Ya I think if rovers don't make it they'll be letting the rest of the teams in Europe and the league itself down.
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Ya I think if rovers don't make it they'll be letting the rest of the teams in Europe and the league itself down.
Ya I'd sorta forgotten it was Tuesday too and just after a Thursday game 😁 but in general I'd expect game time in Europe to stand to them moreQuote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
Would need to be seen again but first impression on the foul on Kelly at the end it looked like a forearm was up in the face. Not so much a bought free or experience. Ward on a little earlier to put a foot on the ball and ping a dangerous pass in might have settled a few nerves earlier.Quote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
Agreed. Levo for Buckley and Wardy for Devoy would have been my changes with 30 mins to go.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
Could be right about the peno but it looked dodgy enough to me on first sight.
If Pineapple Stu is around tonight, I thought you should know about the following tweet:
https://twitter.com/aljomc/status/14...025936896?s=21
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How do you mean? That more European football would make them less tired?Quote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
The context I wanted to share with you was that the legginess out there tonight was significantly attributable to the culmination of a lot of game time in the league and Europe for a small group of players. Not an issue of summer football not standing to us or a lack of conditioning which your posts seemed to imply.
Yeah! I cant see PAOK being beaten next week. They'll be sharper and want to make a point. I wouldnt totally rule out Bohs but they've made a mark, ruffled some Greek feathers. Be interesting to see what their rivals are saying! Never bothered to look at PAOK's full name before but its impressive in itself - Panthessaloníkios Athlitikós Ómilos Konstadinoupolitón - I'd have been beaten before a game seeing that name on a scoreboard but in fairness they've come on well since 2011/12!Quote:
Originally Posted by sbgawa
Playing a resurgent Waterford this weekend wont be a help to Bohs.
Dry your eyes mate!Quote:
Originally Posted by ciaraa
Well beating PAOK is not for everyone😬Quote:
Originally Posted by sbgawa
Anyone have that video of the paok board and fans celebrating their 80th anniversary. Gives you a fair idea of the size and love for their club
That is some result by Bohs. Enjoy it for sure but without trying to pour too much old water on it , well it means nothing unless it can be backed up in 2nd leg. Similar to when we beat Rosenberg away in 1st leg, that was a top result but soon forgotten when they knocked us out in 2 nd leg.
what does that mean? are you quoting streets lyrics from 2004 or are you from england?Quote:
Originally Posted by ger121
You know, I was going to mention Sligo-Rosenborg earlier but forgot in the excitement. That Sligo result was difficult to take as a neutral, as I seem to recall them throwing it away a bit. A cautionary tale for Bohs nonetheless, but tonight is also about celebrating one of the better individual LOI Euro results that many of us have seen.Quote:
Originally Posted by redobit
it's actually a great point (redobit). savage result by sligo but they were put in their box once rosenborg realised what was going on. great effort nonetheless. de bowez aren't half what that sligo team were.
So what? Tonight’s Bohs win against PAOK still a performance and result to be savoured! Cheer up! LOL.Quote:
Originally Posted by ciaraa
Go easy, Drogs have had of plenty European pedigree to know all about it, from the Gartland peno specialist to that Hughes sitter and Robinson running the line to almost bury Kiev...Quote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
The negativity from some quarters re this result seems to be the gritted teeth "Well done bohs (hope you get a hammering)" variety.
Yes, next week will be a different affair, but there is a chance. A chance not many would have given coming into this match. I was nervous as f*** before the match. Regardless of the result next week that was another special night in for our club... and with this bunch of players who knows. All it would take is a chance converted to change the complexion of the tie in Greece.
Not too many well dones from certain quarters , but a lot of genuine positive remarks from most LOI fansQuote:
Originally Posted by Bohtastic
To actually watch live quality football in Lansdowne after many years of international dross is reward In itself. To have your local team you have supported from childhood play with that intensity and skill on the big stage is a bit special.
I did spot PC's PAOK mates bearing gifts for him , I will say yassu to them when I am in Salonoki next week.
