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30/04/2009, 12:33 PM
Buller

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Originally Posted by jbyrne

keane v juve '99

Jesus, 10 years ago! And of all the people to do it!
30/04/2009, 12:46 PM
EastTerracer

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Originally Posted by Wolfie

Jim Beglin also according to Bill O'Herlihy's ear piece (on rte last night).

Yes, for those of you too young to remember Jim as anything other than George Hamilton's trusty sidekick, he scored his first goal for Liverpool in the European Cup semi-final against Panathanaikos in 1985. A towering header if I recall correctly.

Just a couple of years earlier he had won the league with Shamrock Rovers. He was a really good prospect for us and unfortunately had his career cut short by a bad injury.
30/04/2009, 12:50 PM
magnumpi

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Originally Posted by Stuttgart88

The paris chance was harder in fairness. He caught both right in the middle of his boot. Eddie Jordan was saying at HT on R5 Live that all he did was poke it in but I thought he hit it pretty sweetly. Damn him!

not only did he take it well, but showed good anticipation moving out to the back post position before it fell to him.

re: france 04 that was a harder chance imo, and i've been slagged for giving oshea stick on here before, but i wouldn't slag him for that miss.
30/04/2009, 12:57 PM
Lionel Ritchie

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Originally Posted by elroy

I think the chance in France came at him alot quicker than last night and it was further out.

without looking for it on youtube I'll agree it came at him quicker but if anything he was closer in to the back post and deadball line. He just got right under it.

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Originally Posted by Stuttgart88

The paris chance was harder in fairness. He caught both right in the middle of his boot. Eddie Jordan was saying at HT on R5 Live that all he did was poke it in but I thought he hit it pretty sweetly. Damn him!

Barthez was nowhere for it though -Almunia was on his feet for O'Sheas shot last night. I thought he hit it very well too ...and, through gritted teeth, I congratulate him for it.
30/04/2009, 2:27 PM
DeLorean

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Originally Posted by Metrostars

Have we ever had a scorer at this stage of the competition?

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Originally Posted by jbyrne

keane v juve '99

Keane also scored in the Semi Final against Bayer Leverkusen in 2002. It wasn't enough though as United went out on away goals.
30/04/2009, 2:45 PM
magnumpi

[quote=Lionel Ritchie;1152587]without looking for it on youtube I'll agree it came at him quicker but if anything he was closer in to the back post and deadball line. He just got right under it.[quote]

my memory of that night is hazy...good few beers and we were on the very back row behind the goal, but i think o'shea was further out, and didn't he pull it wide, not put it over?
30/04/2009, 2:51 PM
Stuttgart88

Paris

He hit it right in the meat, right footed and it flew past the post, curling back in all the time. If he'd been a few yards further out it was a goal.

I reckon he only missed by a few feet and in O'Shea's favour, he had only a fraction to react, the ball came at him really quickly. It could just as easily have gone in. Barthez was rooted.
30/04/2009, 3:02 PM
Drumcondra 69er

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Originally Posted by Stuttgart88

He hit it right in the meat, right footed and it flew past the post, curling back in all the time. If he'd been a few yards further out it was a goal.

I reckon he only missed by a few feet and in O'Shea's favour, he had only a fraction to react, the ball came at him really quickly. It could just as easily have gone in. Barthez was rooted.

Thought it was a bad miss myself, he had plenty of space and could have picked his spot, thought he paniced and pulled on it, had he connected like he did last night he'd have scored.
30/04/2009, 3:37 PM
EastTerracer

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Originally Posted by Metrostars

Have we ever had a scorer at this stage of the competition?

Apart from Keane and Beglin the legendary Stevie Heighway also scored in the semi-final for Liverpool in 1977.
30/04/2009, 4:56 PM
eirebhoy

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Originally Posted by jbyrne

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Originally Posted by Fergie's Son

Nasri wasn't exactly much of a threat but he played very well today.

eh... maybe thats down to osheas performance?

