completely agree with what you are saying. i was not on the positive side of the poll on this thread. However i am just hoping that he is given a fair crack of the whip.Quote:
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completely agree with what you are saying. i was not on the positive side of the poll on this thread. However i am just hoping that he is given a fair crack of the whip.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
All of which are legitimate and reasonable - despite the Heralds view that we're a shower of cranks who will scare El Tel off if we're not careful.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
He must believe himself that he can help us qualify for the World Cup finals. He is independently wealthy so I can't see money being his main motivation. All of our players are familiar to him and he will have an immediate plan of how he wants the team to play. We might have got a better manager but Venables is probably the best of those that applied for the job.
....That remain unemployed as the 'interview process' which started in August 1875 draws to a close.Quote:
Originally Posted by Noelys Guitar
Venables is now 12/1 on Betfair! Has he said to somebody he is not interested.
Venables is now 13/1 on Betfair. Something must have happened.
Yes, and he told his other mates to stick 10 grand on probably.Quote:
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ah feck, don't have access to betfair in work - deffo worth a few quid!
can someone sort me out for 50 euro at 12/1? I'm good for it...honest!
Agree with all you've said, except the emboldened part. Which, tbh, is a bit like saying the Pope probably doesn't bother praying these days, since he's already "independently holy"...;)Quote:
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From what I've read on here, Delaney's a cute hoor of the highest order - and if he annoints, sorry, appoints El Tel, then he'll need to be, since when it comes to money, Venners could outsmart Bertie Ahern's accountant! :eek:
Venables is back as bookies favourite.
By the looks of it the FAI are willing to offer him a 7 figure sum contract but this means he will have to take a pay cut of about €300K from his England job.
And that was a really taxing role.....all he had to do was look after McLaren's umbrella!;)Quote:
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But he doesn't have an England job!
My reading is that they want to offer it to Houllier but he won't / can't commit just yet and failing that they'll have little choice but to offer it to Venables.
By that stage he'll call all the shots and can dictate his own terms. Delaney will be powerless to object.
McDonnell in The Indo (mischievously) suggests that Venables wants Kevin Nolan on board, but McDonnell correctly points out that Nolan is actually ineligible.
By Daniel McDonnell
Thursday January 24 2008
DON GIVENS will today name the squad for Ireland's February 6 friendly with Brazil but the speed of response from Gerard Houllier will determine who is in charge for the Croke Park encounter.
Givens, who was in the dug-out for the 2-2 draw with Wales in November, is likely to continue in the position for the glamour meeting with the South Americans unless himself and his selection panel colleagues of Don Howe and Ray Houghton ratify a new man in the interim.
Houllier is mulling over the opportunity to take the Irish hotseat and should give his answer by the weekend, although the FAI's 10-man board of management would then have to give the all-clear to the financial outlay involved in backing the Frenchman.
The lengthy delay continues to frustrate with players Lee Carsley and Kevin Kilbane stating that they are in the dark about proceedings.
"Like the rest of the players, I'd like for it to be sorted sooner rather than later," said Carsley.
"We've an important game coming up in February which is one of those building towards the next campaign.
"So it's important we get someone in place as soon as we can. Clearly, anyone and everyone has been linked to the post.
"I only hear from my family in Ireland who is being linked because as players we're out of the loop. But they want to know what is going on as soon as I do.
Kilbane admitted that he is in a similar situation, stating that: "We don't know anything. We're just reading what everybody else is reading with a new name seeming to be coming up every week.
"But the panel appear to be going down the right channels and speaking to the right people so we will wait and see."
Both veterans had been part of a delegation that spoke to John Delaney prior to that game with Wales and one name that was mentioned at that juncture and still remains on the radar is that of Terry Venables. The long-time favourite has drifted in the betting and, while the popular theory is that he impressed in his interview, alternative sources suggest that the panel were far from enthused.
It has been reported since then that Venables had mentioned the capture of Bolton's Kevin Nolan as a priority although if that is true then it is misguided as the window by which the 25-year-old Liverpudlian could declare for Ireland has long since passed.
Allied with opposition that is understood to exist within the FAI, the chances of Venables landing the job look remote with Houllier ahead of him in the preferred pecking order. However, reports in the UK yesterday suggested that the ex-Spurs boss had cooled his interest in the Irish job due to grievances he had about the length of the contract on offer.
