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The start of a badly needed culling of the squad in Cork. It could be a bit on the expensive side if players contracts need paying up but might be whats needed in the longer term to get things back in order and pressure off the playing budget.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shearer
The McDermott move seems a bit strange given how highly he touted he was not too long ago. Has the injury he suffered had that much of a lasting effect?
First time he played at Inchicore I thought the announcer had said "Deadly Buzz" 😀 (Insert Junkies joke here !)Quote:
Originally Posted by Shearer
Galway United have signed Jack Lynch until the end of the season. 21 year old defender, son of Tommy Lynch, that has been playing Junior football with Regional United in Limerick but is probably better known to Waterford fans in League of Ireland circles anyway, made 10 or so appearances for them in 2017 in their First Division winning season. Suppose he was only 19 then.
Reached the FAI Junior Cup semi final with Regional this year, beating Sheriff but they got thrown out because one of their players didn't receive international clearance. Any Limerick or Waterford fans got an opinion on him?
https://www.the42.ie/cummins-could-l...88876-Jun2019/
Would be perfect for Pats with the 'style' of football we play. A big improvement on Gary Shaw, hopefully we're in for him.
I'll miss him if hes gone but would be good to get him off the wage budget. Its crazy how far we've fallen so fast.Quote:
Originally Posted by PartySaint
its crazy the amount of players ye have used so far this season and not midway!Quote:
Originally Posted by El-Pietro
Cummins must be on some money if they are trying to offload him, hes done ok for Cork, but they probably expected a lot better, and certainly more goals.
Amazing to think at the start of 2018 it was suggested by some whoever scores the most between him and Hoban would decide the league.
However it is indeed crazy how far Cork have fallen behind, I had thoughts they would put on a push at some point and challenge for the top 4, but you don’t get that impression now, mid table would seem to be their limits. It’s just the speed of the decline that caught everyone out, and it can’t be too optimistic about next season either, finances will determine that and a nucleus of 3 decent players could change things, but will they spend money I wonder, or will there be further cut backs given euro monies next season might be unlikely.
That's remarkably generousQuote:
Originally Posted by oriel
The gap to 4th (and probable Europa spot) is still only 7 points. The fact that there are 4 other teams to out-perform to get there is not insurmountable either if they can get a run going. The problem is that despite a modest "bounce" under JC2, there is no real sign of this happening to far.Quote:
Originally Posted by oriel
If there is no Euro money next season and with the obvious deteriorating financial picture , the immediate outlook is poor especially with so many players out of contract.
He may be the hatstand Rovers are after. Bohs would create plenty of chances for him and Pats fans think he would fit in to their style whatever that is at the moment, so I think Cork might be successful in offloading him. If reducing the wage bill is the main objective I doubt there will be too many signings unless they are from local junior clubs ala Mark O'Sullivan.
Its not a great sign if Cork are trying to get rid of their only striker. Do they think Sheppard is going to play up there week in week out?
I wonder if this is a fake new story.
Plenty of games Cummins hasn't started. It's just not working out for him. I'd say most would rather a young lad up there and the cash saved.Quote:
Originally Posted by White Horse
Can't agree - Cummins still has 4 goals this season - if he managed 10 in the league and a goal in europe he would be value to us. I can't see the logic of letting him go.Quote:
Originally Posted by micls
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Originally Posted by micls
If he is out of contract at the end of the season there is probably modest financial risk in retaining him in the hope that he will get some vital goals for Cork that could trigger a European push (the current 7 point gap to 4th place is achievable).Quote:
Originally Posted by Real ale Madrid
I can't see anything in the story that Rovers will sign him. While they are clearly in need of a hat stand/centre forward, Dan Carr is a more obvious choice to play there. Even the erratic Rovers management are hardly likely to offer an 18 month deal for Cummins and there is little motivation for him to move for a 4 month contract
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I saw in the Indo Rovers had signed Farrugia from UCD? Still out injured?
Still injured, not signed but agreed to sign according to the IndoQuote:
Originally Posted by Dalymountrower
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Highly rated UCD winger Neil Farrugia has turned down the possibility of a move to England and agreed to join Shamrock Rovers.
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He is expected to formally sign an 18-month deal with the Hoops, but there are no plans to insert a clause that would facilitate a quick exit at the 12-month point.
https://www.independent.ie/sport/soc...-38236412.htmlQuote:
Bohemians also tried to bring in the left-sided player, with an understanding that they would not stand in his way if the right offer came in.
His UCD colleague Gary O'Neill will also be joining the title-chasing Tallaght side as Stephen Bradley looks to strengthen his squad. The long-serving midfielder has finished his degree at Belfield.
The striker thing at rovers is difficult, greene has scored 6 goals from play which puts him 1 behind Duffy, drinan and Dinny for the year, a lot of rovers supporters would say he is up there with jack Byrne for poty creating chances for others and getting plenty of assists but he does miss lots of chances no question.
Is Cummins better overall ??
