Not quite unfortunately. If we beat BATE we're into the Champions League play off round. If we lose its the Europa League play off round.Quote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
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Not quite unfortunately. If we beat BATE we're into the Champions League play off round. If we lose its the Europa League play off round.Quote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
And if they lose they are into the playoff
Ya sorry i read something on rte.ie thayt confused me its still there actually. The champions route have a final playoff from the ten winners.
Never trust RTE when it comes to news relevant to LoI clubs!!Quote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
Ya they said that if they win they are in the group stages that didnt sound right to me as i thought back to rovers so i went on the Wikipedia sight and the way i read it was the winners go through and dont have a 4th round which i thiught was a bery fair way of ensuring 10 champions to go through :D i just never looked at the table below :
To give 3 sloppy goals away, miss a penalty and still go through well we've rarely done it the easy way! Could have and probably should have had 2 wins. No pressure for BATE so helps a bit. Depending on EL Play-Off draw if thats where we end up and its a big prize again! Lots of very tired people, with both sore voices and heads in Iceland....
Absolutely delighted for dundalk. Definitely could've made it easier for yourselves tonight, think hanging on at the end could've been avoided. But bringing Benson on at half time really changed the game. Great to have the cushion of a Europa league play off but hopefully ye can have a good go off BATE now. Very impressive away support there tonight also very vocal, unlike the home fans.
Fingers crossed another two, or at least one of us or pats can get through tomorrow. Feeling very confident about us so here's hoping we can deliver. Tickets are selling fast by the sounds of it so should be a very healthy crowd at it and the same in Inchicore from what I've heard
Hang on... hang on.Quote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
Are you saying you talked up Icelandic football without actually being at a game to judge for yourself?
Took geysir at his word! Not intending to sound like gloating but if that is the best Icelandic domestic football offer there is no way that it superior to the top 4 in LoI currently. We made heavy weather of it but if we had been on form there wouldnt have been the nervy end!
To be fair, they did what few LOI teams can do and scored three times against Dundalk, so they're at least as good as Longford. Possibly even better.
KR were no great side last year either. They were a side that we should have put out, and on this years performances in Europe, we would. There's no reason to fear these guys whatsoever.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
Anyway, it's rare that I'm delighted at a Dundalk result, but buzzing now from that result.
Hopefully us and Pats can do the same. I think Pats obvious problem is their defence. They'll probably concede which will make it difficult. It also won't be easy for us, but we do have the perceived easier tie (albeit they do have a budget of €25m) and a close to capacity Turner Cross. It'll be an interesting night.
Scored once in each game v City for UCD and Sligo in successive league games.Quote:
Originally Posted by El-Pietro
1.500 is what we are losing, 1.250 is what we're up to so far. Two more draws, or a single win will bring us up to that level.Quote:
Originally Posted by ger121
No, he scored twice for us against Cork (though not three as I said). That was his last game for us, so I presume Cork v Sligo was his next fixture.
Is that all? I reallly thought he'd scored more than that.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Donie Forde
Fairplay to Dundalk.
Unfortunately for us, it likely means another moved fixture. We've been hit very badly with scheduling. We play Wexford tomorrow, 49 days after our last home match.
Expecting close to 5,000 at the Cross tonite, don't forget €20 for adults is expensive enough when you consider that it is only a Europe competition which can be difficult at times to attract fans who prefer the domestic league campaign.Quote:
Originally Posted by patrickccfc
St. Pats on the other hand can only expect around 2,500 max as unlike Turners Cross is not an all seated ground, Richmond has a Main Stand seating and open seating behind one goal.
Would they ever consider installing temporary bucket seats if they progressed to the next round?
With €1.2m now, is there any plans to upgrade Oriel to allow it host the next rounds rather than move to Tallaght?
Obviously too late for this year (!), but you'd imagine they'll have European campaigns the next couple of seasons anyway. Daft to have to move the games completely out of the town and county.
The FH ground looked a nice tidy one which put most of the LoI grounds to shame.
It's pointless putting any money into Oriel with the ownership issues.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Thought that'd be a good idea myself, but possible issues with the ownership still, no?Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Regarding prices, I think clubs generally tend to stick a fiver (or more) onto the price of European tickets. What are Pats and Dundalk charging, €20?
Robbie Benson changed the game. Not only is he a class player but it allowed Finn to play further up the field. It has taken a while for Benson to attain the required level of conditioning. Now that he has he needs to play in our midfield.Quote:
Originally Posted by patrickccfc
Best of luck to Cork and Pats, it won't be easy in either case. These games never are.
is it too soon to ask about ticketing arrangements for the home leg v BATE in Tallaght? Would people expect a sell-out?
Getting through the round is like a badge of honour. Dundalk join the list of being a higher level of champion like Shelbourne and Shamrock Rovers.
