Treaty v Athlone - 787Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
Treaty v Bray - 902
They were announced on the night but somebody must have forgot to log them.
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Treaty v Athlone - 787Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
Treaty v Bray - 902
They were announced on the night but somebody must have forgot to log them.
And even the First's decline is solely down to swapping Dundalk in for Cork, which is no aspersion on their fans, more the latter enjoying a number of Munster derbies when they were relegated.Quote:
Originally Posted by Buckett
Glass half full....we have grown again, up 38k on last year, 11 clubs with increases, and Derry growing, possibly getting closer to Dub clubs average net year, and all teams in top flight over a 2k average.Quote:
Originally Posted by Buckett
Glass half empty, the 38k increase , most of that is from 1 game, Bohs V Rovers in Aviva, probably 30k net. The other increases are marginal, offsetting some small falls, and the falling trend in Waterford and Galway would be a concern, only second season up. Rovers may have reached a current ceiling, 6k, and Pats growth seems to have slowed.
900K above, plus FAI Cup final + European games, would we hit 1m?Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
It certainly does seem without stadium improvements for Bohs, Shels and Pats we could only look at relatively minor growth for the near future.
Derry's increased capacity does give them potential if they're performing well, and had Cork got their pricing right they'd have likely seen a significantly higher attendance, but they'll be back to the First Division next year anyway.
There is perhaps scope for another 1 or 2 derbies a year at Landsdowne, although replicating last year's season opener needs to be done first before we get ahead of ourselves.
Hopefully the increased media presence this year from Virgin Media's TV coverage and News talk on the radio proves to be a catalyst to push things on further, particularly outside the capital.
I think a good few years of 'sold out' at the 3 Dub clubs mentioned isnt a bad thing. The Irish sporting public suffer badly with FOMO, waiting lists for season tickets grow and then at some stage can justify expansion. Myabe in some cases that has happened but its imo its better to have 4k sold out than 8k half empty. There is bound to be a sweet spot but Tolka's small incremental increases are good. If they could extend the 'new' stand behind the goal and sell it out, then look to rebuild the Ballybough end x years later for example. Im not sure how much an impact media coverage works unless it is good, creating credibility, that LoI is the place to be rather than token coverage of the past. Product on the pitch matters more.
[QUOTE=nigel-harps1954;2234548]Final table, pending filling in a few gaps of official figures:
Kerry v Athlone - 1st Aug
Treaty v Athlone - 19th Sept
UCD v Kerry - 19th Sept
Treaty v Bray - 10th Oct
Cobh v Dundalk - 17th Oct
Nigel, I'm also missing Wexford v Dundalk 5th Sep. Can't see a figure on LOI app or official website for it unless you have a different source?
Only Premier Division figure not yet published on the app or website is Waterford v Galway from the final weekend.
567 for the Wexford v Dundalk game.Quote:
Originally Posted by toffeejay84Nigel, I'm also missing Wexford v Dundalk 5th Sep. Can't see a figure on LOI app or official website for it unless you have a different source?Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
Only Premier Division figure not yet published on the app or website is Waterford v Galway from the final weekend.
Waterford v Galway was 3,211
4,503 at Shels vs Drita, surprised to see such a low figure for what was a do or die game. No doubt there’ll be an extra 6k barstoolers there for the Crystal Palace game next month despite it being a dead rubber
I feel like im cheating on Nigel by looking at that table!
I don't think there will tbh. Palace aren't going to draw a massive extra crowd. Thought it was ridiculous people mentioning Aviva. If it's a sellout I would say it would be because there's at least 3k palace thereQuote:
Originally Posted by 2 Year Contract
Are tickets even on sale for the Palace game? I looked online but could find nothing.
3648 at the play off final last night.
That's a great crowdQuote:
Originally Posted by trevy
Gotta say, I know it's silly that fifth in the First could get promoted, but the crowds got the playoffs, plus the fact that fifth hasn't ever gotten promoted (or even gotten into the final I think) really justify the format
Bray came 5th last year I thought? And they got to the finalQuote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
You're spot on actually, yep. The were easily beaten by Drogheda, so my point just about still holds!
Longford were promoted in 2020 after coming fifth.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Fourth. (I checked that one!)
Ah, the fact we lost on the last day and another result bailed us out had made me think we had finished 5th, fair playQuote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
2025 FAI Cup Final
Attendance: 35,252.
899,523 + 35,252 = 934,775Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
Congrats and fair play to Shamrock Rovers to win it, again. Still a great chance for number of teams to take the league next year. Its always changing in Ireland. I predict Pats or Bohs next season to win the title.
Askin Bohs fans, that stand behind goal rotting, is there a plan for a rebulit? Think thats towards KFC and so on not even possible to make that rebulit happen? You are now sell out every game with one stand not available for fans.
Not a Bohs fan but that end of the ground was sold off years ago. The rest of the stadium was sold to the council a few years ago. The council are going to knock the whole lot down and rebuild a new stadium.
https://www.thejournal.ie/dublin-cit...63851-Nov2025/
Cobh v Dundalk = 975
There's talk that Bohs could play Pats in the opening game of the season at the Aviva
https://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/league-of-ireland/bohemians-considering-aviva-stadium-return-for-first-league-game-of-2026-with-st-patricks-athletic-possible-opponents/a552009547.html
thats interesting from bohs doubt they will get the same crowd at aviva last season?Quote:
Originally Posted by 2 Year Contract
I wouldn’t underestimate that. Pat’s probably sell well too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Martinho II
These two clubs set the FAI Cup final record only a couple of seasons ago, granted this isn't a cup final but I'd say they'll get at least 30k in for thisQuote:
Originally Posted by Martinho II
Bohs-Pats at the Avia is definitely worth trying IMO.
If they donlt best the crowd at the Boihs-Rovers game last year it won't matter, so long as Bohs donlt make any less than they would if it was played at Dalymount.
Marquee opening fixtures could become a regular thing for the league. A little bit like the way that the cup final draws a lot of curious neutrals and non-natives.
During the dark old days where we couldn't get a man and a dog at his games I remember people used to often suggest doing a rugby league style "magic weekend" where every team would play in one massive venue ie the Aviva. Now while that would not be a runner, I wonder could two games be staged the same day or would security just make that a total no go?
The Presidents Cup could be another option for Lansdowne too as a season opener. If the game was counted as a league fixture as well as for the trophy?
Rovers v Rovers B team …. Hmmmmm …. Not sure how that could work….Quote:
Originally Posted by Buckett
Ha, I forgot ye won the double!
Who'll contest the Presidents Cup next year so? Cork as cup runners up?
In England, it's usually the league runners-up who plays in that scenario?
is the presidents cup even staying with the regime change ?
Am I right I'm thinking that the only other doubles in the President's Cup era, the runners-up in the league and Cup were the same team?Quote:
Originally Posted by culloty82
I don't think the interest is there for that to be honest. Fans don't seem to take the President's Cup all that hugely seriously. The FAI would need to put a big wedge of cash on the table to boost the impact of the game to make it work at the Aviva. Then you also get into the issue that if there are too many LOI games there, then it starts to dilute the relative importance of the FAI Cup Final as 'a big day out'.Quote:
Originally Posted by Buckett
League of Ireland attendances rise 11% in 2025
1.127m.
8% increase in Premier Div.
No doubt the Aviva crowd for 1st game was a help. Hopefully trend will continue in 2026.