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Coleman has had a tremendous season. Haven't caught many Everton games, but I saw Coleman stifle and terrorize Ashley Cole all season and there are not many people who can do that. That doesn't even take into consideration his shove on John Terry. Great guy.
In a sense Coleman is lucky enough to be shortlisted. It is supposed to be for the calendar year and he's only really been a PL player since August. Just shows the impact he's had in that short time I suppose. I think McCarthy is more deserving considering his contribution over the whole year. Gareth Bale should walk it anyway if there's any justice in the world, which obviously there's not! He should get the overall award too in my opinion, with Vidic his only real threat. Is it just me or is Jack Wilshere one of the most unlikable players around?
Its not. its for the 2010/2011 seasonQuote:
Originally Posted by DeLorean
Oh right, well I'm just going to go rethink everything so!:oQuote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
Vidic has been muck recently, without ferdinand actually. I never knew he had such a lack of pace.Quote:
Originally Posted by DeLorean
really? even after Torres repeatedly skinned him when he was with Liverpool?Quote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
Bale had a few excellent weeks but hasnt done it over the season in my humble opinion... what about Charlie Adam?Quote:
Originally Posted by DeLorean
I thought he lacked a quick turn of accelleration but not actual pace, he has neither.Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
Had to check his D.O.B there, thought he was much older. Actually only 25, thought he was about 30 - still too old for young player of the year though!Quote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
hes a scottsh 25. must of had a rough paper route
I'd agree that Bale wasn't consistent over the season, but he has been one of Spurs' most influential players despite that. He had some amazing games, particularly against Inter.Quote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
Another slightly patronising bit from Moyes about Coleman's lack of senior football before joining Everton:
http://www.evertonfc.com/news/archiv...proved-player-
The Sky Sports presenter yesterday mentioned he'd been bought from "Sliggow Rovers." I almost went all Richard Keys on her but I managed to restrain myself.
Coleman is also missing from today's game with an ankle injury - seemingly a recurrence of the one that kept him out of Ireland's games.
Everton 3-0 up now, could be devastating for Wolves
wolves are going down.Micks own fault for not buying defenders
What's patronising about that? There's a huge leap from playing LOI to the English Premier League. Plus he wasn't even playing at LOI level that long either....Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
sorry man, misunderstanding - i was referring to Bale for the overall award and then suggesting Adam for the overall award (not that he'd ever get it!)Quote:
Originally Posted by Junior
That's because he was out injured a lot this season. I think he was the best player over the calendar year though, which I mistakenly thought the award was for, must have got mixed up with the world player award or something. Bale only started getting recognition after his performances against Inter, but he's been top class since breaking into the team in February (I think it was) when Assou-Ekkoto was out injured, and was the main reason Spurs qualified for the Champions Legaue.Quote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
There's way too much made out of Torres giving Vidic nightmares. One match he gave him big trouble and scored a couple of goals in other matches. Torres didn't get a kick in his first three matches against United. Played well in the 4-1, dispossessing Vidic for the equaliser. It was Gerrard who got Vidic sent off. He scored in his next two fixtures alright, one of which was completely Ferdinand's fault. Vidic has got the better of Torres in most of the matches against each other but people only tend to remember goals. Obviously he's quicker than him, but he's quicker than most in fairness.Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
Came off the bench today and won a penalty. Setanta correspondent said he lifted the crowd with his mazy runs.
I wonder if Coleman is a better winger than he is a full back? He's able to terrorize the likes of Ashley Cole, so is there any great need for him to revert to RB?
I see him as a potential world class right back if he can improve his defending. I really hope Moyes reverts him to right back in the pre-seasonQuote:
Originally Posted by Predator
The way Trap sets us up, we're not getting much from the centre of midfield. We need all the creativity we can get from the full backs.Quote:
Originally Posted by tommy_c12000
Good piece here from Seamus in the Telgraph,
Lesser-known names have emerged as key figures at Everton as well, with Irish winger Seamus Coleman, 22, shortlisted for the PFA Young Player award. Coleman attributed his success to a grounding in violent games of street football on his housing estate in Donegal.
"The games were so competitive," he said. "Up the hill was where the other team came from. We were the Killers, they were the All Stars. We were all mates and went to school together but we weren't when the games started. We'd kill each other and there would be fights when the games were going on. They were battles, believe me.
