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who is having the mare now?? please explain why i have had one?? you are trying to make yourself sound clever on this with stupid statements ie kerley and barrett wont know about league of ireland players when they have over 30years playing or coaching between them and now you are saying that a top premier loi side is only league two or lower?? all il say to that is shamrock rovers qualified for the europa league group stages last season and seamus coleman,kevin doyle,shane long,james mclean to name a few making regular places for themselves in the english premier league..can u name the players that have came from league two or lower and held down regular places in a premier league side?? i said it already you are a bluffer............ League of ireland premier is a lot higher standard than you give it credit for..

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Originally Posted by kingpin4

First division is the equivalent of non-league/ conference football over there. Go see a game and you will understand, bigger attendances than the majority of First Div teams, better stadiums than most and similar wages.

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Just on this, having been to two conference matches last week, I found the standard of football was well short of 1st Division. I'm talking defenders blindly hoofing balls as far away as they could, swinging and missing when trying to clear a ball under pressure, very poor decision making, outrageous tackles flying in, periods of extreme dullness during the matches (was still enjoyable to watch overall to be honest). Crowds were similar (around the 400-500 mark), stadium (this was a brand new stadium) was no different to many LOI grounds - couldnt tell you about the wages.

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Originally Posted by KevB76

Just on this, having been to two conference matches last week, I found the standard of football was well short of 1st Division. I'm talking defenders blindly hoofing balls as far away as they could, swinging and missing when trying to clear a ball under pressure, very poor decision making, outrageous tackles flying in, periods of extreme dullness during the matches (was still enjoyable to watch overall to be honest). Crowds were similar (around the 400-500 mark), stadium (this was a brand new stadium) was no different to many LOI grounds - couldnt tell you about the wages.

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Less of your informed comment please.

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Originally Posted by Daydreamer

Surprised Nobody has Mentioned this Guy , very good player for Limerick and has a lot of experience , also is uefa B qualified as well as the strnght and conditioning / sports science Background , would be great to fill a coaching role in some capacity either fitness or coach .

Derek McCarthy
Strength & Conditioning Consultant at Myerscough College
Blackburn, United Kingdom Sports
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Mentioned him for what?

You lot are going to feel so silly when Sean Connor is formally unveiled.

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Mentioned him for what?

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Fitness coach or coach as mentioned in the end of my previous post

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Originally Posted by Daydreamer

Fitness coach or coach as mentioned in the end of my previous post

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I thought you were surprised he wasn't mentioned for manager and i was wondering did he not have to have a pro licence to be able to do that.

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Originally Posted by Sea Bird

who is having the mare now?? please explain why i have had one?? you are trying to make yourself sound clever on this with stupid statements ie kerley and barrett wont know about league of ireland players when they have over 30years playing or coaching between them and now you are saying that a top premier loi side is only league two or lower?? all il say to that is shamrock rovers qualified for the europa league group stages last season and seamus coleman,kevin doyle,shane long,james mclean to name a few making regular places for themselves in the english premier league..can u name the players that have came from league two or lower and held down regular places in a premier league side?? i said it already you are a bluffer............ League of ireland premier is a lot higher standard than you give it credit for..

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Alright Mike, relax.
I never said they didn't know anything. All I said was that you'd see the old limerick heads, like the 3 I mentioned, coming back. You can calm down now and stop getting so wound up.

We'll agree to disagree on the difference in standards, but I think there's a bit if bias towards LOI, where those English clubs are miles ahead. Rovers qualifying for the Europa league can't be used as a comparison because Port Vale can't qualify unless they are in the premiership or championship. Put Port Vale in LOI and they'd have just as good a chance at getting to Europe.

The Derek McCarthy thing might not be bad as a staff member. Any thoughts?

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Rovers qualifying for the Europa league can't be used as a comparison because Port Vale can't qualify unless they are in the premiership or championship. Put Port Vale in LOI and they'd have just as good a chance at getting to Europe.

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Port Vale could win the FA cup? Wouldn't that get them into Europe?

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Port Vale could win the FA cup? Wouldn't that get them into Europe?

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Or progress up the leagues.

On the whole league one/league two and LOI comparison, I don't think it can be done.

For example a strong Shamrock Rovers or Sligo would easily hold there own in around the top of league one/bottom of the championship but as you go further down the league table i.e Dundalk last year then they would be struggling in league two and most likely be relegated over the course of a season in it. It's not as straight forward as saying the LOI premier is championship/league one standard etc..

How many players get signed from League Two teams to Premier League teams? Very few I'd say and less again From The likes of league two go to premier league teams and become regulars or progress to international standard. Were as the record in the league of Ireland in recent years has been fairly impressive, Keith Fahey, Kevin Doyle, Shane Long, Seamus Coleman, Enda Stevens, Wes Hoolahan, James McClean, David Meyler and probably a few more I'm missing out on.

