Staunton Ireland Manager?

Could we have Staunton as player manager? Still waiting to fill that left back role since his retirement. ;)

Owls Fan, The FAI are right not to make an announcement but then the should make sure that one there are not leaks from the organisation. That Its CEO and manager dont inform Cathal Dervan to go on TV and tell the what the situation is. Hate to use this comparison but its a bit like the way Hitler Used Goebels. Also Stauntons old man is talking too. If I was getting a big job I would tell my parents to shut the **** up and dont speak to the press. So to say the FAI are2
Also Stauton did win a league and started playing for Liverpool in 1987 so I think he has at least 2 League winners medals and Fa Cup Winners Medal and League Cup Winners Medal
He played under

Daglish
Atkinson
Taylor
Charlton
Mc Carthy
Gregory
Evans
Houllier
Souness

and a few others I presume. I would say that is a mishmash of good and average and poore managers. I would say the best way to learn is to play under a mixture of managers as u realise the good and bad things rather if you only play under good managers u dont know whats good or whats bad u just know one way of doing things.. Also he played with average and motivated average players. Another thing which is important to the Irish job.

I am not in favour of this but just setting a few facts straight.

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Originally Posted by tetsujin1979

Was Staunton at Liverpool the last time they won the league? I think he has a League cup winner's medal from Villa and that's it. .

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FA Cup winner in '89 and League winner in '90

Date of Birth: 19-01-1969
Birthplace: Drogheda
Debut : 17th September 1988 v Tottenham Hotspur (H) Football League Division One: drew 1-1
1st team games: 147
1st team goals: 6
Other clubs: Dundalk, Bradford City (loan), Aston Villa (twice), Crystal Palace (loan)
International caps while with Liverpool: 35
International goals while with Liverpool: 7
Honours with Liverpool: First Division Championship 1989/90, FA Cup 1989

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Originally Posted by Kempes1-0

FA Cup winner in '89 and League winner in '90

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Look at all the players who have won a Champions League medal with Liverpool but are total rubbish! Medals count for little.

Arsene Wenger is more likely to have a medal for playing chess than playing football but he is still one of the best coaches in the business.

Everyone is blowing on about Staunton being a great motivator but motivation will count for little when he comes face to face with a disciplined team and a tactically proficient coach.

A good coach can motivate the fans as well but nothing that has come from the lips of Staunton has ever inspired me.
I'm here to be proved wrong but I can't see myself enjoying the wait.

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Originally Posted by Peadar

Everyone is blowing on about Staunton being a great motivator but motivation will count for little when he comes face to face with a disciplined team and a tactically proficient coach.

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Agree,I expect the alarm bells will start to ring around Jan 27th;)

cant believe owls fan will just refuse to admit the fai are badly run no matter what the evidence..."its not the people in the FAI's fault there are leaks its the fact that the decisions are made by commitees...." yes. commitees populated by the same people who run the organisation so badly...who cant keep anything in house.
best of luck to staunton, he will need it.

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Originally Posted by El Pablo

Staunton and Kevin Mac Donald will do a good Job. The Players Will Respect Them And Learn to play as a Team


Good Luck Lads

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Just to bump this post up from 2 days ago. Any more info El Pablo? :)

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Originally Posted by NeilMcD

Owls Fan, The FAI are right not to make an announcement but then the should make sure that one there are not leaks from the organisation. That Its CEO and manager dont inform Cathal Dervan to go on TV and tell the what the situation is.

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Exactly. Seems like the FAI have released this to judge public reaction & are not passing out more information justifying their position based on that public reaction. :rolleyes:

Paying Robson 250k for an "advisor" role is crazy money which i'm sure he found impossible to turn down. An advisor will have no responsibility for results so no accountability. 500k for someone coming from player-coach at walsall (i'd guess currently on alsolute maxium 250k) is also pretty clever negotiating...

For all we know Staunton could just be an observor at Walsall training sessions or be the ballboy. AFAIK he has no coaching badges so a complete novice.

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Originally Posted by tetsujin1979

I think the people who say that the likes of Van Basten, Rijkard, Voller, Hughes etc all got appointed are forgetting that they played under some of the top coaches in Europe, and won any number of trophies between them. Was Staunton at Liverpool the last time they won the league?

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When did that ever guarantee anything? The likes of Ferguson and Wenger had virtually nothing in terms of a career and they've done alright. Whilst there have been plenty to play under top managers who failed as managers, John Barnes for instance, Brian Robson :D Personally I wouldn't have appointed Van Basten, Rijkard or Voller either, they were as much of a gamble as Staunton.

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Originally Posted by NeilMcD

He played under

Daglish
Atkinson
Taylor
Charlton
Mc Carthy
Gregory
Evans
Houllier
Souness

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You missed whoever was managing Dundalk :D

i just have a feeling that its not all a done deal yet

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Originally Posted by pete

Paying Robson 250k for an "advisor" role is crazy money which i'm sure he found impossible to turn down. An advisor will have no responsibility for results so no accountability. 500k for someone coming from player-coach at walsall (i'd guess currently on alsolute maxium 250k) is also pretty clever negotiating...

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I suspect the BBC website may be rehashing other media stories and have got the wrong end of the stick but in an article about Kevin McDonald being the new "coaching guru" they describe Robson: "receiving a two-year deal as his assistant."

I know Dervan is a bit of a cnut but I think in this regard he is within the loop so I think its pretty save to assume that

Staunton will be manager
Mc Donald will be his assitant
Robon will be his advisor, (whatever that means but it will become apparent at the Press Conference.)

Staunton will be the man in charge and he is using Robson as a souning board and to fight of criticism that he is inexperience (in my view in invites more criticism in relation to the structure)

Its speculation to suggest the money at this stage and that Staunton will be on 500,000 and Robson will be on 250,000.

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Originally Posted by OwlsFan

Whatever about the rights and wrongs of the appointment, for those attacking the FAI in the way they are handling the matter, the FAI is perfectly correct not to make any statement until a contract has been signed. If the negotiations were to break down (which is always a possibility) they would get terrible stick for a premature announcement that Staunton is to be the new manager.

The rest of the stuff is media driven with quotes from "sources close to Robson" (his pet dog ??) and "a source at the association" (the janitor ?) as the mainstay of the speculation. However, there is no doubt that the FAI continues to leak like a sieve no matter who is in charge there. This is what happens whenever any decision has to be ratified by a committee.

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Who do you think leaked the news to Dervan et al? The FAI deliberately flew a kite re. Staunton/Robson and the media and public have laughed at them. In that case we may indeed see some back-pedalling from the Merrion Sq. mandarins.

BTW One very prominent hack (not Dervan) has been swearing blind for three months that Staunton would get the job. He emailed a mate this morning to say "told you so". How did he know? The FAI are the people responsible for this mess and all previous messes. Don't ever forget that.

KOH

who is the prominent hack then.

just got sent this. Timeless (pardon the pun)

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a8/weemex/timestan.jpg

:D

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Originally Posted by NeilMcD

Daglish
Atkinson
Taylor
Charlton
Mc Carthy
Gregory
Evans
Houllier
Souness

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and he could not get a bit of free advice off any of those coaches? Instead the FAI want to shell out 250K for Staunton to get some advice on how to be a coach. How is it going to work out? Robbie Keane gets injured 25 minutes in to a qualifier with Israel and Staunton will use his "phone a friend" joker.

Either they should have fully backed Staunton or had him as an assistant to an experienced man as they wanted to do from the beginning. This proposed arrangement is an expensive mess waiting to happen.

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Originally Posted by macdermesser

and he could not get a bit of free advice off any of those coaches? Instead the FAI want to shell out 250K for Staunton to get some advice on how to be a coach.

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Dalglish: They'd both be mumbling too much to make the conversation of any use at all.

Atkinson: Would you ask this man for advice?...Well would you?

Taylor: We've had enough of agricultural football thank you.

Charlton: Gone fishing.

McCarthy: I think he's a bit busy with his own problems.

Gregory: Whatever happened to John Gregory anyway... hmm?

Evans: [See under "Gregory"]

Houllier: [See under "Atkinson"]

Souness: [See under "McCarthy"]

if keane gets injured he'll probably bring on keane

athat was meant to read"if keane gets injured hell bring on quinn