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Is this the first time an Irish side has played v Azerbaijan? I have vauge memories of Shels / Pats playing somewhere close by in this region?
Dublin to Cyprus is 4,800K, Baku is 5k, almost sure Pats went further distance wise, if they did any Pats fans know off hand how they got there, was it by charter or two or three separate flights?
Dundalk to Baku is 4,385km, a new record for Dundalk, but Pats retain the League of Ireland record, at 5,028km to Karagandy. I think Aberdeen hold the European record with 5,515km to Almaty. It's only a matter of time before an Iceland-Kazakhstan tie breaks the record.
Dundalk to Tel-Aviv was 'just' 4,054km, nearly 1,500km more than Dundalk's previous record trip (to Malta)
(Dundalk have also gone 3747km to Larnaca and 3419km to St Petersburg recently)
APOEL of Cyprus or Sutjeska of Montenegro for Dundalk if they progress against Qarabag
https://twitter.com/DundalkFC/status...595673093?s=19
Slovan Bratislava of Slovakia or Feronikeli of Kosovo await the losers in ELQR3
Don't think Dundalk or Qarabag will fear either of those.Quote:
Originally Posted by patrickccfc
Bratislava is (usually) a handy Ryanair trip (plus the aerlingus/Ryanair flight to vienna). I tihnk theyve gone up alot now for August but still manageable. Its also a cheap/nice city to walk around etc. Meet some locals etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by patrickccfc
Nice one, if it is Bratisalva, good to know about Aer Lingus option to Vienna, looks to be just over an hour by train to Bratsislva.
Not the worst of draws really.
Wien away first if we get past Limassol.
The fact we were seeded for that draw given some of the unseeded teams shows how strong limassol are though so it'll be tough
Austria Vienna for Rovers, if they somehow get through, an extremely tough draw given that Rovers/Appollon were seeded. As they were drawn away first there's a good chance Rovers or Dundalk ties will be reversed as we'd both theoretically need Tallaght for the second leg. Otherwise you'd have the prospect of playing 50km apart in Vienna and Bratislava on the same night in the first leg.
If ones going to be reversed it'll be Dundalk so I'd guess they'll do everything to avoid that.Quote:
Originally Posted by seand
Uisce Beatha a good spot for pints. Ex Dundalk player living in Bratislava so I imagine he's conflicted as to whether he wants Dundalk to win or lose on Wednesday now!Quote:
Originally Posted by oriel
Did enjoy Zbrojnos and the Gremlin too for a later night
It depends which competition it is. Both our legs are away first in both competitions but if it’s the champions league then the Rovers game may be reversed as I think UEFA give priority to the champions league. It’ll be a nice problem to have if we do get past Qarabag. If we’re in the Europa then it may be us but I think they give priority to the higher ranked team. I don’t know if it has a bearing with Rovers being tenants in Tallaght. Hopefully rovers get through so this problem arises.Quote:
Originally Posted by RathfarnhamHoop
Rovers game won't be reversed, UEFA don't get a say in who changes they just say someone needs to switch its down to the clubs to sort it out. Even if they do give priority even UEFA wouldn't have the neck to tell a team that they need to move their home game because another team needs to borrow the ground. UEFA at most act as advisors as to who they think should switch but they don't just go and tell someone to switch. As you say hopefully it's a problem that comes up thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by Yossarian
Why? I think Dundalk would take priority as the higher ranked team regardless (that was the case when we played Jeunesse and they had to move days to accommodate another team borrowing their ground). If we're in the CL we'd probably play Tuesday so Rovers could play Thursday, if we're in the EL one of the games would be swtiched (possibly even just to Tuesday?), I suspect Rovers more likely to be bounced, but it depends on how the rest of the draw affects teams playing in Vienna, Bratislava and Kosovo as well as Dublin. Moot point anyway, we'll be in Cyprus ;-)Quote:
Originally Posted by RathfarnhamHoop
The team who's official home ground is the stadium and are anchor tenants in the stadium won't be moved to accommodate another team borrowing the stadium, that'd be some stretch to justify even for UEFAQuote:
Originally Posted by seand
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Originally Posted by RathfarnhamHoop
It would be an absolute hoot if this came to pass.