Last night's result won't be forgotten by Bohs fans. I can't really speak for Sligo/Rosenberg but if the 1st leg win was at home and pretty much every Sligo fan was at it I assume it would be spoken about more. Have to be honest I'm in total dreamland. Like everyone here I haven't been able to go to games for a year and a half and have found that horrible. To think that the last few weeks is what was waiting for us as football fans when we came back is just so amazing and hard to wrap my head around. Last night was one of those rare beautiful moments you get as a football fan.Quote:
Originally Posted by redobit
I expect we'll probably still get knocked out. Last night felt like a little taste of what it feels like to win a group game - maybe also because it was in Lansdowne. It was our 5th European game of the season so it feels like a proper European campaign.
Kyiv were much better then to be fair then than now, or p_stu might point out revisionism on my part, they seemed to be getting to CL group stages then but I think this PAOK one is bigger and certainly bigger than the Sligo Rosenberg game, even though again Rosenberg were CL regulars in the mid 00s well before Sligo played them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
I think it was the manner of the performance, especially the first 50-55 mins where Bohs just matched them and outplayed them for spells in that period. Ya its definitely the best I have seen, and I have watched a lot at this stage!
Yeah nice little taster, but ye have to just take the word of us Dundalk fans for now:oQuote:
Originally Posted by bohsmug
Perhaps there is a bit of lurching from one extreme to another here, you are all probably right.
Was it an excellent performance and result? Yes
Should Bohs fans be waking up elated this morning? Yes
Are PAOK still highly likely to progress? Yes.
I think trying to compare it to previous European results is a waste of time, and certainly comparing the standard of the opponents on a then and now or then and then basis is silly.
Rosenborg with several CL group stage campaigns probably have more European pedigree than PAOK? Again, yes. The likes of Gothenburg who Derry beat home and away certainly did for example but would be way off PAOK’s standard now, but this really is all irrelevant and is basically trying to make a comparison for the sake of making a comparison.
Bohs fans can understandbly be giddy about this, the rest of us can understandbly take a step back and more logically say super performance and result but still up against it big time. On the latter most of us hope we are wrong.
Personally I can never understand fans of one LOI wishing another well in Europe - why would one wish their rivals well especially in the context of the money that can be earned ? you wouldn’t expect Celtic fans to be cheering for Rangers or Everton for Liverpool .
Because they are bitter ****s! We’re better than that, it’s the same in the rugby, the provinces route for each other in Europe.Quote:
Originally Posted by Calcio Jack
Impressive win by boez last night and good for the coefficient I presume.
Reports from the London PAOK lads was they enjoyed their day on the pi$$ in Dublin, thought the atmosphere generated by boez fans in almost empty stadium was decent, their own team looked still in pre season, and ref was atrocious, apparently.
The lads thought the "little guys" in midfield for boez were impressive , thought both teams looked shaky at the back and wondered why they bothered with the "lumbering guy upfront" - I told them he's the LOI top scorer... 😁.
One of them is going to the return game next week in Greece and seemed quietly confident of PAOK progressing.
Dont know what you expected me to say beyond great result ??Quote:
Originally Posted by ger121
But as people said about us beating Slovan if you dont back it up it means nothing.
Dundalk beating Bate over two legs or us doing Partizan is what matters...you have a chance next week to make a little bit of History for yourselves beyond moral victories.
Now THAT is a good pointQuote:
Originally Posted by Dalymountrower
Yet to meet a Munster man that cheers for Leinster, maybe i just know a load of bitter ones:)Quote:
Originally Posted by CSAD
You can recognise a good performance without necessarily wishing teams well if you know what I mean,that’s where I’d fall on watching Irish teams in Europe!Quote:
Originally Posted by Calcio Jack
I don't agree with the sentiment that Bohs win against PAOK means nothing unless they go through.
PAOK are still strong favourites and rightly so, but last night is the most impressive win a LOI team has had in Europe since 2016. Fair play to them. It proves once again that LOI teams are capable of winning matches at that level, even if it only happens now and again. And it's another few points for the coefficient, which is always nice.
