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Closing The Doors
Anselmo Garcia McNulty
https://twitter.com/R9Irish/status/1443272414243209217
These are the statements which we should respond to by closing the door and replacing with players who ARE closing the door on other countries. Does not matter where they are born, does matter where their commitment lies
Man born and bred in Spain with an Irish mother happy and proud to represent Ireland but not against the idea of representing Spain. Shocking stuff.
The reality is, players like Tony Cascarino, Ray Houghton, Andy Townsend, Jason McAteer - they were never asked these questions at that young an age. He’s talking to a Spanish newspaper, where there’s a certain audience and a certain expectation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Paddy Garcia
Anselmo is 18. He’s been to every 16s, 17s, 19s and 21s squad since he was 14 or 15. He’s never missed a call up. Why on earth would you alienate a young player who is a model pro and is one of our most talented young lads. Seriously, it’s the stock answer for all young players with dual eligibility with some degree of nuance. Both for the lads born in ireland of Albanian or Nigerian descent or the lads born in Europe of irish descent (Noss, McNulty, Johansson)
I'll never understand the inconsistency of views from Ireland supporters regarding dual nationals.
Mipo Odubeko, born and raised in Dublin - but if he decides to play for Nigeria that's generally accepted as absolutely fine in terms of his heritage (as long as he doesn't play for England).
Anselmo Garcia, born and raised in Spain - if he doesn't completely close the door on Spain at 18 he should be told to fcuk off.
It's bizarre.
Plenty of very foolish people out there Eirambler. The complexity of dual nationality seems to elude them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eirambler
Sandy Walsh has paperwork done
You're absolutely correct. It is bizarre.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eirambler
I've only seen Scully and Keane play once or twice each and not this season. You should see the screaming over on YBIG about Scully being overlooked for Keane. Have these people seen either play or appreciate their position? And then you have the posters who reference Keane's representation of England. He did represent England and he did it many more times than Scully did. But, Scully did.
When people only see things in black and white, they leave themselves open to such inconsistency.
Pity for him he's not a midfielder or a forward.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bielsa´s irish
Yes, I'll never understand the issue with players having played underage for other countries. It happens all the time, loads of our squad have played for England and NI at underage level, it is what it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Olé Olé
Personally, and maybe it's just me, but I'd like to see the eligibility and switching criteria massively simplified compared to what it is now. Simply, at underage level, let players play for any country they're eligible for without it locking them in to any one country. Underage football is really just about player development anyway, the nationality side of it doesn't really matter too much. But at senior level make it that once you're capped for a country at senior international level after your 18th birthday, that's it, no more changing. Would make things so much more straightforward.
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Originally Posted by Olé Olé
Don't worry - it won't be long before tells Bielsa us he's Tony Galvin/Liam Brady/Cillian Sheridan reincarnate.:cool:
In fairness, Bielsa - good spot. Has anyone seen him play?
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The spot was the paperwork update.
Dropped from the squad today. Genuinely hope its not a reaction to his non-committal statement.Quote:
Originally Posted by Olé Olé
Yourself and Eirambler seem to think the decision to play underage international football is akin to picking a pair of shoes - temporary and interchangeable. It's not.
Plenty of "foolish people" have had enough of the Grealish and Rice type embarrassments. I seem to have expressed a naive view that players pulling on the Irish shirt should commit to Ireland - shocking stuff.
My family have played underage for Ireland and every shirt is cherished - I really don't think this is anywhere near understood.
Lads playing no football this season bar the odd game for their U19s as Wolfsburg have done away with their reserve team, and he's always been an unused sub in any match day squad he's been in. More than likely gonna be in the U19s instead for November. Probably wouldn't have been with the U21s only for the U19s not playing in nearly two years.
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Originally Posted by Paddy Garcia
He was 4th choice centre half recently for the 21s: McGuinness, McEntee and O’Brien all ahead of him. Along with Collins and Omobamidele. Normally you’d have 4 centre halves involved but that’s for 2 games. The 4th choice is more likely to be useful playing or on the bench in the second game.Quote:
Originally Posted by JR89
Due to the complications with the English and German based players: it’s already a 24 man squad without him and only 20 in the match day squad, often your second centre half will miss out on the match day squad with 9 subs and he’s unavailable for game 2, so not like if there’s an injury in game 1 that they can use him in the second game. Instead they chose to integrate someone like Kerrigan in the squad who will likely play the second game
And Walsh scored a wonder goal in BelgiumQuote:
Originally Posted by Eminence Grise
Apologies if mentioned before, but just noticed Anthony Gordon from Everton is eligible via a Grandparent. Having a tidy enough game against United playing in midfield, where we are sadly lacking. Certainly a step up from Will Keane in terms of poaching off England.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anth...n_(footballer)
That’s interesting and certainly worth pursuing. Forgive the lateral departure but does anyone have an update on Will Smallbone’s recovery? Two premiership quality young midfielders would make a massive difference to the team.
Smallbone is back in training I think. But it can be a good few months between starting training and being fully match fit coming back from that kind of injury.