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You apparently didn't know there was evidence (once in the hands of the J6 commission) which went missing? And the BBC is listened to worldwide. You're right, they do have a worldwide audience - but they choose what to report and what not to. Like I said, they once were very reputable, but not anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Do you believe the media tells all of the truth all of the time?Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Can you elaborate on that?Quote:
Originally Posted by mark12345
You're not very good at elucidating on your points beyond the most basic of Trump-like rebuffs, are you?
What sort of bull**** question is that?Quote:
Originally Posted by mark12345
I certainly believe some media outlets are more equal than others. BBC >>>> Mark Levin for example.
He is unashamedly Democrat but does a great job of pointing out the flaws with all sides of the argument. He is a hawk for Israel though. Anyway, for someone who doesnt mind acknowledging that there is fault for sh!tty American politics all over the place, id recommend the stand-up. Its a good laugh.Quote:
Originally Posted by mark12345
My basic stance on the media, here in America anyways, is as follows:Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
About 11 - 12 weeks ago the media was telling Americans that Trump is Hitler.
Yet since that time, many of the leading lights on the Democratic side have met with and shook hands with him.
And the American people are supposed to take the media seriously?
As I write I am watching Mark Zuckerberg at Trump's inauguration. He, Bezos and the CEO of Google have all backed Trump in recent days.
But this is the guy who is compared to Hitler? So hopefully you can see that the media is far more propaganda than truth these days, and indeed has been for a long time.
Most Americans have this opinion - you'll just have to trust me on that one.
And I could go all the way back to Russia Collusion which held America to ransom for the bulk of Trump's first term. Crap of the highest order it was.
And then there was the Hunter laptop which the media played a big part in suppressing.........there are many many examples of media lies and bias in America.
And none of them, to my knowledge, have ever come out after the fact and apologized for getting their stories wrong. And their mistakes always seem to benefit the Democrats, never the other way around.
Ultimately I would much prefer if (in the words of Rodney King) we could all just get along and turn over a new leaf for the New Year.
Maybe that is wishful thinking, but hopefully not.
We were discussing the BBC.Quote:
Originally Posted by mark12345
Can you show me an example of the BBC saying that Trump is Hitler?
Correct ~ Was.Quote:
Originally Posted by mark12345
Certainly for people who have a lot to cover-up and did wrong ~ Why else would they need pardons ? !Quote:
Originally Posted by mark12345
Zuckerberg, Bezos, etc, are all acting in their own self interest. He's shown before that he can make a lot of money for people who show him favour, and make life difficult for anyone who doesn't.
There's going to be a lot of focus on things like AI in the near future, and none of them want to run the risk of sanctions against their own company. So now we're in the situation where CEOs have to make nice with the President so he doesn't ruin their companies, just because he can.
Why is it correct seanfhear?Quote:
Originally Posted by seanfhear
Do you also have articles from the BBC likening Trump to Hitler?
Or any reason for your view at all?
Hmm?
You say four more years - but genuine question. Will he last four years?Quote:
Originally Posted by Real ale Madrid
Wouldn't surprise me if a bookies somewhere was offering odds on him not.
Obviously walls work ~ ~ That's why everybody has them in their houses, and locks on their windows and doors ! !Quote:
Originally Posted by Real ale Madrid
Getting him impeached is a long shot. What would get him impeached? He's a convicted Felon as it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
At least he's rowing back on this gender ideology nonsense anyway!
Mother of God.Quote:
Originally Posted by seanfhear
I'm thinking more of him getting shot againQuote:
Originally Posted by Real ale Madrid
Or even dying of old age and McDonald's
I wouldn't joke at the nasty stuff to have come out of that ideology in fairness...Quote:
Originally Posted by Real ale Madrid
I cannot. I did not make that claim (it was about the media in America).Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
The Vatican is surrounded by a wall !Quote:
Originally Posted by Real ale Madrid
Without a doubt, pretty much everything you say here is true.Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
But the fact that those guys are rubbing shoulders with this awful, awful tyrant (which the media would have us believe he is) and then the media doesn't hold them accountable afterwards. Surely that shows us that the media (which once held governments and politicians accountable on behalf of the people) now stand for absolutely nothing other than their own financial bottom line. Propagandists in other words.
You'd have to be absolutely certain that he was shot at in the first place.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Like I say, I do not have an example of the BBC saying this, but now that we're talking about it, would not it have been proper of the BBC to have published an Op Ed refuting these suggestions by those in the American media. Can we at least agree on that?Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Excellent speech ~ Very emotional ~ Up the Republic.
Joe Biden's latest pardons ~ They are ~ Joe Biden's siblings and their spouses ! !