Not a huge fan of Cummins but would rate him a lot higher than Greene. Given the creativity at Shams the number of goals scored by Greene is very mediocre.Quote:
Originally Posted by sbgawa
The question for Shams is, is it worth spending another wedge on Cummins ? Second place pretty much nailed on and unless they beat Dundalk next week I think that’s as good as it will get. He’s not young so little chance of sell on value. While spending unnecessarily seems acceptable at Tallaght, it still seems a waste. Had they signed him at the start of the season he may have made a big difference but now I’m not so sure.
Rovers already have a hatstand but, given Bradley's recruiting policy in midfield, he may well be after another hatstand to stand in when our other hatstand can't stand any other hats.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
We've got centre halves with more goals. And goals aside his overall contribution tends to be minimal. Not at all through lack of effort, his works hard, but his lack of pace and the lack of support coming in with him make him generally ineffective. He doesn't get enough breaking support from midfield and not enough high quality crosses to really see his strengths. I actually think he could do well at Rovers with their midfield and style.Quote:
Originally Posted by Real ale Madrid
But mostly it's outlay vs return. He's one of our most highly paid, and I don't think that's justified with our current financial situation
Conor Ellis has left Limerick. Would be a decent get for one of the promotion chasing FD teams, or even a lower PD one.
Andy Boyle back at Dundalk from July 1st
DundalkSport video interviewQuote:
Originally Posted by patrickccfc
https://dundalksport.ie/video-dundal...k-6e2a2e740f82
Sadly, no we don't.Quote:
Originally Posted by micls
Can't agree with the financial outlay situation either - no-one is going to pay all of his wages in any case : all we potentially save is say €500 (guess) per week for 6 months - thats 13k off a wage bill maximum. Who is going to come in (thats available ) and do a better job than Cummins for that sort of money. Again if Cummins gets a goal in Europe and 6 more goals in the league - if we can sneak 4th and get into Europe then he will be worth every penny. Getting rid of him looks penny wise and Pound foolish to me. Not to mind the signal it sends to the rest of the club.
Agree re. Cummins. He may have turned out to be a poor man's Hoban but who are Cork get who is better for the few quid they can save on the wage bill. The move only makes sense if Cork are in dire straits and have written off the rest of the season.
On a more positive note, it's great to have Andy Boyle back at Dundalk. If we want to get better, players of Andy's quality are hard to come by and have to be snapped up.
We badly need a finisher but I don’t know if he’d be willing to travel.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeverFeltBetter
Izzy Akinade left Waterford,are Waterford cutting back because they're not getting relegated and probably not Europe?
Back to bohs being the early rumour. Sincerely hope he plays for no one else in this league.
They're cutting back cause I imagine they have a giant 240k hole in their budget from lost Europa revenue...Quote:
Originally Posted by joey B
Reads like he was kicked out of the country
https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2019...es-swift-exit/
Certainly looks that way, unusual RTE never mention <Mod Snip - folks be careful around referring to the legal history here, inaccurate stuff could land foot.ie in trouble>Quote:
Originally Posted by Nah Nah Nah Nah
Those are some enormous ifs. Yes, if he got us through Europe and 4th place in the league he'd be worth the money. It seems highly speculative and unlikely to see that happening though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Real ale Madrid
I don't think there's any suggestion we would let him go and keep paying his wages. If he's going to Rovers for example it would be a move. In that situation, wed be saving a lot more than 500 a week.
Can we replace him? With how he's playing currently and has been all season, it really wouldn't take much. But I'd imagine the most likely is that shep would go up top. Better? No. Worse? Questionable. Worth the money difference, possibly.
I certainly wouldn't be overly concerned to lose him. Genuinely don't think we can get much worse. Which isn't something you'd expect to be saying about your highest earner. I'd imagine many people feel similar.
Hardly an enormous if to think he might get 6 more league goals this season, he has 4 goals in 12 starts so far (5 sub) - there is still 15 games to go and he did score the last day. People are too quick to write him off - our problems lie deeper on the field.Quote:
Originally Posted by micls
Gary O'Neill, Neil Farrugia and Graham Cummins to Shamrock Rovers.
Joël Coustrain to Cork City.
Jamie Hollywood leaves Longford Town.
Connor Ellis leaves Limerick.
I've binned a page and a half of stuff that's pretty grey on the legal front, plus a link to a site that looks like it's run by lunatics. (Lunatics with noble intent I'm sure, but lunatics nonetheless.) Please keep it to football, and don't post that link again.
I didn't believe the Cummins one at first but it seems to be sticking. Not sure what to think of it. Obviously he's a good player and knows where the goal is but can't figure out how he'd fit into our team, and we'd presumably be paying him to live up here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shearer
If thats true its two great signings in Gary o Neill and niall farrugia. The Cummins one makes sense too as Aaron greene is missing too many chances but at the same time brings a huge amount to the game in terms of linking play and assists so Cummins will need to score regularly to justify his place.
Cummings would be a great fit for Rovers and regarding his lack of goals, give him an alrite wage but whack a decent goal bonus onto it and then surely it's win win for Rovers. Pity to see the UCD team being ripped apart again. If Sloggett and O'Connor stayed for the prem campaign it could have been a different story but thats every season so they are well used to it i suppose!
If anything, the UCD squad hasn't been ripped apart enough.
I'm sure Harps' team of wrestlers will fix that next week :)