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Sorry, tets. I thought it would be kosher as I was discussing two players featured in the thread title, but it won't happen again, I swear.
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This moderation thing has really changed you tets. I miss the old Adam of a kinder gentler time. The Adam that threw himself on top of a lime thrown by Faroe Islands fans at us because you thought it was a hand grenade. The Adam who talked POSH off of that rooftop after the Henry hand of God. The Adam who gently told a tearful Charlie Darwin that Michael Jackson had died. The Adam who picked Stutts up off his feet and twirled him high in the air to the delight of all the guests at the 2010 Foot.ie Charity Christmas ball. The Adam that................
........the Adam that went to Crackbird?
This seems to be true, but I wouldn't have any problem with him playing for Ireland even if he felt that way. As long as he could make a worthwhile contribution on the pitch and improve us as a team, I'm not bothered.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
Fair enough, but international football isn't like club football to me. If somebody isn't Irish, they shouldn't be playing for Ireland.Quote:
Originally Posted by osarusan
Segment on Soccer Republic now with Clinton Morrison and other former internationals talking about Noble for Ireland.
McAteer claims he was asked to represent England a week before Jack called him up, but we were always his preference so he went with us. I'd never known that. How did he qualify again?
What's Clinton's opinion? He reminds me of Noble in terms of his desire to initially represent England before declaring for us.
McAteer's grandparents are Irish, I believe. I don't know who asked him to represent England (John something) but it must have been the senior team as he was 23 at the time Jack called him up.Quote:
Originally Posted by DannyInvincible
gastric, Clinton said it's understandable if you take a month or two over the decision, but Noble has been humming and hawing for two years now and he reckons the current squad members won't accept him if he does declare. Kilbane said anyone after U21 when they've gone through all the England youth teams, it's too late and Ireland shouldn't be your consolation prize.
Were they from the north? For some reason, I thought he had northern connections. Maybe Down?Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
Didn't catch the surname of the John either. I'm sure Balls.ie or someone will YouTube the segment.
Edit: The episode is on RTÉ Player now anyway: http://www.rte.ie/player/ie/show/10321894/
The segment on Noble begins at 38 minutes.
Not sure, to be honest. Google is telling me Derry but the only source is a message board.Quote:
Originally Posted by DannyInvincible
I know the name of the guy McAteer said but I'm just drawing a blank.
Kerr said it's the managers job to use the rules, Clinton said it's a no brainer and Stuart Byrne said it doesn't sit easy with him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
Yet he was critical of the FAI selecting northern players a few years back.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapAPony
Stuey Byrne.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapAPony
Seems to have gotten over his bitterness a bit alright.Quote:
Originally Posted by DannyInvincible
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/m...m-1572620.html
The day before Bolton played Oldham in the sixth round of the FA Cup, McAteer had a visitor. It was Jimmy Armfield, "with a message direct from Terry Venables" offering the midfielder a place in the England B squad. McAteer, stunned and delighted, accepted. But on the day of the match, who should pull up in the car park but Jack Charlton. Now there was the prospect of a full cap for the Republic of Ireland, for whom McAteer was also qualified through an Irish-born grandfather.
"It was a big decision, the biggest since when I left school," McAteer said. And when the difficult call rejecting England had to be made, it was Bruce Rioch, the Bolton manager, who picked up the phone. "I stayed out of Jimmy Armfield's way for a while, I can tell you," McAteer said. "Though funnily enough, I saw him a couple of weeks ago and he shook my hand and said `Well done'." With 12 caps to McAteer's name - it probably would have become 13 on Wednesday had he not been withdrawn from the squad to play England - how could Armfield have said otherwise?
Jimmy Armfield, thank you! I was thinking Arneson for some reason and all that brought up was Frank Arnesen. That's basically what McAteer said. He was called by Armfield and he was delighted with that but he was holding hope that Jack would ring him, and then when he was offered a "full" cap he jumped at it.Quote:
Originally Posted by joe_denilson
Apologies if this link was already posted, or feel free to switch to Eligibility thread?
(Maybe the two threads should be merged?)
http://www.irishpost.co.uk/sport/pre...s-ireland-miss
Wow, I didn't know that kid Grealish was eligible :)
Less about, er, Grealish.
:rolleyes:
Is the girl who wrote that graham burkes agent? How random is that idea that england would take himQuote:
Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy
Had a good chuckle at that one. She clearly couldn't conceive of the idea she is allowed make a list of only four.
terrible article - Grealish is the only one who is currently Irish and is any danger of changing allegiance. Crowley, Naughton and Bamford are currently English, and there's no chance of Burke getting a call up by Hodgson, or his successor when Burke would become eligible.
I haven't read all the posts on this thread, but am interested in the debate.
I cannot believe that even if everyone here wanted it to happen, that Mark Noble will make himself available for an Ireland call-up! The only reason I say this, is due to hearing him speak on Goals on Sunday, about his disappointment about not making the England senior squad, his pride at captaining the U21s.
Other debate has been given to O'Neill contacting Nathan Redmond, Harry Kane and Patrick Bamford, all currently playing with England U21. So I expect that an Ireland call-up will fall on deaf ears from them during Martins' time.
Contrast that with papers discussing Grealish and a switch to England; well my argument stands solid here too. Grealish was this week in Germany, representing Ireland U21s.
Yes, Noble has had an extended Premier league career, but I do not believe he improves our prospects, and take away his penalties, his goal-scoring exploits are fairly limited. And I am a West Ham fan!!
That's deadly. And no thanks or admiration. Well I thanked you Crosby. Stand up Sir!Quote:
Originally Posted by Crosby87
Crowley is English? When did that change, I mean didn't we all think on here he was Irish.Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
I hold less fear for Crowley than I do for Grealish. I'd put more money on Crowley playing for us than Grealish playing for us.
I assume tets means it in the sense that Crowley's presently registered with the English FA.
Good Old Clinton
http://www.rte.ie/sport/player/813/642534/
I didn't read that piece fully, but went back to have a look after seeing your post again. Burke's inclusion is bizarre. Burke can never become eligible to play for England. He has already been capped quite a few times by Ireland at under-age level. I would assume at least one of those appearances was in a competitive fixture. For him to become eligible to play for England, he would need to have possessed British citizenship at the time he was first capped competitively by us. Furthermore, the four British associations have an internal agreement in place (as permitted by FIFA's regulations) that any player qualifying to play for a British association on residence must have completed five years of education on the territory of the association concerned before the age of 18. Burke obviously fulfills neither of those criteria. Anyhow, as you say, it's highly unlikely England would ever be interested in him even if he was English.Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
Interesting interview in the context of this thread and one other thread!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by back of the net
O'Neill will not chase Noble which is fair enough! It's over to him now.
http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc...-30608282.html
Interesting. I'm still laughing at the first article:Quote:
Originally Posted by Deckydee
Cue the usuals who will throw up the quotes from August when he spoke about breaking into the England side.Quote:
Kane, 21, qualifies for Ireland through his father, appropriately named Pat.
He has an Irish father. He's quite entitled to ponder his international future. Is it so blasphemous that he consider earning a greater tally of caps for the country of his father than stick with the more risky option of the country of his birth?
He could turn out to earn 50+ or -10 caps for either.
Harry Kane's agent is doing great work if he gets him an England call-up out of that. We have only ourselves to blame for becoming pawns in these players' England hopes.
Its is his grandfather that is from Galway from what me knows
Kane name in the England U21 squad for the play off against Croatia - http://www.thefa.com/news/england/un...lay-off-021014
Aye, but he can still switch once until he gets a full competitive cap for them? Which will be amazed if he does...