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22/11/2018, 3:47 PM
brine3

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Originally Posted by tetsujin1979

Pretty sure Kilbane had other managers than Kerr at that time.

Ah right, so anything good that happened under Kerr was due to somebody else.
22/11/2018, 3:50 PM
jbyrne

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Originally Posted by brine3

Kilbane also said that Kerr improved him as a player. Which is true. Under Mick it was just stick Killer out on the wing. Kerr developed him into Zinedine. Kilbane helped shut down the French midfield in Paris.

kilbanes best years in an Ireland shirt was the 2002 qualifying campaign under Mick.
22/11/2018, 3:56 PM
backstothewall

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Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954

If a player shows no respect, you don't pick them next time. Simple. Anyone who comes in as manager will have to lay down the law straight away. Doesn't matter if he has 50 years top level experience or none.

Anybody able to think of a famous example of a manager taking this sort approach? I think there might have been some real gunslinger of a manager who did this before the 2002 World Cup with one of his players but I can't quite remember the people or country involved. 🤣
22/11/2018, 3:56 PM
tetsujin1979

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Originally Posted by brine3

Ah right, so anything good that happened under Kerr was due to somebody else.

No, claiming that he was solely responsible for Kilbane's performances at the time is incredibly disrespectful to the club managers he was working with at the time, and the attitude of the player himself to get the most out of the ability he had
22/11/2018, 4:04 PM
brine3

huh. Kilbane says himself in the clip that Kerr made him a better player.
22/11/2018, 4:05 PM
Diggs246

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Originally Posted by brine3

huh. Kilbane says himself in the clip that Kerr made him a better player.

Kilbane was a whole hearted player who gave it his all, but he was bang average at best
22/11/2018, 4:11 PM
DeLorean

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Originally Posted by Stuttgart88

I don't think we're talking petulant teenager and weak teacher scenario here. Of course there'll be respect, but what KK was saying is that Mick will bring an aura with him that Kenny may have to earn rather than immediately deliver.

This.
Along with the fact that he thinks the knives would be out quicker if results aren't good for Kenny straight away.

I think Kilbane has basically echoed the views of a lot of people on here, none of which have been accused of cheerleading for Mick McCarthy.
22/11/2018, 4:35 PM
OwlsFan

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Originally Posted by Diggs246

Kilbane was a whole hearted player who gave it his all, but he was bang average at best

Over 100 caps and 300 or more games in the so-called best league in the world! If that's bang average I'd love to see better than average. Kilbane was a great athletic footballer who could get to the by line, cross a ball better than most and get up and down the field better than most. Not the tippy tappy footballer you might like but a wonderful performer for Ireland.
22/11/2018, 4:37 PM
brine3

If you are worried about the knives being out after a couple of bad results, then it probably doesn't make sense to appoint a manager that half the country still hasn't forgiven for Saipan. (Whether you agree with him or not)
22/11/2018, 4:40 PM
shakermaker1982

Why the rush? Interview candidates ffs,
22/11/2018, 4:46 PM
DeLorean

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Originally Posted by brine3

If you are worried about the knives being out after a couple of bad results, then it probably doesn't make sense to appoint a manager that half the country still hasn't forgiven for Saipan. (Whether you agree with him or not)

Fair point!
22/11/2018, 5:02 PM
geysir

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Originally Posted by DeLorean

It should probably be noted, for those who didn't hear the discussion, that Kilbane was extremely positive overall about the prospect of Kenny managing Ireland.

Killer is a positive chap, but isn't his preferred option Mick? and he used the respect line as prop for his choice, a deal breaker of sorts.
I hear dandy Keith Andrews has a more mature :) different take on the respect in the dressing room issue.
22/11/2018, 5:23 PM
Paddy Garcia

I like Mick but I can never forget an interview he gave in Saipan - putting the McCarthy/Keane issue aside it still rankles.

He said he had worked hard to get here & he was not going to let anyone (Keane) stop him enjoying it.

I felt that he was there to serve the country - rather than enjoy himself - left feeling the whole approach would have been very different if less self serving.
22/11/2018, 5:23 PM
TrapAPony

Big Sam interested in the job. No direct quotes though.

https://www.skysports.com/football/n...d-managers-job
22/11/2018, 5:27 PM
Fixer82

It�s always been Robbie�s childhood dream to be the Ireland assistant manager
22/11/2018, 5:33 PM
seanfhear

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Originally Posted by brine3

If you are worried about the knives being out after a couple of bad results, then it probably doesn't make sense to appoint a manager that half the country still hasn't forgiven for Saipan. (Whether you agree with him or not)

If we could forgive Roy Keane then we can forgive Mick McCarthy .

After all Keane was much the greater sinner :dog:
22/11/2018, 5:36 PM
brine3

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Originally Posted by Paddy Garcia

I like Mick but I can never forget an interview he gave in Saipan - putting the McCarthy/Keane issue aside it still rankles.

He said he had worked hard to get here & he was not going to let anyone (Keane) stop him enjoying it.

I felt that he was there to serve the country - rather than enjoy himself - left feeling the whole approach would have been very different if less self serving.

Yes. Maradona was a total langer in 1986. Nobody sent him home though.

Keane and McCarthy were both to blame. But you expect the manager... to manage the situation.
22/11/2018, 5:52 PM
seanfhear

Keane was no Maradona .
22/11/2018, 5:58 PM
Diggs246

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Originally Posted by OwlsFan

Over 100 caps and 300 or more games in the so-called best league in the world! If that's bang average I'd love to see better than average. Kilbane was a great athletic footballer who could get to the by line, cross a ball better than most and get up and down the field better than most. Not the tippy tappy footballer you might like but a wonderful performer for Ireland.

Bull**** absolute bull****. He had one trick and when he was most needed on the big nights he didn't deliver, because he wasn't good enough
22/11/2018, 5:58 PM
Ol� Ol�

https://www.rte.ie/amp/1012682/

Rte rowing back on previous assertion on McCarthy or are the FAI just looking for Kenny to do the under 21 job?

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