Point taken, but very few teams can win here, no matter how good they are.Quote:
Originally Posted by stojkovic
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Point taken, but very few teams can win here, no matter how good they are.Quote:
Originally Posted by stojkovic
And here, folks, is the crux of the problem. We're paying "customers" now, not "supporters". Mr. Tom Humphries was spot on in last Saturdays times. I'm a supporter & all you customers can shove yer tickets. Yee don't deserve to be at any Ireland match in my opinion. The same ones that were abusing the team in San Marino no doubt. "I spent a load of cash getting here, I can abuse them if I want". Customers. Yee aren't supporters & yee never will be.Quote:
Originally Posted by backtowalsall
I have to be honest, I don't get your logicQuote:
Originally Posted by Colie
If you pay €50+ for a seat your not entitled to make your feelings known to the moron doing a terrible job for €400,000+
yet it is ok the question the commitment of the working man in the street who, with the other hundreds of thousands who by buying replica shirts, paying at the gate and watching on TV bankrolls the millionaire lifestyle of Stan? and Tom Humphries for that.
Disagree by all means, but who the hell is anyone to question the commitment of someone who pays to be there when they get free tickets for writing for a bad newspaper.
when you are the man who spends hundreds of euro every year on this, your a customer, and a valuable one, and you expect to be treated as one. If you weren't a supporter you would never be a customer in the firs place.
Unless your a talking head who gets in for nothing that is.
Here we go again the poor plight of the LOI fan get off your high horse, whats wrong with 'gaelic heads' at games, are they not entitled to support their country?!?Quote:
Originally Posted by Guts&Glory
Disgraceful atmosphere at the game saturday, was in the upper hogan , not a hint of support out of them, the lad on front tirned around and told me to 'tone it down' a bit...ffs..what sort of c%^ts are goin to these games..
The true fans will be there wednesday, and ill be booing the useless ginger git when we grind out a scappy 1 nil..
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Originally Posted by Jerry The Saint
And I'd do it again!Quote:
Originally Posted by lionelhutz
It's like a reflex action - I can never let a discussion on booing go by without bringining up the immortal Moleman quote :D
when at the same match the clown that does the PA announces a sub for west germany id go with dumbQuote:
Originally Posted by macdermesser
was irrelevant as only one team was trying to win that match in extra time and it wasnt spain. at least under mick we managed to beat our rivals at home like croatia, yugoslavia, holland, iran.... with decent away draws against holland, portugal....Quote:
Originally Posted by WoodquayBoy
yeah that's all well and good but, as has been shown in this group, very few teams need to win here because there's absolutely no chance of us turning them over on their home soil...Quote:
Originally Posted by mypost
Fact of the matter is, if any of the Germans had their shooting boots on we would have conceded a couple in the second half...
The plight of our football team will only start dawning on the clowns in the FAI tomorrow night when they see the empty spaces in the stands of Croke Park. I gave me tickets away for both these games. I refuse to go and watch Ireland while that imbecile is in charge of the team.
there is no way, he must have done the west germany thing for a laugh/bet ! its been 17 years since the re-unification, how could it slip his mind?
People over a certain age make slips like that. Heck, I sometimes refer to Czechoslovakia before catching myself, and I'm only 24.Quote:
Originally Posted by citizenerased
i doubt it. he hasnt a clue and as thick as two short planks. anyone who plays the well known cliff richard football classic "congratulations" after robbie keane broke the Irish goalscoring record is capable of anything!Quote:
Originally Posted by citizenerased
It wasnt just the booing of Stan .The booing at the end of the game was sick and stupid.
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Originally Posted by gufct
Just about every home 0-0 I have been at over the years ended in some form of booing by a few fans (usually the ones more interested in the wave than watching the game).
Fair point, doesn't change my opinion about his quality as a manager, but fair point.Quote:
Originally Posted by jbyrne
What it does do is show how bad things have gone since - we were performing that 'well' under MIck, and look at how we are doing now.
Anyway, Mourinho might be looking for something to do for a while, it says in the papers today that if England don;t qualify, they will go after him to replace McLaren. Seen as we know we won't qualify, should we sound him out before the neighbours call?
yeah wat a sad lot they wereQuote:
Originally Posted by jbyrne
everybody
protest down at the fai - prior to wednesdays game - take it to them - im all for it
delaney has to be removed - he is the crux of the problem
but i wont sit and boo in the stadium - ill be there supporting our boys
The protests got a little mention on 2TV yesterday (I was off work sick)
Yer man Aidan Power and the sports wan were on about a great crowd
at the game despite the talk of a black shirt protest.
He claimed that fans on about protesting are not real fans and they should
get behind manager and team ... or something like that.
Enjoy your night whatever you chose to do! We'll not miss you :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by drummerboy
ah , an optimist!Quote:
Originally Posted by citizenerased
not too bothered if fellas boo , i wouldnt do it myself though.Quote:
Originally Posted by OwlsFan
stan was in the dressing room when he was booed and i'm sure he has heard abotu it since. the man has a neck like a jockeys inner thigh though and he will not quit.
Stan is the new Peter O'Hanraha-hanrahan :)Quote:
Originally Posted by John83
STAN! YOU'VE LOST THE NEWS! :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by German Delegation
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Originally Posted by Noelys Guitar
You think you're correct about your comments about Stan? B*ll*cks of the highest order. Of course he f*cking cares, but caring doesn't mean he'll be able to put it right. Most of us here care, but caring doesn't get us to a World Cup, which to some idiots is our divine right!
