Because this is an Irish football forum. I couldn't give a toss what Billy Gilmore or whoever did or didn't do!
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Because this is an Irish football forum. I couldn't give a toss what Billy Gilmore or whoever did or didn't do!
So you use an Irish supporters discussion forum to isolate and focus blame on a 19 year old Irish player where a manager & entire squad have turned European form into relegation form. Classy stuff there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eirambler
You did get the " feel " that De Zerbi would be on his way at the end of the season ~ ~ Interesting how it all works out at Brighton this summer and next season and for the Irish players there.
Yeah, that's exactly what I did. When I said on a thread specifically about Evan Ferguson that his run of poor form in front of goal and misfortune with injury didn't help Brighton's season as it went on, clearly I was "using an Irish supporters discussion forum to isolate and focus blame on a 19 year old Irish player where a manager & entire squad have turned European form into relegation form." Jesus wept.Quote:
Originally Posted by CraftyToePoke
I actually think that Ferguson could be a big reason that Di Zerbi has been moved on. Who's more important to the owners, a manager or an asset that showed signs that he could be worth 100 million quid to them. Ferguson didn't perform well in 2nd half of the season and maybe the manager wasn't getting the best out of him. From a business point of view that's a big saleable asset that is devalued and the owners might think a different manager could do better with the kid
Brighton's season degenerated into a team that wasn't scoring nearly enough goals while conceding almost every game they played. Mitoma was a huge loss. This summer will be very interesting.Quote:
Originally Posted by seanfhear
Its been pretty clear for months De Zerbi is a bit of an ar se biscuit of a human and I wouldn't be at all surprised if that was a far from ideal environment he created for Fergusons development & for all the players, time will tell. Ferguson also wrote off his season prematurely after having tried to play through an injury for some time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eirambler
But skip all that Eirambler and find a weird angle to attack Ferguson for not having saved yer mans job for him. Great stuff.
Please stop digging.
Attack the post CTP, not the poster
When you want to be a top 10 PL side and Danny Welbeck is you're starting CF then you know you're in trouble, Brighton have totally made the right call.
Maybe I'm a biased Ireland supporter (I am) but honestly the environment became so bad for Ferguson to thrive. A heatmap would show Brighton and their shuffling of the ball in and around the centre circle all game long. The amount of backwards and sideways passes Dunk and Gilmour were engaging in was mad. I think Dunk was and may still be up the top of successful passes listing in the league. The style of play allied with the man management of Ferguson which, from the outside looking in, seemed weird would be enough for me to conclude this is good for Ferguson.
I agree Ole. I think DeZerbi is a bit of a spoofer as I’ve pointed out on here a few times. His squad management in general is really haphazard and his in game management seems almost unsettling. Although I watch them for Ferguson, I see the impacts of his approach applied way beyond just him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Olé Olé
Let's hope Brighton get a good manager ~ For the sake of the Irish players there.
McKenna will be high on their shortlist I'd say. Looking less and less likely that he'll still be at Ipswich next season. You'd fear for Ipswich in the Premier League without him.
Even with McKenna ~ The premier league would be a tough assignment.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eirambler
And yet Wellbeck is the second choice striker at the club, behind Joao Pedro. Puts Ferguson's place in the team in perspective, doesn't it?Quote:
Originally Posted by CSAD
Might be Nice's Francesco FarioliQuote:
Originally Posted by seanfhear
OGC Nice establish shortlist to replace Brighton and Ajax target Francesco Farioli - Get French Football News (getfootballnewsfrance.com)
He's being linked with a £50 million move to Manchester United.
Can't see Brighton selling him for £50m - they know his potential and that he could be worth double that if he hits the ground running this season.Quote:
Originally Posted by Colbert Report
Also doubt United have £50M to spend unless Brighton are willing to let them pay in installments. I'd say they're on the edge of the ffp fence.
United could afford him right now, but that money is currently set aside for a midfielder. Been listening to quite a few podcasts on how it works and its complicated to say the least. I think the sale of Wan Bisaka freed up the amortization needed for De Ligt and Mazraoui but if they wanted to sign a midfielder and Ferguson they'd probably have to sell McTomminay as that would be all profit for the PSR rules.... so its doable if they really want himQuote:
Originally Posted by JR89
They already have two players out injured before the new season even starts, I can't see them getting another injured player in
Yeah I don't think it will happen, but I think it is financially possible for themQuote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
Linked with a loan move to Brentford. Bit out of the blue. If it gets him regular Premier League starts again, then it can't be too bad a thing
https://m.independent.ie/sport/socce...477185851.html
"100million player" to being on loan?Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
I mean what is going on, if this is right. Surely Brighton need him this season
It means neither Brighton or Brentford really want him if its true.Quote:
Originally Posted by Diggs246
Which, from where he was a year ago, and where Pineappler & I will have to disagree, is all round bad.
