Cork City denied a licence; club to be wound up; FORAS to enter First Division

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27/09/2009, 11:20 PM
fionnsci

FORAS should start thinking about getting a Cork based side into the A Championship for next year ar eagla na heagla. Not abandoning CCFC in the process but having a contingency plan if Coughlan gets the club destroyed. If this was the happen then we'd want a healthy Cork side back in the PD asap.
28/09/2009, 8:46 PM
sheao

FORAS are organising a protest before the game tomorrow night against Sligo .
28/09/2009, 10:28 PM
Hairy Bowsie

What kind of a protest? Because at this stage, unless it's a boycott, it's futile.
28/09/2009, 10:30 PM
Acornvilla

we dont like oo tom boy! go away like or il busht oor face!!
28/09/2009, 11:08 PM
A face

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Originally Posted by Hairy Bowsie

What kind of a protest? Because at this stage, unless it's a boycott, it's futile.

Well it would go someway to highlighting that fans are not happy, to all Citys support base and also to the media, local and national.

It will hopefully highlight to local business, sponsors and the general public that FORAS take an interest in the welfare of the playing staff and non-playing staff (who have not been paid for weeks now.)

I was going to stay away from the game tomorrow night but i will go now, in solidarity for people at the club who need and depend on a wage for their families etc. and this protest is a good vehicle for fans like me to do that. Express my dissatisfaction for the clubs board but still enable them to pay their staff.
28/09/2009, 11:31 PM
MariborKev

Good plan by FORAS, I think the 10 minute thing is a great touch.
28/09/2009, 11:58 PM
eamo1

10 minute thing?

What do you mean by "the 10 minute thing is a great touch"?Whats gonna happen tomorrow night,might i assume a 10 minute protest before the game starts?
28/09/2009, 11:58 PM
dong

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Originally Posted by A face

Well it would go someway to highlighting that fans are not happy, to all Citys support base and also to the media, local and national.

It will hopefully highlight to local business, sponsors and the general public that FORAS take an interest in the welfare of the playing staff and non-playing staff (who have not been paid for weeks now.)

I was going to stay away from the game tomorrow night but i will go now, in solidarity for people at the club who need and depend on a wage for their families etc. and this protest is a good vehicle for fans like me to do that. Express my dissatisfaction for the clubs board but still enable them to pay their staff.

Best of luck with it but can't see much point. Anybody who has even a passing interest in LoI football cannot but be aware of the mess CCFC is in and know that their fans are "not happy".
The protests would have been better off before the start of the season when it was obvious to most what was in store with Coughlan at the helm again. Maybe you did have them, if you did then they obviously worked a treat.
29/09/2009, 9:55 AM
tiktok

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Originally Posted by joey4ireland

I have to agree. I don't want to put down foras because the work they have done sterling work up to now but I have to admit I was disappointed when I read the message in full. When I heard they were organising a boycott I thought great, finally the beginning of the end for TNB but was deflated to see they will only stay outside for ten minutes beofre going through the turnstiles. i total boycottis what is in order.

I have some sort admiration for those who are able to drag attend games after busgate though. I could never do it. Haven't being to city games in a while and won't be until he's gone

This is the first step.
29/09/2009, 7:15 PM
tiktok

There was quite a few fair points and collateral damage in that clear up.

Anyway, protest went very well, while it's a tiny crowd, more people stayed outside than went in. Factor in some of those inside were freebies, press, the two schoolboy teams for half time and it was a success.

Also quite a few ex-players were quite public in standing alongside the protestors.
29/09/2009, 7:19 PM
Schumi

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Originally Posted by tiktok

protest went very well, while it's a tiny crowd, more people stayed outside than went in.

Extratime reckons 200 were there for kick off. What's the full crowd?
29/09/2009, 7:22 PM
tiktok

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Originally Posted by Schumi

Extratime reckons 200 were there for kick off. What's the full crowd?

Official attendance is 1,377.
That's a far better result than I initially thought, we heard around 500 had gone through the turnstile before the protest crowd.
29/09/2009, 7:26 PM
Schumi

I'd take their crowd estimates with a large pinch of salt but it's probably not more than 100% or so off the correct figure.
29/09/2009, 7:56 PM
Buile Shuibhne

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Originally Posted by tiktok

Official attendance is 1,377.
That's a far better result than I initially thought, we heard around 500 had gone through the turnstile before the protest crowd.

I remember a few weeks back, TNB put out an appeal target, asking for 5,000 at your remaining home games which would be needed to keep the club afloat (or something along those lines?)

