UEFA Euro 2024 Qualifying Group B

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15/10/2023, 8:14 PM
pineapple stu

Wales beating Croatia is just kicking us while we're down

It's a result we need - puts Wales in second - but it looks like too little too late. Poland drawing against Moldova as it stands means Albania have qualified. So that and Slovakia/Luxembourg instead of Bosnia will be enough to do for us

Edit - actually, ignore that. We want Croatia and Wales to qualify. But this result would leave Turkey - who are easily beating Latvia - six points clear with two games to go (one game for Turkey). Turkey visit Wales next month so not all gone, but mostly gone. Croatia and Wales have to win all their games, and even then I think Croatia would come third on head-to-head
16/10/2023, 7:57 AM
backstothewall

https://twitter.com/EURO2024/status/...WX_--syPg&s=19

Does this mean we're officially out?
16/10/2023, 8:07 AM
pineapple stu

No. We can have two teams ranked below us in the Nations League qualify for the Euros. Turkey are one. I can't see why Albania haven't officially qualified yet, but it's a formality anyway - that's two. Then Bosnia may well be out of it after tonight, when they host Portugal. It doesn't matter if Slovakia or Luxembourg qualify instead - both were below us. That's the third strike and out

It's about 99.99% certain at this stage though
16/10/2023, 8:35 AM
CSAD

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Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Wales beating Croatia is just kicking us while we're down

It's a result we need - puts Wales in second - but it looks like too little too late. Poland drawing against Moldova as it stands means Albania have qualified. So that and Slovakia/Luxembourg instead of Bosnia will be enough to do for us

Edit - actually, ignore that. We want Croatia and Wales to qualify. But this result would leave Turkey - who are easily beating Latvia - six points clear with two games to go (one game for Turkey). Turkey visit Wales next month so not all gone, but mostly gone. Croatia and Wales have to win all their games, and even then I think Croatia would come third on head-to-head

Even with Belarus getting a draw against Switzerland you cant help but laugh, its almost like Switzerland are preparing to throw themselves under a bus just in case the Slovakia/Bosnia group goes our way to ensure Romania AND Israel qualify and as a result we still go out. Im not saying we deserve any luck at all but from the group we got drawn into and the results that have transpired around Europe it feels like literally everything that could possibly go against us has gone against us this campaign. It's like when we just need results to go as planned an upset occurs but then when we need an upset to go our way a results go as planned.

In Albania's case there is still a chance Moldova can qualify, shows just how awful a group that really is, which is keeping Albania from qualifying for the moment but its a formality as they only have to draw with the Faroe at home to secure qualification. Its irrelevant anyway as there is almost no chance Poland can get ahead of Albania unless there is some crazy 3 way tie.

We need Bosnia to get something from Portugal (ideally) and Slovakia/Luxembourg finishes in a draw (remember Luxembourg still have to play Lichtenstein so as far as I'm concerned they are ahead of Slovakia). In reality because of what I said about Bosnia will probably lose tonight and one of Slovakia/Luxembourg will win and its curtains and if by some miracle this group goes our way you can be sure Switzerland will lose/draw enough games to Romania/Israel which will put us out instead incase Romania dont get 2nd.
16/10/2023, 9:34 AM
pineapple stu

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Originally Posted by CSAD

In Albania's case there is still a chance Moldova can qualify, shows just how awful a group that really is, which is keeping Albania from qualifying for the moment but its a formality as they only have to draw with the Faroe at home to secure qualification. Its irrelevant anyway as there is almost no chance Poland can get ahead of Albania unless there is some crazy 3 way tie.

Ah - good spot. So yeah, the Czechs and Moldova could contrive to knock Albania out, but as you note, that's still no good to us. It's not possible for the Czechs and Poland to both qualify, so while Albania aren't qualified yet, this does still count as a second team below us in the Nations League to have qualified for the Euros directly.

One more will do it - so we need Bosnia to turn things around starting tonight (highly unlikely, especially with Slovakia playing Luxembourg as well so they can't both lose), Israel to pass Romania (Romania are stumbling, but Israel have four games in a month now)...and Holland to pass out Greece. So that's the anomaly that suddenly a defeat next month could be a good result.