It has always been UEFA who make these calls and the precedent has been that the lower ranked team gets moved.
fly to georgia and get the train down over night. Georgian airways fly direct so you could land into gatwick and do that. Monday flight. other options are luton kutaisi and again overland to azerbaijanQuote:
Originally Posted by oriel
Sure Rovers only borrow the stadium from the council aswell.Quote:
Originally Posted by RathfarnhamHoop
I don't think UEFA give a flying one which team rents which communal stadium for domestic games more often. There's precedent that the higher ranked team takes priority, not that I'm bothered either way.Quote:
Originally Posted by RathfarnhamHoop
Being an anchor tenant is slightly different to renting but this is old ground and if people haven't got it by now they never willQuote:
Originally Posted by seand
Have you an email address for UEFA? You should let them know about the anchor tenant stuffQuote:
Originally Posted by RathfarnhamHoop
Anyway if it happens that we end up playing Slovan Bratislava (Slovakia) that week, we will need the flight seats into Vienna as well - so Rovers would have to shift
My apologies for being slipshod with the semantics of Rovers' tenancy. Teams who own their own stadiums have been shifted to accommodate higher ranked teams in the past, that's how UEFA roll. Stadium owners (or even anchor tenants) probably should get priority, but there's precedent that they don't.
It's gonna be a nightmare when we're both in the group phase
Team haven't been shifted from their own stadium so others can use that stadium though.Quote:
Originally Posted by seand
Hopefully that's a nightmare we have to endure
Yes they have. I already gave one example up thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by RathfarnhamHoop
An example? Where?Quote:
Originally Posted by seand
Maybe one of you would have to move to Thomond or the Aviva then.Quote:
Originally Posted by seand
Flixbus has a connection from Vienna Airport to Bratislava also. Yea its really handy, one hour and less than a tenner.Quote:
Originally Posted by oriel
Vienna airport is really easy to use once u walk out of Luggage claim etc the Train station is just below and the bus connections are all outside.
Usually Aerlingus - Vienna is the most expensive, then the Ryanair one and then the Bratislava Ryanair flight but its expensive at short notice esp in August notice regardless.
Dundalk at Jeunesse Esch, got moved to facilitate Fola EschQuote:
Originally Posted by RathfarnhamHoop
Back on topic, two reaonably good draws for Dundalk
I just googled it and it looks like there was a game in the same place (Esch) but the tie dundalk were in and the other tie both had their Luxembourg legs in different grounds. So it's comparable to Pats having to move their potential second round game but not comparable to the potential tallaght problemQuote:
Originally Posted by seand
I can completely understand why any Rovers fan would have an almost unhealthy fixation on their permanent home ground, rented, anchor tenants, leased, or whatever. But RH seand is right, the higher ranked competition and then club if in the same comp get first dibs as UEFA dont give a damn about anchor tenants etc, just that the games are held in an appropriate stadia and its the easiest way of making a decision and avoiding people having issue similar to yerself. Lets hope we end up getting the tangible and concrete evidence!! Either way fear not as we will be giving Tallaght Stadium back to SDCC after for your use! I am presuming they recieve any rental generated by our use of the ground, and probably at a higher cost per game than the rental Rovers pay?!
If Tallaght Stadium were ever to co-host another club I think RH would have a meltdown!
I imagine it would be up to the council and whatever aggrement they have with Rovers, if they tell dundalk the stadiums not available that night then theres nothing Uefa can do about it.
There is if it is to hold another match that is under UEFA jurisdiction. If it was say a concert that was booked you are right, they could say the stadium was unavailable on that particular night.
Uefa have no say in what the council do, the Rovers game would only be moved if Dundalk were playing in Dublin on the same night, if Tallaght is unavailable then unles dundalk use the Aviva the Rovers game would't be reversed.
Turner Cross is an option for the third round as well isn't it?
That would be a nice problem to face.Quote:
Originally Posted by seand
I suppose it was only a matter of time before SDCC and/or AGS were called in to it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Asterix
It's a hypothetical situation currently, although the contingency arrangements will be made by UEFA in conjunction with the FAI and the clubs in the event that it became a reality.
While I hope that it does not arise, it would nearly be worth it to witness the apoplectic outrage that a reversal of fixtures would trigger
Good point. Dundalk have an obligation to provide a suitable venue, the sdcc don't have an obligation to accommodate them on any date they wish.Quote:
Originally Posted by Asterix
Could Dundalk hypothetically use Windsor park for a European game? Its closer than Tallaght!
Lads who gives a flying ****, I hope we have this problem all the way to the finals :)
Isn't there an issue with using venues in a different jurisdiction?Quote:
Originally Posted by joey B
RathfarnhamHoop and Asterix for startersQuote:
Originally Posted by sbgawa