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Just checked BBC weather and it expects 34 degrees at k.o. time in Thessaloniki next week, with a real feel of 36. Scorchio!!
Agree 100%Quote:
Originally Posted by joey B
Same with us Leinster fans even though the best players at Munster and Ulster are from LeinsterQuote:
Originally Posted by sbgawa
Not sure if anyone had pointed this out, but as things stand Bohs are ranked 1st in Europe so far this year with 4 wins and a draw (they obviously have the advantage of having played an extra game than most). The league is ranked joined 5th. This would be top if we were to exclude the top 4 league that have 4 teams automatically in the group stages.
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Ireland8 2 3 0 0 0 0 9.0 2.250 1 Bohemians Dublin ECL 4 1 0 0 0 0 0 4.5 not out 34 Dundalk ECL 3 1 0 0 0 0 0 3.5 not out 113 Shamrock Rovers ECL 1 0 1 0 0 0 0 1.0 not out 212 Sligo Rovers ECL 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 0.0
Yes the draws have been decent but whats more obvious now than ever is that there is no easy games in Europe. There's been dozens of teams that would have said they got a good draw and came out the worst. Bohs and Dundalk have gone and won 7 games between them so far and these are teams which aren't even in contention domestically. No matter what way you look at it, it's some achievement.
Did I read a stat before that Bohs were the first team to win 3 European game in a row in a couple of decades? Have any Irish team ever won 4 games in a row?
Bohs have won 4 European games in a row, Stjarnan Dudelange x2 and PAOK
Mark McCadden reporting last night, that Bohs are the first Irish team to win 4 European games in a row. ever.Quote:
Originally Posted by yurt
And anyone who saw the Stjarmen game in Iceland will know that Bohs should have won that too. They are a team that is suited to playing against footballing teams, and Lansdowne suits them hugely. This was clear last year against Videoton/Ferharvar, where they would have been full value to advance. these performances aren't a surprise. The match-ups they have around the pitch work really well Lyons & Coote, Buckley/Devoy, Wilson/Breslin & Burt, even Tierney & Kelly to a degree.
I'm a big fan of Cornwall, and was happy to see him back in instead of Feely, but he looked out of his depth to a degree last night, no shame considering who he was up against, but the Cornwall/Kelly partnership is decent too.
Yeah I have absolutely no qualms with fans not supporting other LOI teams I generally like to see them do well but can understand the flip side as well. I think with Rovers - Bohs in particular there can be no expectation that one would support the other in any way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Calcio Jack
I see the following post to yours mention provincial rugby. It is a sad day if Irish football fans were trying to become like that.
I know quite a few Leinster people who cheer for Munster and Connacht in their European ties.Quote:
Originally Posted by sbgawa
100%.Quote:
Originally Posted by Philosophizer
How often has an Irish team been drawn at home in the first leg against a vastly superior side (or against a seeded side), and gone out and won the first leg?
In the modern era say...so I've spent the past couple of hours checking this out:
In the CL:
- Cork in 06 (vs Apollon - but hard to say how ahead of Cork Apollon were at that stage)
In the Uefa Cup:
- none.
In the Europa Lge:
- Pats in 2009 vs Krylia Sovetov
- UCD in 2015 vs Dudelangers
- Rovers in 2019 vs Apollon
So Bohs victory last night is only the 5th time since 1996 that a LOI side has won the first leg at home against a seeded team.
That's a pretty big deal, regardless of whether they qualify or not.
Oh, and aside from all that, Sligo are f-ing shíte in Europe for the LOI .
Some great pictures going around of olympic bronze medalist Aoife Lambe cheering on her local team in Lansdowne last night in full Bohs gear.
So I think we can claim that as a second Bohs olympic medal following the success of Oliver St John Gogarty in ..em.. poetry .. ( naturally)
Because we're the forgotten league and forgotten clubs in our country. Europe is one way to restore pride and respect in that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Calcio Jack
Also as another poster said above, we're better than that.
Part of me is very happy for Bohs, another part of me is going, Jesus imagine if this was a regular thing but it can only be a good thing for the league as whole.