Point taken - I assume refs are assigned to games based on their geographical location , perhaps a change in this would make a difference ?
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Point taken - I assume refs are assigned to games based on their geographical location , perhaps a change in this would make a difference ?
tough one to call .. i would agree with spudd that some refs may have a grudge against some clubs / players. not a lot can be done you can request to clare league not to have this ref again..?? i'm sure referees must talk to each other about players / clubs especially if they get a lot of abuse from certain teams / players so you could have a referee arriving on a sunday with his mind made up about certain clubs before match even starts . must add though its a tough thankless job being a referee and we all love to blame them for everything :ball:Quote:
Originally Posted by Spudd
Tough and thanks less maybe but alot of this is brought on by a biased attitude - if a game is reffed fairly any player / managment cannot have a reason to give out
Any bookies around giving odds on the cup or the league this season??
i don't honestly think it is that bad .. more a case of poor / bad refs rather than biased .. plus how many teams / players play by the rules 100 % now .. :ball::ball:Quote:
Originally Posted by Planners
look lads at the end of the day it is junior football, you wont have a bunch of Pierre Luigi Colina's doing the games. i think the standard of refs has improved over the last ten years. their is a few bad refs we all know that but i find they only get worse when players are moaning all game.
Newtown out of the cup!??:eek:
Who knocked them out?
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Originally Posted by el_nino84
rock rovers 1-0 just got result of clare league website :ball:
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Any results from the premier division?? Was at the Newmarket v Bunratty game (2-1 Newmarket), rats deserved a draw imo, they were misssing quite a few players this morning, they are deep in relegation battle right now and need a few wins quick to avoid the drop, as for Newmarket, not really impressed with them, they do the simple things well but are very direct in going long to the front men, front men are not that strong in the air and defenses will deal with it easily,
Avenue beat the Burren 2-0. But in all fairness they were very poor and Burren only had 8 men for 40 mins of the 2nd half after they lost the plot a bit. They had a real chance of gettin somethin today but 5 mins into 2nd half they got a free,their right-back put in a great fair tackle on an Avenue man after the whistle. After a bit of handbags from both teams the ref gave burren rightback a very harsh straight red.Burren players went mad at him for a few mins,he then sent off their keeper,one burren player went head to head wit the ref and wasnt booked then another pushed him in the back but he didnt know who did it so he sent off number 6 instead of 5. Avenue created very little after that and were quite poor.Ref bottled given burren a peno later on and avenue keeper made a decent save from a free. 2nd goal came in last kick
before anyonethinks im biased i spoke to burren an avenue guys bout game ystrday
pitch terrible no chance to play football, cows would have trouble standin up to graze, nothing much in first half avenue scored scrappy goal just before break
2nd half 1st burren guy sent off 2 footed tackle after whistle went ( ref said he was sent for headbutting but no one saw that!!!!
then 2nd guy went for pushin the ref in the back
3rd guy went for abusing the hell out of him
burren decided they wanted to walk off the field then,
10 mins later game restarted an burren enjoyed their best spell creating a few chances , avneu broke numerous times but over indulged in burrne penalty box an missed a few handy chances till last min they scored again
ref had a tough time,the 40 or so on burren line didnt help, sarcastically clapping every decision an making their feelings known,
thats it in a nut shell
3 horse race, no one else has a chance
as for Newmarket, not really impressed with them, they do the simple things well but are very direct in going long to the front men, front men are not that strong in the air and defenses will deal with it easily,[/QUOTE]
Couldnt agree more, Newmarket are fighting above there weight and direct football will get them no where against class "footballing" sides like Lifford(even though they beat them twice!!!)
As for there front men being dealt with easily by defenses - if you look at the table Newmarket have scored 24 goals (joint top with Avenue) and the majority of them have been scored by the small men up front that defences deal easily with:(
On another point I think its good for Clare soccer that the League is very competitive this year and I dont think anyone could rule Newtown out either.