''I haven't had a whole load of coaching. I just go for it. I just want to get past my full-back. If I don't do it the first time, I'll keep trying until I do."
Coleman on the bench today again for Everton against Manchester City. No place for Shane Duffy, however. Given on the bench for City.
He'll be on sooner or later. Everton haven't really been in this match.
ha, wonderful play by coleman when he came on today, to sprint back and tackle the ball off possibly the most irritating player in the world, mario balotelli. with mancini going into labour on the touchline just behind them. that said, coleman took a dive to win a free shortly after.. not on.
did anyone read Coleman and Neville on twitter
Cheers O'Shea, don't follow twitter but checked it out after looking on here.
Re Coleman's sentiments, quite right to. He deserves a first team place in Ireland - no doubt. Anyone who thinks, Kelly, Whelan, St Ledger, McShane, Lawerence etc should be in before Coleman, needs there head read! Of all Irish Republic players, Coleman is playing in a team ranked at the highest level in England. Therefore, he merits inclusion on his ability. Re 'Trap's Formula' -- Coleman has proven to be hugely adaptable and prepared to play in any given role. So Trap needs to fit him. Compared to the farce against Macedonia, the Italy, game -- while Ireland defended deeply and, admittedly it was a friendly, the inclusion of Coleman, gave Ireland options from the back, and it was his surging run that would supply the link up for Andrews to pass to Hunt, who bombed down the wing and supplied Cox. More of the same please. Simples
I need to have my head read for not thinking Coleman should be playing centre mid or centre half? He's a good player but he hasn't got the defensive side of his game to the required standard for playing full back at international level and he's not a better option than McGeady, Duff or Hunt on the flanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by shellyriver
What were Coleman's sentiments?
I think there's plenty of doubt about whether he merits a first team place. John O'Shea is our best and most reliable full back by a mile. McGeady and Duff are our best two wide options. Hunt put in two great shifts (one on the right, one on the left) in our last 2 games. Why on earth would you mention Whelan and St. Ledger above? A central midfielder and a centre-back? Seamie has not proved "hugely adaptable". He can play RM and RB, and he can play attacking and defensive, but I'd never let him near central-midfield, for example.
I like Coleman but don't think he's a first team shoo-in by any means. If we had two stronger CMs then maybe. PO'S referred to this a while back. I think Coleman is close though.
Eh can't remember the build up, but Ward supplied a great long ball to Hunt and I'm pretty sure Ward simply got the ball by coming out of defence. Don't think Coleman had anything to do with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by shellyriver
EDIT - Just watched it, you're right, Coleman does come out of defence with the ball quite neatly before the ball finds its way to Ward. So fair point. Still wouldn't say it was really instrumental to the goal though - seen Duff, Hunt and McGeady do the same thing often.
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Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
Just to point out incase people start reading into the above quote re 'colemans sentiments' as suggesting he has been ranting/moaning on twitter about not being in the Ireland team, thats not the case. I follow him and I think I have seen nearly all his tweets as I only follow a handful of people. He never once complained, and put some great comments up after Italy - along the lines of how a year ago he never thought he'd be playing against them and players like pirlo.
His p1ss taking with phil neville is great craic to read though!!
he really wound him up in fairness but as one of his townies said you don't and shouldn't be doing that to senior players let alone the captain
Looked like banter to me.
Yeah seems totally innocent to me as well. P Dot can fair dish out the slagging anyway, so he should definitely take it!
btw its been going on for weeks back and forward, so its definitely a bit of craic
Maybe Trap should get a Twitter acct. That way he can call up the young Irish players and get an immediate response.
your having a laugh aren't you. I am talk about starting from a position of dreamland and then attempting to link into reality! Great if there are two good CMs -- but by your logic Ireland would fail to employ a quality winger on the basis that the two present CMs are suspect. Coleman has shown ability to link from back, midfield and forward down the wing. Its up to the dynamic duo to use their immense positional awareness, skill and pace to pick out the best options before them! Lucky you think he's close, I am f**k it, by extension he should be starting for Chelsea or Man U -- Oh that's right, all the Irish players with Man U can't hold a first team place or get into the Irish squad proper. PS - Did you see the Italy game?
I've read this post a few times to try and make sense of it...but no luck. Anyone else having the same problem?Quote:
Originally Posted by shellyriver
Are you talking to somebody in particular?Quote:
Originally Posted by shellyriver
I think it was aimed at 'Lucky'.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin