Yes previous biggest win was by 10 goals. Though Derry scored 12 once. Even I'm feeling sorry for Athlone now that's enough.
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Yes previous biggest win was by 10 goals. Though Derry scored 12 once. Even I'm feeling sorry for Athlone now that's enough.
Derry 12-2 in Blarney of course. Only recently.
Result now. Weird one - Filippo with a point to prove after an indifferent run of form? Or Athlone just utter rubbish?
Ian Morris did not enjoy that!
I haven't seen the Athlone team but I suspect anyone they were actually paying wasn't kept on just for this game.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
That an embarassment to the league ,no team {even a div 1 team who finished almost bottom of their league}should lose by that score,Derry did beat Blarney 12-2 but Blarney were a junior outfit so anybody making excuses for that pitiful effort are fooling themselves,Athlone looked an absolute shambles in terms of organisation and fitness,tactically crazy setup which Dundalk had showed up 15 mins in.To be fair to Dundalk very professional performance all game but thats not the sort of history we want to see in our premier cup competition, athlone manager talking about starting a journey in interview afterwards he,s kidding himself.On another note what are Shels at.
Dundalk should be ashamed of themselves, taking the foot off the pedal like they did ;)
In the Cup "proper", yes, but in the Qualifying Cup 1st Round on 6 Nov 1926, Cobh Ramblers knocked in 14 against Shandon without reply. I suspect there are others in "non-League" rounds later, but I haven't the time at the moment.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Coincidentally, McEneff, the only scorer in other SF today, got one of two hat-tricks in the Blarney-Derry match in 2018.
Data if anyone wants it:
St James's Gate 0-10 Dolphin in 1932 (10 Jan)
[Shiels 5, McKay og, Patterson 2, Stevenson 2]
Rialto 1-11 Waterford in 1972 (13 Feb, Kilcohan Pk)
[Demsey; Hale 5 (1p), Kirby 3, Matthews, Humphries 2]
Blarney United 2-12 Derry City in 2018 (11 Aug, O'Shea Pk)
[David Welch, Conor Cronin; Ronan Hale 4, Aaron McEneff 7, 31, 45, Ally Roy 8, 20, 38, Rory Hale 42, Shane McNamee 12, 53, Cathal Farren 70, Kevin McHattie 77 (McEneff m/pen)]
Hard to know which is more embarrassing! Athlone losing 11 nil OR the team at top of the premier with masses of cash have a crapper ground than the team bottom of the FD.
It's a very nice stand in Athlone indeed, tbh it's the first time that I have taken notice that are not a few pictures that dont do justice. I dont think the pitch is artificial unless new enough but if its a grass pitch it is in top class condition. It's certainly where Harps can hope to get with their project.Quote:
Originally Posted by redobit
As for Oriel Park, it is both the fly in the ointment and is the ugly sister that ye wont have anyone say it out loud even though you know it is true!
Looked an artificial pitch to me. It’s a fine ground , particularly for a first division side that tend to struggle. I was only in it the once but it can be seen from the motorway and looks impressive when passing by.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
It is an artificial pitch as far as I'm aware. There was talk of the play off final being played there but one or both teams didn't want to play on the artificial pitch.
Was some talk of why an artificial pitch couldnt have been installed on ground outside the main area, keeping the grass pitch or have I mixed that up with another club? Either way it still looked the better of the artificial surfaces in the league.
Its a pity Athlone havent kicked on over the years. That stand was a major millstone around the neck until the stadium debt was cleared by an unknown benefactor but they havent made use of that opportunity really.
Just watching the game again, opposition aside, there is a definite upping of tempo in the Dundalk passing which had been laboured when the league resumed. Playing it out short continues but it is mixed up after that with the occasional long ball or crossfield pass. The way the wide men went both inside and outside has helpd with being less predictable also. Looking forward to this week's football. Hopefully the game v Molde wont have a major impact on the cup final and that game time = sharpness rather than fatigue. Depending on who lifts the cup will determine that ;p
General question for people - is it useful for a young side to get hammered like yesterday, to see what sort of level they need to get to or completely sould destroying. Thoughts?
At least 90% of them will never be good enough to reach that level no matter how hard they work so I don't think it'll do them much good at all to be honest.
No it's not. A one stand ground would have us in the doldrums with Athlone. One stand and a couple of terraces would be perfect but one stand and nothing else is a disaster for a clubQuote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
Athlone have one fantastic stand, but it's a horrible watch of a barren ground otherwise.
I went to an Athlone match a few years ago and id agree with Nigel its a pitch with one decent stand and nothing else.
Id rather have small terrace all around then one stand.
Confidence and momentum are huge, even though Athlone are awful DFC players will benefit from this run out given the poor run they are on.
Rovers havent convinced since coming back from the "mini covid" break so the cup final is hard to call.
Aaron Greene and Pico both missed yesterdays match
Went to Athlone for a game against Shamrock R few years back, Pat Fenlon first in charge I think. The guy at Bohs now was the Athlone manager. Nice stand indeed, and I really liked the little tea/coffee shop underneath. However I agree with others, that the ground needs further development. Way too open and barren feel to the place, and that was a nice August evening. Because it was a night game, that aspect of the ground didn't come across on telly last night I suppose.
Is there a suggestion there that Oriel Park would be preferred?
Ours is the same as Athlones only difference is we have seats all around it. I just wish that there was another stand opposite the main stand in our ground thats the only thing lacking imo but its not up to me to decide!Quote:
Originally Posted by wonder88
I hadn't really watched Dundalk very closely outside of our games under Perth, but it seems like what you're describing above is Dundalk in 2019? Perth obviously has different ideas about football than Kenny and would play more direct, did that change in the first half of this season?Quote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
As for the kids being destroyed, I think it will certainly have an effect but they've been hammered before, albeit not this badly. I'm sure there are few players in there who will learn and grow as players from it. Ronan Manning in particular looks like he's destined for better things.
Sounds like you may prepare for another 13 years for a move to a new ground. Its obviously not a final solution but an incremental development. If actively in Stranrolar with a complete stand the money for additional areas eg terracing would land a lot easier and quicker than is currently being experienced. I'd also consider need, is there much difference in having a large stand that is full surrounded by empty terraces, or the same with no terraces in the short/medium term? Is it preferable to be in a worn out semi derelict ground? I dont see how a new stand could push a club in to the doldrums except due to finanial pressures the playing budget suffers. Athlone are where they are for a whole bunch of reasons and the ground is fairly low on that list.Quote:
Originally Posted by thebronze14
Its hard to undertand what went on tbh apart from the players not playing. We dont know why and may never know. The biggest chance between Kenny and Perth imo was greater use of the squad. SK had tweaked tactics I'd say from 2017. There was less bombing forward but were tighter defensively. Perth really just continued with this. Maybe playing in Europe more than is usual means that zip in passing is there when back domestically and especially against such weak opposition like Athlone. FG has changed formation, jury is out on it for me still, he certainly has his ideas and considering everything he hasnt had too bad a start to a first senior job. We just look to be more comfortable again - if anything was an indication of where thing were at it was Sean Gannon pre cup semi and how he played in the semi final, chalk and cheese. Feck knows what happened to turn performances/motivation around. Maybe a new contract was offered!?Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
I'm pretty sure Stuey used the term 'handbags' during the Sligo v Derry game. If so, hopefully the powers that be at LOI player will act responsibly, suspend him, and force him to go to a re-education camp like this unlucky chap.Quote:
Originally Posted by D24Saint
https://www.lincolnshirelive.co.uk/n...ompson-4746612
is this the quietest build up to an FAI cup final since Jesus was a little lad?
I see JAck Byrne is off to join Mick McCarthy in Cyprus according to the Sun.
Wouldnt mind a job in cypruss myself. :)
On form we win today but if form was everything Dundalk would be going for their 5th or 6th cup in a row so who knows.
First goal vital.
Well at least there wasnt risk of a repeat of the ridiculous furore over Alan Mannus like last year. It is quiet, finding it hard to feel any anticipation! myself, though obviously Id hate losing the game.
I’d be all for traditional & patriotic things but facing the flag is tad old hat for a club game.
Either way - ye face the flag or the dignitaries eg President, no need for any fuss. Not that it needed it but it shows that Mannus wasnt deliberately being disrespectful last time.
And there's the disastrous defensive corner system...
World-class goalkeeping and defending there from Dundalk ...
Need to ring the changes, even mixing it up tactically. When did we start heading the ball out back in to the mixer rather than to wide areas, Pretty basic stuff really. I we persist Rovers will make it safe at some point. Maybe getting a pacier player running the line preferably beside McMillan for a bit or until he runs out of steam. Its all just so meh!
Well that could change things but against the run of play. Hopefully that will lift the energy levels and not to go back on the backfoot.
back to meh..
Odds on a Bolger red card if it goes to extra time?
What a turnaround though! McMillan the hero again.
Dundalk offered next to nothing up front, couldn't break down Rovers at all, until the first goal. Good response from Rovers who have played more of the football.
Amazing miss by Lopes there at the end.
Is Oduwa injured/suspended? I think he'd do well against a tiring defence.
Was trying to find the squad sheets as I agree, his pace and trickery could cause difficulty running at a defence. I think Kelly is out allright Hoare on now whose from is ropey - if he can dig out a bullet as v Cork, all is forgiven!Quote:
Originally Posted by osarusan
Dont want to call it as going to penos but its is a again gonna be decided by the the small margins even if Rovers have been the better side overall.
Is that the first Cup final hat-trick since 1990?
Edit - George Hamilton just confirmed it is. Miah Dennehy the only other player to do it in 73. John Ryan for Bray against St Francis in 1990 of course.
Blew it what a chance to become invincible .... well done Dundalk .... roll on next season
After an hour of that final, it was hard to imagine it would end up like that!
Rovers had much more control of the game up to McMillan poaching an equaliser, but it was much more open after the 5 minute goal fest. As Rovers tired, their defence started to cough up more chances. Dundalk finished much stronger even though you'd expect them to be more tired after playing midweek.
Super goal from McMillan to finish it.
Did'nt fancy them to do it but they just know how to win big games ,congratulations Dundalk and commiserations to Shamrock Rovers.
Didnt take our chances so cant complain.
Ill settle for the league this season :)
Already looking forward to next season as we head into an unknown length of one.
Tough to take as I thought we were the better side in normal time and it was a 2-1 kind of game. Fair play to dundalk though, they took their chances as they always do. Burke's miss was critical as was the absence of gary oneill and the injuries to joey and kavo not to mention jack not being at his levels. But dundalk have quality and it showed through, particularly in extra time. Seems like match fitness was better preparation than rest. I thought theyd tire but it was rovers legs that went. Makes next season even more interesting.
Great 60 minutes from Rovers, much the better team in that period. Dundalk dug in and kept in the game during that period. Rovers seemed to run out of steam while Dundalk got stronger and became more dangerous as the game went on. Jack Byrne, in particular, seemed to tire. Covid may have taken a lot out of him.
Burke will be kicking himself for being wasteful. Dundalk are awful from set pieces and will keep getting punished for it. Overall, Dundalk have more improvements to make than Rovers for next season.