Issues of that nature are likely to be the main talking point today when Givens names his panel rather than the make-up of the party itself.
His squad is unlikely to be packed with surprises. Notable absentees will include defender Steve Finnan, who retired from the international game earlier this week, and midfielder Andy Reid who is currently on the long term injury list at Charlton.
- Daniel McDonnell
http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc...h-1272533.html
I have heard of the media campaign to get Venables the job. What about the media campaign to prevent Venners getting the job? McDonnel in the Indo. All of the Examiner.
Except Liam Mackey.Quote:
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In fairness these interviews with players are pointless. What do the reporters expect him to say, ''Na, i wouldnt like El Tel, think he's a crap manager only out for a quick buck'' He's gonna have to say that same spiel about every manager just in case he gets the job.
In what context did he "endorse" Venables? Was he asked to choose between Venables, Houllier or Coppell?
One of the biggest objections to Venables earlier in the process was the tide of player and pundit "endorsements" that were anything but. Doyle's was one of the worst and Stephen Hunt once said he'd like him on the basis that Nicky Shorey was in one England squad and said he was OK.
who does joe lapira want?
John Madden, I believe.Quote:
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well the fai can only get madden '94 i'm afraidQuote:
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Bummer. I hear the FAI Megadrive controller was lost in the move to abbotstown.Quote:
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if asked about houllier no doubt he would say the same.
and probably the same about all the candidates.
The interview was on RTE and Hughton was asked who would he like to see as Ireland manager. He said not sure but if it was to be Venables then he would be a good choice.Quote:
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As each preferred candidate bites the dust we look for reasons to be cheerful about Venables.
I see Duffer was hit with the usual questions about Venables by TV3 and said that he has received rave reviews from some of the lads at Newcaslte and players he has chatted too. He said he is heard he is a great coach and great with the players etc etc, cliche cliche cliche.
I watched that too. What is your point?Quote:
Originally Posted by NeilMcD
Duff heard Venables is an excellent coach. Is that not a good enough post in a 44 page thread. ;) That seems to be the opinion of many players and it's the only thing keeping me going with Venables back favourite again.
I dont have a point, I am just letting people know who may have not seen it. What is your point.
The media, given an opportunity, will always ask players in this situation what their opinons are of potential managers.
The players, to a man , will 99% of the time give the standard "Great manager, heard good things about him, couldnt be discounted, deserves respect, would be a good catch" blah blah blah.
How could they say anything else? They may think he's the biggest gimp on the planet, but he may well be their boss by the end of the week, and no-one wants to p!ss on their chips before a ball is kicked, and be made a sacrificial scapegoat in the media by the new "no nonsense" "gaffer".
These interviews are to be taken with a pinch of salt. They're just quote chasers from a media who are as much if not more in the dark about what the FAI are playing at as we are.
I'm amazed anyone cares.
Other than Roy Keane, I have seldom heard a player utter anything other than a banality and there are good reasons for that. See the trouble that erupts (e.g. in Keane's instance(s)), when they proffer an opinion on something. Imagine if Duff had said "Venables is useless and I don't want him as manager" and then Vegetables is appointed. Where would that leave Duffer other than with a lot of egg on his face and bridges to mend?
Keep the players out of such matters.
So no-marks like Alan Smith and Nickey Shorey get to endorse Venables for us.
On that point, from today's Independent: http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc...n-1277860.htmlQuote:
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Duff On Terry Venables?I've asked a few of the players, like Alan Smith, about him and he gave rave reviews. Steve Round, our assistant, was with him at England and said I'd love him as well. I've heard nothing but good reports so if he gets it, then it'd be brilliant.
I think if Venables got the job this is the team he would pick.
Given
S.Kelly R. Dunne J O'Shea
L. Carsley
Duff S. Reid A. Reid S.Hunt
R. Keane K. Doyle
im pretty sure i was informed he ditched the 352 and played a 442 with australiaQuote:
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Croatia away for England he was the man behind the 3 5 2 according to the rumour.Quote:
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Yeah thats true..more his 4 3 2 1 ...the famous xmas tree formation that he donned
that;s true, up until then the England team had a settled back 4. don't think they had conceded in a competitive game either. and then they lost.Quote:
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