Just curious if anyone has kept tabs on the actual attendances as against the targets?

Would be interesting to see a running table on that?
29/09/2009, 8:53 PM
Cosmo

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Originally Posted by tiktok

Also quite a few ex-players were quite public in standing alongside the protestors.

Good to hear - who are the ex players youre talking about?
29/09/2009, 8:58 PM
micls

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Originally Posted by Cosmo

Good to hear - who are the ex players youre talking about?

They stayed on the other side of the road rather than standing with the protest itself so I dont know if they want it too public but they didnt go into the game until after the protest.

There were 3 Legends that I saw anyway
30/09/2009, 8:05 AM
James

yeah i was talking to 2 of them while handing out flyers
both in favour of the 10 min protest
30/09/2009, 9:56 AM
Martinho II

[QUOTE=micls;1241261]They stayed on the other side of the road rather than standing with the protest itself so I dont know if they want it too public but they didnt go into the game until after the protest.

After his speech on Mns I would safely hazard a guess that Dave Barry was one of them!
30/09/2009, 9:58 AM
micls

[QUOTE=Martinho II;1241462]

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Originally Posted by micls

They stayed on the other side of the road rather than standing with the protest itself so I dont know if they want it too public but they didnt go into the game until after the protest.

After his speech on Mns I would safely hazard a guess that Dave Barry was one of them!

I actually didn't see Dave there last night.
30/09/2009, 9:59 AM
tiktok

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Originally Posted by micls

I actually didn't see Dave there last night.

don't get drawn into revealing by the process of elimination ;-)
30/09/2009, 10:02 AM
Martinho II

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Originally Posted by tiktok

don't get drawn into revealing by the process of elimination ;-)

damn ye! I was trying to suss who the ex players were!!:D
30/09/2009, 10:19 AM
pineapple stu

Pfft. Former players.

What would have been impressive is if any of the current players had joined in.
30/09/2009, 11:46 AM
John83

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Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Pfft. Former players.

What would have been impressive is if any of the current players had joined in.

Piffle. What would have been really impressive would have been getting opposition players involved.
30/09/2009, 12:40 PM
passerrby

reading toms comments after the busgate incident that they were concentrating on getting to europe next season, does anybody thing there is the remotest chance of cork being in europe next season ..unless there going to lourdes or that tax free haven
30/09/2009, 1:00 PM
PartySaint

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Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Pfft. Former players.

What would have been impressive is if any of the current players had joined in.

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Piffle. What would have been really impressive would have been getting opposition players involved.

Pfft, What would have been really really impressive would have been if Tom Coughlan have of protested against himself
30/09/2009, 1:23 PM
micls

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Originally Posted by bellavistaman

Question: Was Dan Murray actually on the local radio appealing to the people of cork for donations, as in the man himself, i know the good people of FORAS were.

Yes.

And no one from FORAS was, it was just the players and the radio staff
30/09/2009, 3:40 PM
Mr A

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Originally Posted by PartySaint

Pfft, What would have been really really impressive would have been if Tom Coughlan have of protested against himself

Horse testicles. What would really, really, really have been impressive would be if TC not only joined in the protest, but doused himself in petrol and torched himself while tap dancing and singing the Korean National anthem.
30/09/2009, 3:41 PM
John83

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Originally Posted by Mr A

Horse testicles. What would really, really, really have been impressive would be if TC not only joined in the protest, but doused himself in petrol and torched himself while tap dancing and singing the Korean National anthem.

Backwards.
30/09/2009, 3:42 PM
brianw82

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Originally Posted by PartySaint

Pfft, What would have been really really impressive would have been if Tom Coughlan have of protested against himself

If he was Joe Higgins, maybe....
30/09/2009, 3:42 PM
Mr A

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Originally Posted by John83

Backwards.

Goes without saying.
30/09/2009, 3:46 PM
pineapple stu

Right.

I had to get up in t'morning at ten o'clock at night, half an hour before I went t'bed, drink a cup of sulphuric acid, work twenty-nine hours a day down mill, and pay mill owner for permission to come to work, and when we got home, our Dad and our mother would kill us and dance about on our graves singing Hallelujah.

Sorry, wrong thread...
30/09/2009, 3:50 PM
razor

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Originally Posted by pineapple stu

I had to get up in t'morning at ten o'clock at night, half an hour before I went t'bed, drink a cup of sulphuric acid, work twenty-nine hours a day down mill, and pay mill owner for permission to come to work, and when we got home, our Dad and our mother would kill us and dance about on our graves singing Hallelujah.