Many people I've talked to who know him say he comes across as being out of his depth, always nervous, but certainly doesn't act like he doesn't care.
I'll support him and the team to the bitter end, its what supporters do, but I do wish he'd stand aside.
Question - How many managers just quit when things aren't hunky dorey? They're there to get things right, don't expect him, or any manager, to just walk.
God when did some of us get so bloody English:rolleyes:
Yeah see ya when the weathers a bit more fair! What a hero you really are...
As if the FAI will care, they will declare that this match is a sell-out (Which it is). Make an excuse over the quality of the opposition/weeknight/stephen irelands hair/etc. and point blankly refuse its got anthing to do with the disillusionment of the fans.Quote:
Originally Posted by drummerboy
I for one will be at the match cheering on the team. Staying away is the easy/fairweather fan option.
Err Johnny Giles for one. And I did'nt start following the team post Charlton/McCarthy. Using your guidelines for "Real fans" only those who turned up for the 1985 4-1 defeat are the "Real fans". All 7 or 8 thousand of us. The rest of the crowd that day were Danes. There the days when you find out who the "Real fans" are. But unlike you I fully understood why so few went to that game.Quote:
Originally Posted by onephillyhughes
boo boo boo! we boo rangers players past and present, players we think played for rangers but didnt, our president, bertie, stan, mick mccarthy, roy keane, robbie keane, kilbane, the stewards keeping lads from running onto the pitch, lads who don’t join in the mexican wave, the eurovision lad who sang at half time once…. you name them we boo them. if only we spent as much commitment and time actually getting behind the team we might actually has a positive effect on things.
how pathetic some of our fans are
The booing coincided with Lehamn talking his place in Goals at the canal end. As many of the leprachaun hat wearing man United supprting Oirland fan simpletons were booing him as were booing stan.
That commitment is saved for Man U, Liverpool, Celtic etc. etc...Quote:
Originally Posted by jbyrne
Sue Mott in the Daily Telegraph about booing Frank Lampard:
"All this fuss about booing Frank Lampard. We live in a democracy not Burma ((Brits refuse to acknowledge its new name)). Footballers get quite enough adulation, applause, approval, acclaim, mock-Tudor houses and sports cars with blacked out windows, even for being average, so a little dose of disaffection is not the end of the world".
I dont mind booing if the person its directed at isnt doing there job properly but Stan has done nothing wrong, he is finding his feet with a new team bringing in young players.
No matter what he does he gets slatted perfect example was Brady and Dumphy after the last game "why did he play McGeady he was terrible last match and should have been dropped"
Then for the Germany game dumphy and brady come out with " why has he dropped McGeady he is ment to be building for the future"
The people that booed are the same people that stand there resting there pie on there beer belly shouting advice at top athletes
I felt a bit for Stan but at the same time Delaney is refusing to accept that the public isn't backing him and the point has to be made, especially as Staunton claims not to read the media & is clearly unaware that the criticism is actually measured and objective. Sad but true. He is wrong to assume we expect to win in places like the Cech Republic ("we have no divine right..."). We just want our best players picked. Andy Reid's performance on saturday made nonsense of Stan's refusal to play him even for 5 minutes in Slovakia.
O'Brien & Kelly's poerformances actually justified Stan's selection on saturday. Credit where it's due. Keogh was a square peg in a round hole but he was game and I'm not sure Stan had much alternative. I thought Finnan was good all night but actually could have overlapped Keogh more than he did.
I thought the support was actually very good on Saturday. I still think there's real affection for the Boys in Green and everyone knows the team isn't as strong as it was. It's not exactly hardcore and the inflatable hands are naff, but Mexican Wave excepted :mad:I enjoyed it.
Are you for real???Quote:
Originally Posted by anto1208
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Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
Do they though?
So many people seem to go on about our abundance of top division players, how good a group of players they are, we have a small handful of top or decent players, after that, we're very, very average. People need to realise this, quick. Otherwise every game is going to get like an England game, booing the team, calls for peoples heads etc.
Tickets on sale for FAI HQ today so not a sell out yet..Quote:
Originally Posted by Ireland4ever
Thats a cop-out, one word for ye - SCOTLAND -Quote:
Originally Posted by onephillyhughes
i think your actions are very sad and patheticQuote:
Originally Posted by drummerboy
also u say that the plight will only start dawning on the fai when they see the empty seats - well einstein if you have given your tickets away with this idea in mind - then i have bad news 4 ya - ur seats wont be empty cos they will be filled by the ppl u gave the tickets to - so the fai wont give a damn if u are there or not cos ur seats will be filled
I'm not sure Bobby Robson does. He said we don't have a Rooney or a Van Nistelrooy. That's not the problem. Does Cyprus or Slovakia? And how prolific has Rooney been since euro 2004?.Quote:
Originally Posted by onephillyhughes
I think there's nothing wrong in our team with most players fit that a better central midfield won't soon put right, and a better left back. Kelly did well once he stopped tempting the ref into a straight red card but never got forward to overlap KK once. The German full back did and put in a great ball for Gomez (?) to miss badly.
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Originally Posted by Ireland4ever
Swings and roundabouts.
I don't recall booing at the end. There can't have been that much of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by gufct
Wasn't loads but there was definately booing.