Couldnt agree more, Newmarket are fighting above there weight and direct football will get them no where against class "footballing" sides like Lifford(even though they beat them twice!!!)Quote:
Originally Posted by guvnor
As for there front men being dealt with easily by defenses - if you look at the table Newmarket have scored 24 goals (joint top with Avenue) and the majority of them have been scored by the small men up front that defences deal easily with:(
On another point I think its good for Clare soccer that the League is very competitive this year and I dont think anyone could rule Newtown out either.[/quote]
Newmarkets front men have scored less than half their teams tally this season, in their 10 games played the front men have scored 5 each, i've watched them a few times this season and imo Newmarket are too easy to defend against!
have to disagree with you here platini.newmarket arent 'punchin above their weight' at all.come the end of the season they'll be there or thereabouts for the league.it looks to me that there a few teams 'punchin above their weight' in the premier alrite like kildysart,burren and bunratty.
id say you shud look at your own team(bunratty) first platini before you go ravin on about other teams not being able to play football and just using the long ball.as far as i can see ye love to use the long ball in bunratty,in fact there's one individual at the back who very rarely plays a pass,its always a big long punt up to one of the centre forwards which he did a lot on sunday too
heard the rineanna moher game was a cracker
Newmarkets front men have scored less than half their teams tally this season, in their 10 games played the front men have scored 5 each, i've watched them a few times this season and imo Newmarket are too easy to defend against![/QUOTE]
they must be doing something right if they are in the position they are
Think ur misreadin the posts studs, i never mentioned Newmarket were fightin above their weight, imo (right r wrong) the way they set out their stall is easily defend and this will show in the league postions at the end of the season.:cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by studsup
Interesting developments in Clare? What are the your views all?
From the start of the 2008/2009 season under Rule 38 of the Clare District Soccer League the third division will be replaced by a new Reserve League for all B teams.
Note: Rules for this Reserve League will be published before the next AGM.
From the start of the 2010/2011 season the Clare District Soccer League will be introducing a licensing system for entry into the Premier Division of the Clare League.
Note: Details will be published before the AGM.
So those this mean Lifford B Avenue B Bridge Utd B etc will all have to drop down a couple of divisions next season regardless of how well they may do? I can't see them doing that without a fight?
What are the advantages of this or who/what will benefit? if you look at the 3rd division already there is 8 b teams out of 12 so whats going to be the big difference?
the disadvantages that i can see, is the third division will end up an non competitive league. Sure someone will win a trophy at the end of the season but thats it, no promotion. No second or third place spots for promotion for the other teams to play for. So if one team is miles ahead in the league then you will see lots of walkovers and players turning to other sports imo.
Also theres a knock on effect for the second division where teams wont be able to get relegated so i think there could be a knock on for the competitiveness of that division as well.
Does anyone know why the league want this?
[QUOTE=old git;881193]so only b teams in reserve league ... what happens in first & 2nd division is it only going to be made up of A teams.. i think the clare league could loose a few clubs over this and probally a lot of players also ,,, a reserve league would only benefit the bigger clubs if they have a panel of 20 players they can name 15-16 for A TEAM and the remaining 4 players can then play that sunday with reserve team so they are geting regular football i would think a lot of lads playing b team football will not be to happy with this set up.:ball: surely league must pass this new rule with committe & clubs before they can bring it in :confused:
As a B team player myself in the 3rd division, im thinking wats the point in competing and trying to give 100% for the rest of the season if theres no chance in getting promoted, have to agree with and second offside01's points. wats everyone elses opinion?
Sorry, don't agree with you Hacker. In the Bridge we have two teams who train equally as hard as each other. There is no bad blood between teams and if a player wants to play A or B team football at the start of the year thats their decision to make.
From our point of view if a reserve league was introduced the panal of 20 commited players from the B team would in my opinion lose interest and the whole aim of increasing participation goes out the window.
Whats the value of a club like St Pats (no disrespect) promoting soccer by entering a 2nd side if they have to compete with Lifford /Avenue B who would be a match to some of our premier sides on their day?
In terms of this years leagues I think the timing of this announcement is questionable. As mentioned already, whats the point in Avenue B and Bridge B striving for promotion if they are going to thrown to the 3rd division next season anyway??
would throw this at you then, 4 - 6 lads at the beginning of the season sign 30 players, they maybe train together and each week a 1st and 2nd team are put up,it will keep lads on their toes and also give lads who play for the 2nds something to aim for, could see it working but agree timing not great:ball:Quote:
Originally Posted by Prem Rep!
