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Probably there for the money, I heard he was on 4 mil a year...hard to turn down that dough.Quote:
Originally Posted by OwlsFan
It would be interesting to see if he'd take a pay cut to manage Ireland (in fairness less work, which at his age may suit him).
Italy manager win success rate from Setanta.
Code:Manager GP W D L Win%
Bearzot 88 40 26 22 45%
Vicini 54 33 14 7 61%
Sacchi 53 34 11 8 64%
Maldini 20 10 8 2 50%
Zoff 23 11 7 5 48%
Trapattoni 44 25 12 7 57%
Lippi 29 17 10 2 59%
Donadoni 16 10 3 3 63%
Yeah cause young hungry managers always win international tournaments. Sure anyone with experience generally fails at international level. :). I hope you are not in HR in some company Owls fan.Quote:
Originally Posted by OwlsFan
The clue is in the name, Red Bull Salzburg are being run as an offshoot of the Red Bull world and are attempting to buy success. A good way of doing this is buying a top manager as it is probably tough to attract players.Quote:
Originally Posted by OwlsFan
International managers should be old, we dont want someone who'll p*ss off to a club whenever an offer comes in.
Lippi
Rehagal
Scolari
Lemerre
Jacquet
Vogts
Parreira
Moller Nielson
Beckanbauer
Michels
What have they all got in common, they all won major international championships and none was an up and coming hungry manager.
From wikipedia but I cant find it anywhere on the Gazetta Dello Sport website.
Early reports from the February 8th edition of Italian football paper "Gazetta Dello Sport" indicate that Trapattoni has turned down the offer to become the Republic of Ireland manager
so we spent two months to end up with billly davies and/or terry venables.
I'd be careful about quoting from Wikipedia .. It's being used by Betfair jokers to ramp various candidates.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeilMcD
I know I would have presumed that people know better than believe everything from it, I was trying to get someone to confirm the Gazetta Dello Sport bit.
From the Indo.
Ireland need a defensive guru -- not a lecture from the purists
Nothing new there. Delaney's media buddies have been cooking Venables curry for months. He's just what the Oirish deserve - a cockney spoofer with gangster connections.Quote:
Originally Posted by mypost
Quote:
Originally Posted by NeilMcD
I wouldn't call anti-Trap folk 'purists'. 'Thick gob****es' would be closer to the mark.
Perhaps the "old thing" isn't a bad omen. Otto Rehhagel won the Euro 2004 with Greece at the age of 66.Quote:
Originally Posted by cavan_fan
eh you will find that was the point of my previous post with the list of all the winners who none were young up and coming managers.Quote:
Originally Posted by OwlsFan
Bugger it if true, can't understand why so many want venables to get it, Trap is better than him in virtually every department, some might argue that a lot of Traps success came before 1990 but his recent record is still a lot better than venables so whatever way you look at it its a no-brainerQuote:
Originally Posted by NeilMcD
Well Trapattoni is still winning trophies and Venables' last trophy (there were two) was in 1991.
Neil McD your not supposed to quote whole articles, id post a link before a mod sees it
BillyLord see above, you're not supposed to quote posts which quote whole articles
If I was venables Id have told the Fai to flip off at this stage. He has been the favorite right from the start and they never made him an offer and suddenly out of nowhere Trapattoni comes out of the woodwork!! I hope Trap gets it by the way but Venables must be saying to himself are these lads takin the mick he was up for the job the time kerr and stan got the job and again they look like they may shun him.
Maybe the Davies leaks are to prevent Venables saying "ok, so Trapattoni has declined, there's nobody else left, now I want 2 million a year".
At this stage, i hope Trappatoni gets it. The whole process will then have been worthwhile. He may be pushing on but he has the credentials that any one of us would have snapped at, at the start of this saga. Alongside Liam Brady, it would be ideal.
And on top of that, im keen for a manager with a different thinking to come in, as opposed to the english/irish manager style of play. Things can never be as bad as they were under stan anyway.......surely not.
Its the Irish Times and the only way you can read it is if you are subscribed so a link is pointless.Quote:
Originally Posted by Block G Raptor
the lads are praying it wont be trap becuase they might not have such an easy time of it with him as they would with el tel , imo
Exactly cr@p like I think the manager should speak fluent english from Dunne made me laugh even if the man has won almost everything there is to win in the game!!??Quote:
Originally Posted by RogerMilla
If the FAI want to qualify for the world cup they should do whatever it takes to get Trap in the job. IMO we have the players all we need is a capable manager
Just watched the RTE panel's discussion on Trap. I particularly agree with Dunphy's description of some parts of the media's "campaign to impose Venables on Irish football".
Bar the usual hyperbole ("it'd be the greatest thing to happen Irish soccer ever" / "we WILL qualify for 2010) I've got to say they're right to endorse Trap.
A source of mine let me know the latest on the Ireland managers job.
Billy Davies reckons his interview went very well and he was told a decision would be made "in the next five days". That was yesterday, so it looks like Wednesday is the day. I've also heard that one last ditch approach will be made to Coppell.
There is absolutely nothing coming from Trap's people and but an Italian source said that this is a good sign. He also says it's a job that is very attractive, part of the attraction being that he would be playing Italy twice.
The bottom line is that IF the FAI appoint Venables, they will have done so purely because they couldn't get choice A (Trap), B (Coppell) or C (Houllier).
I don't think Trap was choice A. He only entered the race two weeks ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeilMcD
He wasn't, but that man did not make himself available, nor did choice b, so as it stands Neil is correctQuote:
Originally Posted by Bonovox
and one way of doing the world domination thing is to qualify for the CL groups stages which they did.......oh wait, no they didnt actually.....bit of a **** up what with all the millions spentQuote:
Originally Posted by cavan_fan
I thought Aiden McGeady was outstanding today for Celtic. It was the first time he really stood out in a game that I saw. He did excellently for both goals he set up and his own was very good too.
I know you probably haven't watched Celtic regularly but he's been doing that for most of this season.Quote:
Originally Posted by superfrank
Trappatoni made and offer he can't refuse!!
http://www.chatsoccer.eu/news/index....r-Ireland.html
Done Deal ???????:eek: Please be so.
1st Assist
Goal
2nd Assist
Interview
Strachan couldn't have praised him any more after the match. I'm really looking forward to the Barca match with McGeady in this form.
The 2nd assist...pure quality :DQuote:
Originally Posted by eirebhoy
ps. did you ever see such a blatant penalty shout not awarded as when Venegoor was wrestled to the ground ? So what if it was 0-4 at the time.
Above posted edited with better quality videos.
So what did toodays Sunday Independent say?
Did I say he'd have a spring in his step after the Brazil match? ;) The Americans were impressed:
http://soccernet-akamai.espn.go.com/...233944&cc=5739Quote:
Magnificent Aiden McGeady was Celtic's chief tormentor against Aberdeen, running the desperate Dons ragged to help secure a stunning 5-1 victory in the Clydesdale Bank Premier League for Gordon Strachan's rampant side.
McGeady crossed for Shunsuke Nakamura's opener and added a second through a sumptuous low shot, before Scott McDonald converted a penalty just before the break having been fouled by Josh Walker.
A sensational turn from McGeady in the 47th minute then allowed McDonald to net with a close-range header
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However, Aberdeen's new-look defence was ripped apart with McGeady at the heart of Celtic's brilliant performance.
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Just as with Nakamura's goal, Aberdeen were soon made to pay for missing a goalscoring opportunity as Celtic doubled their advantage through McGeady.
The midfield maestro showed great composure to cut inside from the right, shift the ball on to his favoured foot and curl an exquisite low shot past Langfield from 25 yards out.
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However, a sumptuous pirouette on the ball saw McGeady once again bemuse the beleaguered Aberdeen back line and from the playmaker's chip McDonald nodded the ball past Langfield from barely a couple of yards out.
Strachan:
"He was just terrific. I hope when there's highlights shown of this later on that you do it credit because he was absolutely first class. It's OK having skill but to have the energy and fitness that he's got, which he's worked on... he really is on fire.
He's been working on his upper body for the last couple of years and that's helped him. We've spoke about one or two things that might help someone with his physique. He's taken that on board, he's worked very hard and because of that you're seeing displays like you saw today."
Any chance of him ever doing it for us?
Slightly better quality match highlights: (10 mins long and the highlights are of the whole game but it's mostly Aiden).
After seeing him play with full confidence in front of 70,000 Irish against the best team in the world I'm sure he'll be producing his club form for us from now on. No excuses any more if he's in good form for Celtic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Superhoops
Cheers therock. Much appreciated.
I think the FAI is going to end up making a real gamble if it appoint's Trappatoni - he's an excellent coach and I guess his time in Austria will have equipped him to work with average players - but the cost to the FAI in euros is going to be very high, I don't understand how it can't afford it .
They don't make much money as it is and if they pay 3-4 million euro a year to the manager of the senior team that will have a significant knock on effect on grass roots football in Ireland.
They'll have to play more friendlies to try and make some money and they have the cose of the new stadium.