This can't be true, I know we're deluded on here but hopefully this story just goes away.
I don't think it would be a bad thing necessarily. Brentford will be short if Toney goes and will need to fill the gap at least until January. Brighton have made excellent signings up front to be fair to them and probably have one more than they need right now. Ferguson needs more regular football than he'll maybe get at Brighton in the next few months. I can see how it could make sense for everyone.
Yeah, that's my view of it alright. I don't mind too much who he plays for so long as he's getting games (and not dropping a division of course).
Certainly it's not what you'd have seen when he was banging in a hat-trick against Newcastle 12 months ago. But it gives him a chance to prove he's an option for Brighton - or a comparable team.
All if it goes through of course. Just a rumour for now.
I could see it happen. Brighton have some other excellent young players on loan (Barco and Buonanotte).
I think Brighton have started the season with a 4-2-3-1:
Wellbeck up top, Mitoma and Minteh on the wings. And Joao Pedro just behind Wellbeck.
You’ve got Adingra who’s another excellent winger. You’ve got Rutter who they’ve just bought for £40m who can play in any of the 4 attacking positions. You’ve got Matt O’Riley who is signing from Celtic for £25m and if he gets into the team will probably push Joao Pedro higher up the pitch. Then finally you’ve got Enciso who’s another incredibly promising attacking player.
Right now, it’s working really well with Wellbeck (2), Mitoma, Adinga and Pedro all scoring so far.
Personally if I was picking my Brighton team, I’d have Ferguson leading the line - but they’ve basically got 9 players for 4 positions - so maybe they think he needs the regular game time after a disrupted season.
Meanwhile, Brentford are desperate to offload Toney with a year left on his contract. They envisaged Igor Thiago being his replacement but a knee injury in preseason ruled him out till January. They’ve still other good attackers there: Wissa, Mbeumo, Schade and Carvalho. But I think they’re definitely in need of a quality striker till January, so maybe it’s the best of both worlds.
Evan replaces Ivan Toney for 3 months and then comes back to Brighton as first choice either in January or June
I think Ferguson is a little bit under the radar at the moment. He got injured in that Newcastle game where he got the hattrick and he was never right afterwards. The class he showed before that was at a higher level than anything I've seen from Hojlund yet, for example. The layoff he's had shows how seriously injured he was last season.
I fully expect Ferguson to be brilliant this season once he gets back. I'll be very surprised if Brentford manage to grab him, but if they do I still think they'll make a massive profit on him within a couple of years
I can’t imagine Brighton allowing anything other than a loan at least this season. If he were to go to Brentford or Southampton or wherever on loan and really struggle - then I could see them cutting ties for a decent fee.
But right now, he’s still a 20 goal season from being back to that £100m valuation considering his age and ability.
For me, the only issue is how his pace holds up when it comes to injuries and natural bulking up. At 16, he looked like he might become that Haaland type big blocky speed. Didn’t quite happen even though he did get quicker from 14-17. And he’s not slow but he’s a tick shy of being quick. However, if he loses a yard of pace early in his career the pathway to becoming an elite striker is a lot harder.
As someone said to me earlier.... this is a big season ahead for Ferguson, bigger than it really should have been
I can't see Brighton loaning out someone that 1) is still working his way back to fitness and 2) has just come off a season impacted by injuries.
Ferguson is going nowhere - once he is fit again he will be a key player for Brighton
Hes in the Brighton squad for the EFL Cup game tonight
Good that he's back just in time for the international break.
"Catches the eye" is a bizarre phrase! As if he's done something sat in the treatment room the last five months that he didn't do when becoming one of the youngest players ever to score a Premier League hat-trick.
Couple more twists and turns left in this transfer window I think - not necessarily for Ferguson, but we've a few players looking for moves yet.
Lads, it's the last few days of the transfer window and the rags have to fill the back pages. Take a chill pill. Happens every season. Crazy rumours that have no basis in reality.