funnily enough you seem top forget the free kick which the ''midleton'' linesman gave to blarney for what seemed to me to be no reason and which was less than 3 yards away from me also on the subject of the blarney supporters they were nothing short of a disgrace in the way they carried out there threatening and near violent behavior to the linesman no place in the game for it no exceptions, no doubt just a bad bunch of supporters out of a great and respectable club

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Originally Posted by el nino coro

Not a good sign for a club in the relegation zone,we are playing ourselves


saturday its a shame because i would have liked to go to kilcully to watch the 6 pointer

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I'd say you be safe enough Saturday to watch the 6 pointer because people in the know tell me that you won't be playing any match...shame to see a big club like Marys in such a shambles but have a feeling they will bounce back..were they in same situation last season?

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Originally Posted by six-yard-box

Well if it's true I'd imagine cooney and jp will head to castleview we'll know more tonight anyway heard there's a crisis meeting out there tonight

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hopefully .Jp be a great signing for castleview

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Originally Posted by Chiefscout

I'd say you be safe enough Saturday to watch the 6 pointer because people in the know tell me that you won't be playing any match...shame to see a big club like Marys in such a shambles but have a feeling they will bounce back..were they in same situation last season?

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Ya you singlehandedly dragged them to safety sure :)

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Originally Posted by six-yard-box

Ya you singlehandedly dragged them to safety sure :)

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The revival last year was because of six yards impact when he joined at christmas,no one to get them out of the hole there in this time!

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Originally Posted by Sparky

The Teams in the AUL would not survive in the MSL Premier Division - NO WAY. Leeds, Midleton, Marys, Corinthians etc who are tipped to go down this year are far better than Aul Premier teams. I was at Douglas Hall and Avondale last Sunday and fair play to both teams for always getting the ball down, great game to be fair. I want to add that .

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The AUL teams would not be applying to get into the MSL Senior Division.
The top AUL teams would perform very well in the 2nd and 1st Divisions MSL though.

As for MSL Juniors beating the aul team.
It might be better to look at the AUL club games v MSL club games
Kinsale beat Douglas Hall juniors comfortably in the MFA Junior Champions Cup
Wilton beat Rockmount and Carrigaline juniors easily I think in other cups.

The top AUL sides are better than MSL junior sides most seasons.
AUL teams would improve the 2nd and 1st divisions of the MSL.
There are plenty of MSL teams who are "disguised" as senior teams at the moment.
These teams can not be relegated to the AUL.
This is wrong.

AUL teams do not do as well in the FAI Jun Cup as the top MSL teams do in the FAI Intermediate Cup for a number of reasons.
The quality at the business end of these two competitions is very comparable.
Pike Rovers, Carrick Utd, St. Michaels would do very well in the Intermediate Cup for example.
AUL teams are not at this level - to improve they would need to play better teams every week - in the MSL Senior Divisions for instance.
Also by going senior it would help prevent senior teams poaching our better players.


Please remember where the majority of MSL Senior teams have come from - The Cork AUL.
Rockmount, Avondale, Blarney, St Marys, Castleview, Douglas Hall, Mayfield etc etc

Nail head and all that jazz there shilts great post.

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Originally Posted by Shilts

The AUL teams would not be applying to get into the MSL Senior Division.
The top AUL teams would perform very well in the 2nd and 1st Divisions MSL though.

As for MSL Juniors beating the aul team.
It might be better to look at the AUL club games v MSL club games
Kinsale beat Douglas Hall juniors confortably
Wilton beat Rockmount and Carrigaline juniors easily I think.

The top AUL sides are better than MSL junior sides most seasons.
AUL teams would improve the 2nd and 1st divisions of the MSL.
There are plenty of MSL teams who are "disguised" as senior teams at the moment.
These teams can not be relegated to the AUL.
This is wrong.

AUL teams do not do as well in the FAI Jun Cup as the top MSL teams do in the FAI Intermediate Cup for a number of reasons.
The quality at the business end of these two competitions is very comparable.
Pike Rovers, Carrick Utd, St. Michaels would do very well in the Intermediate Cup for example.
AUL teams are not at this level - to improve they would need to play better teams every week - in the MSL Senior Divisions for instance.
Also by going senior it would help prevent senior teams poaching our better players.