Wins for Portugal and Slovakia this evening will formally end things.
16/10/2023, 4:42 PM
tetsujin1979

The last time we lost five qualifiers was for Euro 1972. We lost five of the six games in the group, with only a draw against Sweden in the opening game of the qualifiers preventing a whitewash
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_E...ifying_Group_6
19/10/2023, 10:18 AM
geysir

As it stands now the Israel team are bound by a state imposed travel ban. That leaves some big questions about their ability to fulfill the remaining 4 fixtures inside the alloted time (all 4 away fixtures?). There are already so many spanners in the works against qual for the play offs, is there room for another one?
Even if that 0.1% chance of qualifying transpired, Ireland would likely draw the short straw and be thrown into the League A path with an away fixture v Italy.
19/10/2023, 12:18 PM
EalingGreen

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Originally Posted by tetsujin1979

The last time we lost five qualifiers was for Euro 1972. We lost five of the six games in the group, with only a draw against Sweden in the opening game of the qualifiers preventing a whitewash
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_E...ifying_Group_6

Shocking Goal Difference of -14 (F3 A17)
19/10/2023, 12:30 PM
geysir

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Originally Posted by EalingGreen

Shocking Goal Difference of -14 (F3 A17)

Mainly due to 6 goals conceded v Austria away with Ireland fielding a LOI team and 4 goals v Austria at home due to Dunphy being selected at CH, subbed at ht.
19/10/2023, 4:48 PM
EalingGreen

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Originally Posted by geysir

Mainly due to 6 goals conceded v Austria away with Ireland fielding a LOI team and 4 goals v Austria at home due to Dunphy being selected at CH, subbed at ht.

Fair dues.

Though scoring 3 times in 6 games is a bit poor, too, esp since two were peno's.
19/10/2023, 8:43 PM
geysir

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Originally Posted by EalingGreen

Fair dues.

Though scoring 3 times in 6 games is a bit poor, too, esp since two were peno's.

It was 50 years ago!! I think even Owls Fan would struggle to remember.

but at least empowered with important facts from that bygone era, we have moved on from the ignominy of a "shocking goal difference" to just being "a bit poor".
16/11/2023, 9:28 PM
pineapple stu

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Originally Posted by backstothewall

https://twitter.com/EURO2024/status/...WX_--syPg&s=19

Does this mean we're officially out?

Not sure which result changed things this evening, but we're now officially looking for alternative summer holiday plans next summer. Even if we do manage to lose on Saturday
16/11/2023, 10:03 PM
Razors left peg

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Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Even if we do manage to lose on Saturday

It'll be difficult but Im sure we'll manage that :)
16/11/2023, 11:57 PM
elatedscum

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Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Not sure which result changed things this evening, but we're now officially looking for alternative summer holiday plans next summer. Even if we do manage to lose on Saturday

Slovakia beating Iceland was the nail in the coffin
17/11/2023, 6:46 AM
CSAD

F**k me those Israel & Slovakia groups really are Sh!t groups, Jesus Christ!
17/11/2023, 8:27 AM
zero

have a ticket (anf flights) booked for tomorrow's game but considering not going. i just feel the players are waiting for SK to be out the door.
17/11/2023, 8:29 AM
CSAD

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Originally Posted by zero

have a ticket (anf flights) booked for tomorrow's game but considering not going. i just feel the players are waiting for SK to be out the door.

McClean being called up alone should be reason not to go. Not good enough to make even the u21 squad yet here is getting into the senior squad. One of the reasons why I cant wait for this regime to end.
17/11/2023, 8:52 AM
pineapple stu

He was always getting called up for this window in fairness, with the NZ game being his send-off.
17/11/2023, 8:56 AM
CSAD

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Originally Posted by pineapple stu

He was always getting called up for this window in fairness, with the NZ game being his send-off.

He shouldn't get a send off, that should have been put to bed when he decided to play in League 2.
17/11/2023, 8:59 AM
seanfhear

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Originally Posted by CSAD

He shouldn't get a send off, that should have been put to bed when he decided to play in League 2.

Sure, what else are we doing at the moment ? We might as well have a send off.

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