Nasri played in the centre. I think it was Diabi on the left to help out Gibbs against Ronaldo.
30/04/2009, 8:00 PM
Metrostars

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Originally Posted by jbyrne

keane v juve '99

Of course. I should have known that. "A real captain's goal".
30/04/2009, 8:28 PM
geysir

or the most overhyped goal of all time.
01/05/2009, 4:31 PM
Junior

It was a great goal in itself but more importantly it was what the goal and performance then led to, a further two goals and a final spot. Similar to Gerard in 05 against Milan I suppose......

geysir - synic till the end!!:D
01/05/2009, 4:42 PM
Stuttgart88

Gerrard against Milan still rankles with me. Smicer, Hamann & Alonso were all superb. Look at Milan's 3rd goal and how it came about - Gerrard playing a simple pass straight to a Milan defender. OK, gotta admit I really don't like him & my judgment is probably clouded.
01/05/2009, 4:43 PM
NeilMcD

Yeah Gerrard that night was one of the reasons thy were 3 nil down. Hamman coming on changed the game not Gerrard. To be fair to him he has been played out of position many times, as in people have played him in central midfield in a two. He thinks or at least thought this was his best position but it never has or never will be his best position. Liverpool have found his best position this season, and his other great season was the season before last when he played right side of midfield
06/05/2009, 3:23 PM
Junior

I have read numerous posts on how Gerards performance was 'not all that' and how he was at fault for a Milan goal or two. Ive never seen the game since the night it was on TV and I cant really recall the specifics but I dont think anyone can really dispute that his goal was the catalyst for the comeback. Perhaps it was the tactical genius of bringing Hamman in to the game or Alonso or any other reason, but the goal is what really kick started it (IMO).

Anyway back on topic.....O'Shea for a Final goal anyone?
06/05/2009, 3:24 PM
tetsujin1979

What about Darron Gibson for a spot on the bench?
06/05/2009, 4:06 PM
Stuttgart88

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Originally Posted by Junior

I have read numerous posts on how Gerards performance was 'not all that' and how he was at fault for a Milan goal or two. Ive never seen the game since the night it was on TV and I cant really recall the specifics but I dont think anyone can really dispute that his goal was the catalyst for the comeback. Perhaps it was the tactical genius of bringing Hamman in to the game or Alonso or any other reason, but the goal is what really kick started it (IMO).

Didn't Smicer get the first goal?
06/05/2009, 4:43 PM
DeLorean

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Originally Posted by Stuttgart88

Didn't Smicer get the first goal?

No Stevie G's header was first, followed closely by the Smicer/Dida goal-whoever you deem more responsible for it and finally Alonso's rebound penalty.
06/05/2009, 4:58 PM
Junior

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Originally Posted by tetsujin1979

What about Darron Gibson for a spot on the bench?

I did think about that when I was writing my post but thought no, you're taking that too far:D

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Originally Posted by Stuttgart88

Didn't Smicer get the first goal?

You really dont like Gerard do you:D:D
06/05/2009, 5:14 PM
Stuttgart88

I stand corrected!
17/05/2009, 8:18 PM
shakermaker1982

John O'Shea 4 league titles vs Gerrard 0 :)

Congratulations to John on winning his fourth league title. 52 appearances in total for the season and I'm sure he'll start in Rome. I hope next season turns out even better with him trotting out in green over in South Africa.
20/05/2009, 9:36 AM
jbyrne

quote from alex ferguson on john o'shea. great season for him...

"Ferguson also revealed utility man John O'Shea will start next week's final.

The Republic of Ireland international has filled in at right-back because of injuries to Wes Brown and Gary Neville and the United manager boss said he was keen to reward the 28-year-old's unstinting service.

'He can play anywhere for me: all along the back four, midfield - he's even played in goal for a short period - and because of injuries to Gary and Wes he's been a permanent fixture,' said Ferguson.

'He takes his place in Rome because he deserves it, because he is ahead of everyone now.

