Sporting Fingal Gone Belly Up

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13/01/2011, 12:51 PM
pineapple stu

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Originally Posted by Dillonman

Well then perhaps its the lure of Europe that is persuading Bolger to sign with Fingal.

It seems not, again from what Foster said -

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Originally Posted by Foster

However, his move boils down to finances, pure and simple

So either it's entirely about the wages or Foster's talking rubbish.
13/01/2011, 12:55 PM
Dillonman

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Originally Posted by pineapple stu

It seems not, again from what Foster said -

So either it's entirely about the wages or Foster's talking rubbish.

I did say "perhaps" Stu!
13/01/2011, 12:58 PM
pineapple stu

I know. And there doesn't seem to be any perhaps about it. :)
13/01/2011, 1:35 PM
redobit

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Originally Posted by redobit

Are Fingal in the Red or Black at the moment?

The Lep;
Its white with a bit of green with the away strip being black.

Good one.
I'll take it that ye have made a loss in each of your last 2 seasons so.
13/01/2011, 1:56 PM
Louth4sam

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Originally Posted by Spudulika

The Democrat, much as I used to like it, is famous for a paper of no record (I'd a nasty experience in this respect back in 2000). This is very disingenuous by Ian Foster, and lies as well. First he had his facts wrong, it was only 8 or 9 players from last season left on contract. Everything is just whinge to get sacked and a big pay off.

I don't know where you got the idea that he is moaning to get sacked, who else would employ him? I think the simple fact is he's a moany git but as long as the performances are ok Dundalk fans will tolerate it. A few bad performances or losses and the shed will be very quick to turn on him
13/01/2011, 3:54 PM
Spudulika

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Originally Posted by Louth4sam

I don't know where you got the idea that he is moaning to get sacked, who else would employ him? I think the simple fact is he's a moany git but as long as the performances are ok Dundalk fans will tolerate it. A few bad performances or losses and the shed will be very quick to turn on him

I should have said, I reckon....... as a preface. I think he's a good coach, a clever guy, and decent. He's not a patch on Lilywhite bosses of the past, few are, though I think he was better than the main rival option I heard mentioned time and again by some folks in town. After last year I didn't think he'd last the season, I don't know if he'll be in the club this time next year.
13/01/2011, 4:15 PM
Lim till i die

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Originally Posted by redobit

Good one.
I'll take it that ye have made a loss in each of your last 2 seasons so.

A LoI club made a loss?!

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13/01/2011, 5:09 PM
Dillonman

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Originally Posted by Spudulika

I should have said, I reckon....... as a preface. I think he's a good coach, a clever guy, and decent. He's not a patch on Lilywhite bosses of the past, few are, though I think he was better than the main rival option I heard mentioned time and again by some folks in town. After last year I didn't think he'd last the season, I don't know if he'll be in the club this time next year.

Possibly not, he was given a 2 year deal and that runs out this year and we all know how Gerry Matthews goes through staff!
20/01/2011, 11:31 AM
pineapple stu

From yesterday's Fingal Independent -

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SPORTING Fingal's plans to announce a major new sponsor have had to be put on hold indefinitely because of 'restructuring' by the company involved.

Anyone with a subscription able to reveal more?
20/01/2011, 11:48 AM
The Lep

Someone is feeding the indo porkies.
20/01/2011, 12:58 PM
Spudulika

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Originally Posted by pineapple stu

From yesterday's Fingal Independent -

Anyone with a subscription able to reveal more?

I heard the exact opposite from a very, very inside source. Somebody has an axe to grind, a former GM anybody?
20/01/2011, 1:05 PM
thischarmingman

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Originally Posted by Spudulika

I heard the exact opposite from a very, very inside source. Somebody has an axe to grind, a former GM anybody?

Is this the same source who told you Cowan would resign on Monday?
20/01/2011, 1:08 PM
Spudulika

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Originally Posted by thischarmingman

Is this the same source who told you Cowan would resign on Monday?

No, he'd be gone, never said from where though :-)

But I called it almost right, my buddy working as a FG assistant in the Dail said that there'd be a vote of confidence within FF, which was right, but she thought he'd go. I just hoped he would.

I think this "leak" from SF bears closer scrutiny, especially if it's who's been named previously. Sad if it is.
03/02/2011, 11:42 AM
total hoofball

I know this is the 27th time its been speculated but there was speculation last night that this time it may be the end for Fingal this week? The word is the new financial backing to replace Gannon hasn't materialised
03/02/2011, 11:47 AM
Martinho II

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Originally Posted by total hoofball

I know this is the 27th time its been speculated but there was speculation last night that this time it may be the end for Fingal this week? The word is the new financial backing to replace Gannon hasn't materialised

that was the exact reason why Alan Kirby only signed for Sligo Rovers last week. He was awaitin this offer from fingal once the backing went thro. He got tired of them and went to sligo instead.
03/02/2011, 11:51 AM
total hoofball

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Originally Posted by Martinho II

that was the exact reason why Alan Kirby only signed for Sligo Rovers last week. He was awaitin this offer from fingal once the backing went thro. He got tired of them and went to sligo instead.

There's alot of contradictory speculation out there because I've read this week on forums about the likes of Boco and Oman definitely signing for them. Kirby's situation would fit in with the uncertainty Fingal have had with their supposed new finance over the last 2 weeks
03/02/2011, 12:12 PM
Ezeikial

It is strange to say the least. The signings of Greg Bolger and re-signing of Gary O'Neill indicates, at a minimum, that Liam Buckley and these two players believe that funds will be in place. Considering that Buckley spoke to just about very decent available player in the league, along with the absense of other signings to date - indicate that this funding is far from certain.The fact that the Shaun Williams transfer has not materialised to give a cash injection is another worrying sign if these doubts prove true.