Please remember where the majority of MSL Senior teams have come from - The Cork AUL.
Rockmount, Avondale, Blarney, St Marys, Castleview, Douglas Hall, Mayfield etc etc

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Good Post Shilts. Do you think many AUL Teams look to get into MSL each year? I only ask as it seems to be obvious, this season especially, that there are a few teams struggling to to put out teams in the MSL.

Heard a rumour that 4 have applied to go senior leeside kinsale butttevant and park. Msl apparantly would welcome more they wouldn't mind going with 3 12 team leagues!!

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Originally Posted by Two Touch

Good Post Shilts. Do you think many AUL Teams look to get into MSL each year? I only ask as it seems to be obvious, this season especially, that there are a few teams struggling to to put out teams in the MSL.

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There has been a 5 year ban on teams transfering from AUL to MSL.
This was put in place when the AUL and MSL youth leagues joined up 5 years back (for some reason :confused:).
This ban will be lifted this year, I think, and there will be a few clubs looking to move to the MSL.

Candidates:
Park United from Mitchelstown
Buttevant
and Innishvilla all have great facilities

Leeside
Wilton United
and Kinsale are consistently the best teams

However, your guess is as good as mine as to who will actually apply.

But I think that some type of automatic promotion/relegation system should be put in place to ensure that the best teams always have an opportunity to rise to the top and crap teams/clubs do not retain their senior status just by showing up!!!

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Originally Posted by Shilts

The AUL teams would not be applying to get into the MSL Senior Division.
The top AUL teams would perform very well in the 2nd and 1st Divisions MSL though.

As for MSL Juniors beating the aul team.
It might be better to look at the AUL club games v MSL club games
Kinsale beat Douglas Hall juniors comfortably in the MFA Junior Champions Cup
Wilton beat Rockmount and Carrigaline juniors easily I think in other cups.

The top AUL sides are better than MSL junior sides most seasons.
AUL teams would improve the 2nd and 1st divisions of the MSL.
There are plenty of MSL teams who are "disguised" as senior teams at the moment.
These teams can not be relegated to the AUL.
This is wrong.

AUL teams do not do as well in the FAI Jun Cup as the top MSL teams do in the FAI Intermediate Cup for a number of reasons.
The quality at the business end of these two competitions is very comparable.
Pike Rovers, Carrick Utd, St. Michaels would do very well in the Intermediate Cup for example.
AUL teams are not at this level - to improve they would need to play better teams every week - in the MSL Senior Divisions for instance.
Also by going senior it would help prevent senior teams poaching our better players.


Please remember where the majority of MSL Senior teams have come from - The Cork AUL.
Rockmount, Avondale, Blarney, St Marys, Castleview, Douglas Hall, Mayfield etc etc

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That post brought a tear to my eye.
Simply Beautiful Shilts

it was played in bandon, game was supposed to be played in temple park 2weeks ago but bandon cancelled and temples pitch wasnt playable as it wasnt lined i was told. so the game was scheduled to be played in temple this time but again the pitch was wrecked from weather so it was changed at d last minute to bandons pitch, and i mean LAST MINUTE. it was changed about 1pm for a 3pm kick off

The MSL in the past have stopped teams going up because their facilities are not good enough.
Buttevant's facilities are as good as ANY in the MSL but then ability is questioned.

By the way, Kinsale's "field" is as good a playing surface as any in the MSL.
You obviously haven't been down for a spin in the last few years!!!

Leeside, Wilton and Kinsale would handle themselves very well in the Senior 1st Div.
Of course they would have to start in the 2nd but none of those 3 clubs would fear the present 2nd Div "senior teams".

I've played MSL Senior Prem and 1st as well as AUL Prem so I have a fair idea of what is required at each level.

Also, congrats to Bandon who are doing so well recently as you mentioned.
Six of their players have won AUL Prem medals in the past...with Kinsale :)