The Derek McCarthy thing might not be bad as a staff member. Any thoughts?

and how much do you think it would cost per week to have him leave his current job and uproot to come and settle in Limerick?

http://www.limerickleader.ie/sport/s...e-on-1-4658636

Some more fantastic reporting from the Leader. "Foley says that Shaun Kelly, Joe Gamble, Stephen Bradley and Garbhan Coughlan are the only other players contracted for next season. That means that players like Pat Purcell, David O’Leary, Brian O’Callaghan, Denis Behan, Shane Tracey, Rory Gaffney, Stephen Maher and Stephen O’Flynn are all out of contract at the moment" :rolleyes:

Defo agree lads great to get in as sports scientist , at least he can relate to what its like to play , a lot of these guys dont know whether a ball is pumped or stuffed and limerick did look unfit for practically a full time squad last year ,

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Defo agree lads great to get in as sports scientist , at least he can relate to what its like to play , a lot of these guys dont know whether a ball is pumped or stuffed and limerick did look unfit for practically a full time squad last year ,

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From talking to one of the players, he said the one that's there is pretty good. "Just look at how fit Paddy Purcell has gotten" were his exact words. Also, they only trained twice a week, so pretty much part time.
But I wouldn't mind seeing Derek there as a first team coach or something. Think he'd be pretty decent.
Then again though, it might cost a good bit to bring him in.

That Limerick Leader article is a joke...how can a local paper be so out of touch like that?

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http://www.limerickleader.ie/sport/s...e-on-1-4658636

Some more fantastic reporting from the Leader. "Foley says that Shaun Kelly, Joe Gamble, Stephen Bradley and Garbhan Coughlan are the only other players contracted for next season. That means that players like Pat Purcell, David O’Leary, Brian O’Callaghan, Denis Behan, Shane Tracey, Rory Gaffney, Stephen Maher and Stephen O’Flynn are all out of contract at the moment" :rolleyes:

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What makes it worseis that Steve McGann and James McGrath are signed up too.

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Defo agree lads great to get in as sports scientist , at least he can relate to what its like to play , a lot of these guys dont know whether a ball is pumped or stuffed and limerick did look unfit for practically a full time squad last year ,

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How were they practically full time though? They only trained 3 days a week or something?

Ya thats my point only twice or three times a week when not many of them are working , they will need to train more for the premier , also dont think sports scientist can take credit for paddy as he has been lean for 3 or 4 yrs now and heard from players that the guy only ever took the lads who were injured or out of the squad for laps , think derek would be ideal to do a double job , first team coach / strenght and conditioning etc , i know a few lads that know the guy and they said him and mick shiel did not have a clue , were just yes men which is fair enough if you want to keep your job , usually the whole back room staff clear out when a manager goes so hopefully a whole new back room staff are appointed if only to freshen things up , come on limerick whoever is there lets get behind them

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Ya thats my point only twice or three times a week when not many of them are working , they will need to train more for the premier , also dont think sports scientist can take credit for paddy as he has been lean for 3 or 4 yrs now and heard from players that the guy only ever took the lads who were injured or out of the squad for laps , think derek would be ideal to do a double job , first team coach / strenght and conditioning etc , i know a few lads that know the guy and they said him and mick shiel did not have a clue , were just yes men which is fair enough if you want to keep your job , usually the whole back room staff clear out when a manager goes so hopefully a whole new back room staff are appointed if only to freshen things up , come on limerick whoever is there lets get behind them

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Seen him loads of times with lads that were in the starting team doing all different things in the gym.

It seems like they have basically copied the write up I was told was in the Star yesterday about Foley saying the club need to get a move on and that they really don't have a clue what is going on the club when they mentioned players that have been gone over a year, failing to mention other players that have re-signed.

Good news though that Foley is staying on. I think his experience will stand to us in the Premier as he seems (barr a few injuries) to be still fitter than a lot of lads.

On Purcells fitness, didn't he go out himself running to get himself fit? If players are going to be playing premier they need to have an attitude like that regardless of how many times a week the team trains. Gamble is another one who even when there isn't training with the team is out training himself or running, although in fairness he is full time.

Derek would be great to get in but he may not be interested and it could be change for the sake of change.

A lot of people are also talking about the players we need to hold onto from last year. We can't forget that there are some players that may not be able to commit to the extra training etc… also which is another reason we may lose them or that they may decide to part with the club.

Good point on the players a coach or sports scientist can only do so much , players got to do it themselves , just think derek would be better than all the other guys mentioned having experience in england and being local

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he has been lean for 3 or 4 yrs now and heard from players that the guy only ever took the lads who were injured or out of the squad for laps

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2009 he was still wearing the knee brace and fairly pudgy... I didn't notice how fit he was starting to look til the end of the 2010 season. I think he came in round then because I remember someone I know got introduced to him at training 1 day.
I don't know any of the work he does, and if he is just a yes man then he should be handed his p.45 as well.

Anyone know what the story with the press conference is? Can anyone go?