'He is a fantastic, top professional.'"
20/05/2009, 9:45 AM
gustavo

Have to say I'm delighed for O'Shea , takes a lot of abuse from his countrymen but has come out on top now first choice for club and country and long may it continue
20/05/2009, 9:57 AM
Stuttgart88

Hear hear, delighted for O'Shea.

Now come on Barcelona :)
20/05/2009, 11:58 AM
NeilMcD

I always go for the team with an Irishman in a European Final.
20/05/2009, 12:53 PM
Stuttgart88

yeah, I can see that. I'd look at a JOS winners medal as a silver lining to the dark cloud that another United win would represent to me!
20/05/2009, 1:00 PM
Wolfie

O'Shea deserves a lot of credit and is playing as consistently and to as high a standard as ever before.

I'd be the first to admit that I've been among his detractors in the past but credit when it is due.
21/05/2009, 11:41 AM
as_i_say

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Originally Posted by gustavo

Have to say I'm delighed for O'Shea , takes a lot of abuse from his countrymen but has come out on top now first choice for club and country and long may it continue

In fairness any abuse he's been at the end of up until last season, say, has been well deserved as the majority of caps for us have been displays of laziness and ineptitude however he's been the outstanding player of the trap era so far so fair play to him for turning it around.
21/05/2009, 12:45 PM
elroy

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Originally Posted by as_i_say

In fairness any abuse he's been at the end of up until last season, say, has been well deserved as the majority of caps for us have been displays of laziness and ineptitude however he's been the outstanding player of the trap era so far so fair play to him for turning it around.

IMO JOSH's style of play has more to do with it than laziness and ineptitude. He is quite a laid back unaggressive player and can give than impression sometimes. There is no doubt regular football has greatly improved him this year and his performances for us have been very good.
26/05/2009, 9:23 AM
as_i_say

Nice article in todays indo about his progress. Its one of the few times i'd have agreed with keane when he said he was a pampered lazy footballer or whatever the exact words were

http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc...s-1750505.html
26/05/2009, 9:38 AM
NeilMcD

Did Keane really say that about O Shea, when?
26/05/2009, 9:46 AM
as_i_say

Dunno-mentions it in the article and he definitely did bad mouth OShea a while ago but at the time he did need a right kick up the @rse. Had lost his way at united and was appaling for us in general so would have be loathed to agree with any of keanes rantings but...
26/05/2009, 11:17 AM
paul_oshea

It was the thing on MUTV if I remember correctly, mentioned fletcher as well.
26/05/2009, 12:09 PM
shakermaker1982

Ferdinand got a bit of abuse as well. Boro gave United a bit of a tonking and Keane spoke out on MUTV. Keane/Fergie's relationship went downhill from there.
26/05/2009, 12:29 PM
paul_oshea

The sad and ironic thing is, over time since keane made those comments, ferdinand and oshea and fletcher to a lesser extent have been as solid for UTD as could be expected. So although the fall-out only effected Keane, it benefited UTD greatly, something I would say is lost on most UTD supporters and many others too.
26/05/2009, 1:16 PM
NeilMcD

Ahh but there was no reliable reporting of what actually was said on that.
26/05/2009, 7:21 PM
Noelys Guitar

It is great to see O'Shea deservedly playing in the Champions League final. I thought he was outstanding against Italy. He is back into that rare group of players who seem to have all the time in the world on the ball without getting caught in possesion. I have a feeling that Trap has helped O'Shea discover his best form again for both club and country.
27/05/2009, 8:41 PM
paul_oshea

was the second his fault? im thinking it was bad communication between the two as oshea was trying to cover whoever was behind him at the time, however generally that area is covered by the right back.

UTD never looked at the races tonight, thats what has made it so annoying.
27/05/2009, 8:44 PM
richieos

i thought o'shea was the only solid united defender tonight, did his job against henry and hardly gave him a sniff, rio and vidic werent at the races, second goal cant be blamed on o'shea

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