With Setanta Cup looming in a fortnight for Fingal, Buckley would surely be very anxious to complete his squad.

One effect of his "offers" to players is the wage inflation created by demand for players, or perhaps inertia by other clubs and players waiting to see what happens.

The worst of all possible worlds is that Fingal do a "Bohs" and offer big contracts based on hope rather then expectation of income
03/02/2011, 12:24 PM
pineapple stu

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Originally Posted by total hoofball

I know this is the 27th time its been speculated but there was speculation last night that this time it may be the end for Fingal this week? The word is the new financial backing to replace Gannon hasn't materialised

Have you any sources for these at all? Cos otherwise it's just unsubstantiated allegations.
03/02/2011, 12:25 PM
pineapple stu

Also, back kind of on topic, what sort of squad have Fingal got at the moment (total numbers-wise)?
03/02/2011, 1:09 PM
redobit

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Originally Posted by total hoofball

There's alot of contradictory speculation out there because I've read this week on forums about the likes of Boco and Oman definitely signing for them. Kirby's situation would fit in with the uncertainty Fingal have had with their supposed new finance over the last 2 weeks

Kirby lives in Longford, as far as i know, so playing for us made travelling easier.
03/02/2011, 1:31 PM
Dodge

For what it's worth I've heard they won't make the season.

Only yesterday they announced a new Commercial manager so its a quick turnaround

Trying to get it confirmed now. Have they friendlier lined up? Any soon that may need cancelling!
03/02/2011, 1:34 PM
Dodge

http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showthrea...932019&page=69

False alarm maybe?
03/02/2011, 1:36 PM
Guinney

It would p**s me off if Fingal got players like Bolger and couldn't afford to pay them because it makes the competition unfair and in a way its cheating as it was well documented that Foster wanted to sign him and couldn't because Fingal could offer a better contract.
03/02/2011, 2:02 PM
Longfordian

Sounds like they're going to have a much lower budget than they hoped for, at the very least.
03/02/2011, 2:08 PM
Dodge

Dan McDonnell reckons a statement is due soon
03/02/2011, 2:10 PM
Longfordian

Saw that on Twitter alright , "a few issues there" he reckons.
03/02/2011, 2:13 PM
TheBoss

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Originally Posted by Dodge

Have they friendlier lined up? Any soon that may need cancelling!

They were due to play Parkvilla yesterday, and they pulled out of it.
03/02/2011, 2:19 PM
Dodge

They've no money

'The club has regretfully, for the first time since it�s inception in 2007, not been in a position to pay players� wages at this point and are urgently attempting to resolve the issue.'
03/02/2011, 2:24 PM
Longfordian

Here's the club's official press release.

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Sporting Fingal has been seeking to restructure over recent months ahead of the 2011 campaign.

It had developed what it believed to be a viable business plan on a reduced and prudent scale having secured new investors and some sponsors. A number of commitments which would be crucial to its viability have, in very recent days, not materialised.

The club has regretfully, for the first time since it�s inception in 2007, not been in a position to pay players� wages at this point and are urgently attempting to resolve the issue.

The FAI and the players� union, PFAI, have been informed of the situation.

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Sounds ominous.
03/02/2011, 2:31 PM
MMVIII

Good riddance.
03/02/2011, 2:35 PM
Macy

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Originally Posted by Longfordian

Here's the club's official press release.

Sure what would they know? Everythings fine...

btw were Bohs relying on the rent?
03/02/2011, 2:38 PM
pineapple stu

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Originally Posted by Fingal press release

The club has regretfully, for the first time since it’s inception in 2007, not been in a position to pay players’ wages at this point and are urgently attempting to resolve the issue.

And they were paying transfer fees for players last month? Ridiculous situation.
03/02/2011, 2:39 PM
passinginterest

That sounds like it's going to be fatal for them alright. This supposed funding was being questioned by just about everybody so not surprised it's fallen through. As Macy points out it could have implications for Bohs too with the potential income from rent lost.

Never nice to see a club in a position like this but it's not like Fingal weren't warned of the dangers of their model. The concept had some potential as a community venture but it was *******ised into something very different.

Would hope that maybe they can survive just to prevent yet another reshuffle of the league.
03/02/2011, 2:40 PM
Hibs4Ever

We could see UCD in Europe at this rate
03/02/2011, 2:41 PM
pineapple stu

Nah; isn't it Bohs and Fingal to be replaced by Dundalk and Pat's in the worst case?

(We've an outside chance via the Fair Play apparently)
03/02/2011, 2:42 PM
athloneman

This situation just shows the stupidity still involved in the LOI, relying on "backers" and "investors" to run a club has never and will never work in the LOI unless there is a firm fan base and a steady flow of income into a club, yet another club to go bust due to stupidity!!!
03/02/2011, 2:43 PM
Hibs4Ever

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Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Nah; isn't it Bohs and Fingal to be replaced by Dundalk and Pat's in the worst case?

(We've an outside chance via the Fair Play apparently)

Ah, sorry, thought you's finished ahead of Dundalk
03/02/2011, 2:44 PM
pineapple stu

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Originally Posted by athloneman

This situation just shows the stupidity still involved in the LOI, relying on "backers" and "investors" to run a club has never and will never work in the LOI unless there is a firm fan base and a steady flow of income into a club, yet another club to go bust due to stupidity!!!

Look on the bright side; if Fingal are gone, it's the last of the big spenders gone. The league had to reach this position.
03/02/2011, 2:45 PM
passinginterest

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Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Look on the bright side; if Fingal are gone, it's the last of the big spenders gone. The league had to reach this position.

Wishful thinking.

There'll always be someone... :(
03/02/2011, 2:46 PM
LeixlipRed

Where are Lep and the boys??

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