To be honest it rarely happens that an A team survives relegation because their b team was in the division below. i know it stopped bridge b getting promoted last year when their a team got relegated, but thats the only one i can remember where that happened i stand to be corrected if i am wrong.
Talking to a couple of lads last nite who play for our B team who are pretty ****ed of with this situation, so much so that it is even suggested that they break away from the club because they want to play competitive football not in a league of effectively 20 friendly games a season.
Also Hacker if your team was in a situation where the leading team in the division were miles ahead of eveyone i doubt you would turn down second position. Everyone starts of the season with the ambition to win the league.
i still cant see this getting the go ahead from the clubs.
i can see some new clubs next year starting in division 3. if this rule comes into place i can see clubs like inch crusaders joined by townie rebels, Ballycasey UTD and newmarket village. Maybe the new 3rd division would suit some clubs but some might just make a break and try and make it on there own while staying affiliated(sp) to the home club.
i'm not sure about this yet. the league would have to make their position clear and what they hope to achieve by this move.
currently clubs that have teams in successive divisions are at least know of the ruling that they cannot be promoted to the same division. however players know this before the start of the season and play to try and win the division anyway. for me this is a better way of rising the standard of the premier. Invariably the better b team players come through to the 1st team and the better players that are playing in the lower divisions usually stand out, so it isn't long before they are looking to play or are asked to play in a higher division
I think if you look at the profile of most B teams you will find that they are made up of the following.
- past A team players who wish to continue playing at a competitive level
- youths players who if good enough will progress to the A teams and can play with either side while registered at youth level
The only thing that the current system does not facilitate is the movement of players from A team to B team without an official transfer.
This would be useful for players who are not getting a game with A team due to bad form or injury.
A solution to this would be to sign every player on the B team form which would allow them to play for either squad until they reach their quota of five games. Not the most honest approach but I expect that this will be the format if a reserve structure is introduced.
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Originally Posted by club-divided
I'd have to agree it will take the competitive edge away from the 3rd division. I'm also not sure it will improve standards of the league in general.The strongest b teams would probably be liffords and avenues.So if the a teams ever wanted to play these players they'd be picking players who are competing in the 3rd division instead of the 1st division.
**yawn**
Any shocks predicted for the weekend cup games? or are all premier teams expected to come through
Its very rich coming from a newtown man being bored. This is a very serious issue for the players and clubs involved. You don't hear all the rest of us complaining about constant talk of newtown on this thread for a couple of years and all ye have to show from it is a couple of mickey mouse area cups. Out of the cup this year, require a miracle in the league. I don't know but is anyone else bored of the newtown talk on this site and absolutely no delivery.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spudd
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Originally Posted by Young Lad
TBH i can't remember any post saying that Newtown would win anything, seriously i can't. Its just that Newtown have a few people that post on this site, if you don't like it then don't read it. There is an ignore button so use it.
Also, there are some users that post here and just have Newtown Avator, why, i don't know.;)
Are newtown any good or what.dont mean to pry but i havnt heard of them.I was flickin through the threads an said I'd ask as our a team are due to play them sunday.they were beaten by a 2nd division side last week an are mid table or so,apart from that all i know is that their pitch is good
Not a bad teamQuote:
Originally Posted by littleman
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Originally Posted by manalishi
Hahahahaha.... pot calling the kettle black i see...
Or maybe you know sumtin i dont know,Maybe the prodical sun's making his return?
Heard Mr.Kerley's been spotted sniffin around radharc na coille....
;)
[QUOTE=littleman;883565]Are newtown any good or what.dont mean to pry but i havnt heard of them.I was flickin through the threads an said I'd ask as our a team are due to play them sunday.they were beaten by a 2nd division side last week an are mid table or so,apart from that all i know is that their pitch is good[/QUOTE
would be one of the better teams in clare / excellent facailites and good big pitch /
really depends on the day if their players are all up for the game i'm sure they will be after getting beat in local cup last week :ball:
littleman
if ye are playing them in the munster cup then id suggest ur bullsh**tin when u say uve never heard of em. unless u just back from space
newtown are prob the most unpredictable team, talennted no doubt but who knows which team will turn up,, too often beaten in games they should win. no honours this yr i predict. (apart from a clare area thing!!)
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