Thats nothing try being a Cork City fan
30/09/2009, 4:47 PM
passerrby

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Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Right.

I had to get up in t'morning at ten o'clock at night, half an hour before I went t'bed, drink a cup of sulphuric acid, work twenty-nine hours a day down mill, and pay mill owner for permission to come to work, and when we got home, our Dad and our mother would kill us and dance about on our graves singing Hallelujah.

Sorry, wrong thread...

you lucky lucky bastrrd what i would not give..........
30/09/2009, 5:21 PM
Sheridan

You must be kidding, bellavistaman. You object to his soliciting funds so he can travel and place his fitness and livelihood on the line by playing a game he probably won't be paid for (on behalf of an employer who's dicked him around wholesale), basically for the benefit of the fans and the community?
30/09/2009, 5:37 PM
Hairy Bowsie

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Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Right.

I had to get up in t'morning at ten o'clock at night, half an hour before I went t'bed, drink a cup of sulphuric acid, work twenty-nine hours a day down mill, and pay mill owner for permission to come to work, and when we got home, our Dad and our mother would kill us and dance about on our graves singing Hallelujah.

Sorry, wrong thread...

And you try tell that to the kids of today and they won't believe you!!
30/09/2009, 5:50 PM
tiktok

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Originally Posted by bellavistaman

Ok my bad. Heres my theory on this fiasco, right you've a man who "earns"(wheter he gets it or not is a different ball game) over a grand a week, and hes on the radio asing people, in a resession, and people on the dole to give them a 5er 10er or 20 spot, anybody find something suss about that like, i think its sums up modern day footballers myself.

Dan Murray probably won't end up getting all the wages he's due this year from his employer if the recent history, dwindling attendances and lack of fundraising is anything to go by.

I reckon that the players are hoping that they can get into Europe and it will attract a new investor, they couldn't run the risk of failing to fulfil the fixture and getting a points deduction. You seem to imply he should have paid for the bus himself?

Realistically, with the current owner, there isn't a hope in hell this team will be anything more than a memory next season, can't blame the man for fighting for what little chance he has of holding onto his livelihood.
01/10/2009, 8:09 AM
davidatrb

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Originally Posted by tiktok

Dan Murray probably won't end up getting all the wages he's due this year from his employer if the recent history, dwindling attendances and lack of fundraising is anything to go by.

I reckon that the players are hoping that they can get into Europe and it will attract a new investor, they couldn't run the risk of failing to fulfil the fixture and getting a points deduction. You seem to imply he should have paid for the bus himself?

Realistically, with the current owner, there isn't a hope in hell this team will be anything more than a memory next season, can't blame the man for fighting for what little chance he has of holding onto his livelihood.

The problem is that its more than a livelihood, its a passion and its a dream. If it was just a regular job like yours or mine it would be different. If my employer stopped paying me or was screwing me around like that then I'd be out the door and get a new job. If I had to go to England for it, I'd be gone, or if I had to look at a different industry here in Ireland then I would too.

I have to say that I find myself half agreeing with bellavista on this. These guys are living out every boy's childhood dream and getting paid very well for it.

I have huge respect for the players for what they have put up with, but I think at this stage its gone too far. Nobody should have to put up with the humiliation of having to go on radio and plead for the bus fare to work. I think that they have a choice. Leave for England where they can get the wages that they are used to, or get a regular job and keep up their passion and their childhood dream for football by playing for a team like Cobh or Limerick for a couple of bob at the weekend.
01/10/2009, 8:43 AM
Ezeikial

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Originally Posted by davidatrb

I have huge respect for the players for what they have put up with, but I think at this stage its gone too far. Nobody should have to put up with the humiliation of having to go on radio and plead for the bus fare to work. I think that they have a choice. Leave for England where they can get the wages that they are used to, or get a regular job and keep up their passion and their childhood dream for football by playing for a team like Cobh or Limerick for a couple of bob at the weekend.

The choice is not just A or B. What they obviously want is C - Play professionally for their preferred club and get paid.

It's just that the TNB led Cork City can't provide that.
01/10/2009, 7:36 PM
Cosmo

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Originally Posted by micls

They stayed on the other side of the road rather than standing with the protest itself

So 3 ex players watched the protest from across the road! thanks for clearing that up!
01/10/2009, 8:00 PM
tiktok

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Originally Posted by Cosmo

So 3 ex players watched the protest from across the road! thanks for clearing that up!

Yeah, it's a good thing that we were talking to them or we mightn't have been sure they were supporting us. I'm telling you, the Internet and facebook are great but I think this 'talking to people face to face' idea might just catch on.

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