For teams in the Europa League the bar should be getting to playoffs as well. If Cork and/or Pat's get through two rounds to Q3, it'll be a decent achievement. Going one step further and reaching the playoffs would be great.
sounds delusional that our bar should be set so high when our opposition has international players & have qualified for the group stages the two previous season.Quote:
Originally Posted by legendz
Well youre always the one saying you dont need to go to games. I saw a few on TV from the last few years, thats always enough for you to comment in the Ireland forum. ;-)Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
€15 for adults into Richmond this evening same as the prices for leagu matches.
You're entitled to your opinion. Getting to the EL playoffs via whatever route is what I have respect for from any of the league's representatives.Quote:
Originally Posted by D24Saint
Benson made a huge difference & when Dundalk were coming under pressure late in the game Shields came on to protect the back four.Quote:
Originally Posted by White Horse
Dundalk were excellent & well deserved to go through.
We have to win 3 rounds to get that far. If we win tonight we will have beaten a team with a budget over 16 times bigger than ours. Then we will have to Beat Genk. Genk haven't qualified in a couple of years and its hurting their coefficient but when they were in they were consistently qualifying for group stages.Quote:
Originally Posted by legendz
2011/12, CL group Stage, drew their three home games, lost their away games to Chelsea, Lerverkusen and Valencia.
2012/13 EL Last 32, unbeaten with three wins and three draws in the group against Sporting, Basel and Videton. Beaten 3-1 by Stuttgart on agg.
2013/14 EL Last 32 unbeaten with four wins and two draws in the group against Dynamo Kyiv, FC Thun and Rapid Vienna. Beaten 2-0 on agg by Anzhi Makchachkala.
Pats will probably need to knock out a team who last year knocked out Samdoria, winning 4-0 in Italy.
Also, Cork City won a round in the CL in 2006, why aren't we on your arbitrary list of "higher level of Champion". Dundalk have literally won a single tie, they will get to the EL Playoff because its designed to get Champions League teams there, same as Rovers. Its incredibly difficult to do so from the first round of the Europa League, especially as an unseeded side.
What were Cork's results in 2006? Was it the year they missed out on playing Milan?
You mean to say that Cork who went a goal up early on, who decided to defend en masse around their goalmouth for the rest of the game (incl.ET) against 10 men, deserved to go through?Quote:
Originally Posted by Pablo Escobar
A 10 man KR dominated the 2nd leg, Cork were a cowardly, negative embarrassment that night, in complete contrast to Dundalk yesterday.
Last evening was great game to attend between league champions who gave their all, with a cup tie rocking atmosphere all the way through. The Dundalk fans were brilliant. The first 20 minutes of the 2nd half Dundalk really upped the tempo and caught FH cold. This was a hard earned and totally deserved victory. it was easy to see that FH were out on their feet in the 2nd half, they had a tough away game last Sunday. The LOI rescheduling makes total sense.
One factor against Dundalk is that Bate pretty much know what they are facing and that they won't stroll the game.
Beat Apollon Limassol 1-0 in Cork, Drew 1-1 in Cyprus. Lost 1-0 at home and 3-0 away to Red Star Belgrade. Would have played Milan in the next round.Quote:
Originally Posted by legendz
He never said we deserved to go through. he said we should have been able to knock KR out. If we had played the way we can then we would have done. If we played like we have done in Europe this yearthen we would have.Quote:
Originally Posted by geysir
Current club co-efficients
Dundalk 4.040
Pats 4.040
Sligo 3.040
Rovers 2.790
Derry 2.040
Cork 1.790
UCD 1.540
Bohemians 1.290
Drogheda 1.290
All others 1.040
The national coefficient is 5.075 and we're ranked in 41st place
Yeah sure look Shelbourne and Shamrock Rovers stand out in the memory. I remember that good Cork side alright. After winning in Cyprus two good players got suspended for indiscipline in the tunnel after the game. I always saw that as what costed Cork the opportunity of a glamour tie against the might Milan.Quote:
Originally Posted by El-Pietro
The Drogheda side that came within a whisker of knocking out Dynamo Kiev is another fine champion that I'd rate.
My top 5:
1. Shelbourne
2. Shamrock Rovers
3. Dundalk
4. Drogheda
5. Cork City
Dodge - I'm sure I could look this up, but bit trickier on mobile - but what's the general score needed to be seeded?
I would say you'll not have any issues getting a ticket. There are already complaints from people as to why the game will be in Tallaght, and most of these complaints are from people who don't bother going to Oriel for league games.Quote:
Originally Posted by Burnsie
BATE will have virtually no fans at the second leg and the key for us is to make sure the tie is not over after the first leg to ensure a decent turnout.
3.7ish should get you seeded in the EL First round.
I know there's a jump to full time (as I presume Benson is now), but given he was controlling midfield in European matches last year, did he really need four months to be ready to do it again this year?Quote:
Originally Posted by White Horse
Is it not more likely than Kenny just has too much choice in midfield?
5.4 was the lowest seeded team in the 2nd round CL qualifier this year.