Nothing too see here folks !
https://apnews.com/article/biden-par...972f7daf750a0b
You beat me to it Sean. The following is direct from MSN.com a few minutes ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by seanfhear
"WASHINGTON – President Joe Biden pardoned his brother James Biden and other relatives Monday for unspecified crimes, a similar last-minute move to protect his family from potential investigation as when he pardoned his son Hunter Biden for gun and tax convictions.
The president said he pardoned his brother and other relatives ? his sister Sara Jones Biden, his sister Valerie Biden Owens and her husband John Owens, and another brother, Francis Biden ? because of concerns about "baseless and politically motivated investigations wreak havoc on the lives, safety, and financial security of targeted individuals and their families," he said in a statement released minutes before the end of his term."
Those labelling Joe's family as "The Biden Crime Family," will feel vindicated now. That said, others are saying now that pre-emptive pardons are not worth the paper they're written on as one needs to be charged with a crime before he/she can be pardoned.
It is obvious the Biden family have been on the take for years ~ ~ And, that's why they have to be pardoned regardless of the waffle in the Joe Biden statement ~ And the same can be said for Fauci and the January 6th Committee.Quote:
Originally Posted by mark12345
Why have people being lying to themselves about the Biden family and the others ? !
You left out the most important part
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Biden said the pardons were intended to shield his family from politically motivated attacks and should not be mistaken as an acknowledgment of any wrongdoing.
Brilliant speech by the convicted Felon though. Totes emosh!Quote:
Originally Posted by seanfhear
Joe Biden says a lot of stuff ~ Most of it nonsense.Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
Ye were told that he would pardon very dodgy People ~ ~ Which he just has !
In fairness, the guy behind him who took the bullet would beg to disagree. If he wasn't dead.Quote:
Originally Posted by Real ale Madrid
Doesnt that just set up Trump to do the same thing when he leaves office? Don Jr. et al? It does stink a bit as a political move, a bit selfish. Not that I believe they have done anything wrong, I get the motivation (and will similarly get the motivation when Trump does it). As P-Stu pointed out - and i hadnt thought to question it before - it is a farce of a privilege.Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
"the bullet" - weren't multiple shots fired and wasn't trump apparently hit by a ricochet or a fragment?Quote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
Yes, and this is the state of American politics, where these sort of measures are seen as necessary.Quote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
Yet Gript is a perfectly cromulent source of information.Quote:
Originally Posted by mark12345
Anyone buy $TRUMP or $MELANIA coins?
I only recently came across Gript. From what I have seen of it, it is a user-based platform which allows people to have their say on various topics.Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
How can that be a bad thing? It is also now subscription only, is it not?
Fair play to you Stu.Quote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
There are none as blind as those who will not see, Sean. In fairness, I have been aware of the Biden crimes for quite some time now, as I'm sure you have too. But for the life of me, I can't understand why folks (and I'm thinking of those close to me) who were told that Biden's family was in it deep, and that Joe would pardon Hunter, then refuse to accept that they might have been wrong when it actually comes to pass (first Hunter pardoned and now this).Quote:
Originally Posted by seanfhear
It is harder to get a person to admit that they have been fooled, than to fool them in the first place ( old saying that works well for con-men / con-women )Quote:
Originally Posted by mark12345
Just look at the numbers of pardons from Joe Biden ~ The Biden's are a nest of crooks and have been for decades in America ~ What does it say about the American Democrat party that the Biden's rose so high in that party ~ And what really is the American Democrat Party ? !
https://twitter.com/USMortality/stat...55620391211408
Things are heating up for Mr Fauci. In response to today's pardon Rand Paul (Chairman of Senate Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs) says "If there was ever any doubt as to who bears responsibility for the Covid pandemic, Biden's pardon of Fauci forever seals the deal.......Fauci's pardon will only serve as an accelerant to pierce the veil of deception. "Quote:
Originally Posted by seanfhear
People like you and me knew, that Joe Biden would pardon all sorts of dodgy people, and a lot of dodgy people in his own family.Quote:
Originally Posted by mark12345
We know this, we see it coming ~ ~ But innocents, can't see it coming and can't understand why he is doing it !
We know why he is doing it ~ Because the Biden family is as dodgy as fook, and have been for decades ~ And the Democrat party is a dodgy party and has been for decades !
This is the reality of the Democrat Party and the Biden family !
Now the Republicans are probably much the same ~ And who knows, maybe worse sometimes ~ But some People think the Democrats are whiter than white, when that cannot be further from the truth !
I feel sorry for the innocents that have their eyes opened at times like this !
It is indeed quite a strange privilege. I think we can safely say that American politics is dripping in corruption and has been for a very long time. This pardon business was arguably designed to get people off the hook.Quote:
Originally Posted by SkStu