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Originally Posted by the doc
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Does your attention ever wander from the Clark and Trapattoni related threads?Quote:
Originally Posted by the doc
Clark did have a poor game, or rather he oscillated between quality and amateur defending. He was the best of a bad bunch though - Baker was absolutely atrocious, particularly for the second goal.
Watched whole match and I didnt see this quality defending you mention.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
He oscillated between bad and terrible..
FFS they were playing against a 3rd division team and he looked poor.
We are all looking for quality players that can play for Ireland but Clark will be not one of them.
Clark had a stinker alright, but in fairness, he wasn't helped by playing with three other stooges.
He dealt with a few crosses quite well, but got mullered on some others. His distribution was quite good - considering he had nobody showing for the ball in midfield, his diagonal balls up to the strikers were all that was on and they were usually very accurate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Condex
On a serious note, this can't be good for Clarks confidence playing in a team thats poor in terms of quality and experience.
To be fair Clark needs a few experienced players around him to tell him when to go and when to stay in addition to cover for him when he goes missing through lack of experience.
He could do with taking a rest out if the side but not much chance of that with Villas lack of players available.
The worry now is that he may not recover from this experience, he's not a bad player, nowhere near the finished article and nowhere near as good as many on here make him out to be.
That's not his fault though, all players have bad games or a run of bad results, how they come back from them is the difference.
I hope he can rise above all this and get back to learning his trade without all the hype.
Many people make the mistake of thinking that every player in the Premiership are something special, some are but most aren't.
Vastly over rated league not helped by Sky constantly brainwashing everyone everyday telling us how good it is.
Who cares about that anyhow my main concern is our national team and our players so feck em!
4th Division team (and only 8th).Quote:
Originally Posted by Condex
The only positive of of a big negative is that Dunne could get a new contract as he is the obvious player to stabilise a very shaky defence. Clark was captain against Bradford and his confidence is too shaken for him to offer real leadership. Villa would also benefit from buying a tough, physical, experienced holding midfielder who could boss what was a very ineffectual midfield.Quote:
Originally Posted by the doc
Dunne likely won't play for Villa ever again.Quote:
Originally Posted by gastric
A holding midfielder is what Villa need most of all. No protection and no outlet other than hoofball for Clark.Quote:
Originally Posted by gastric
Then it's a ball-playing midfielder, not a holding midfielder, they need.
Clark can play midfield...
How about a ball-playing, holding midfielder?Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
how about a ball-holding playing-midfielder?
err, on second thoughts, maybe not
They need both, and 7 other new players in fairness. Clark can stay.
Is Clark predominantly left-footed? I thought he was and I notice he has been on the right side of the two centre halves. Now whatever about the old " 30k-a-week-should-be-able-to-kick-with-both-feet" argument, I always like to see a right sided centre back and a left sided centre back play on their stronger foot.
He is. Indeed, he has two left feet. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Kingdom
Focusing on the positives
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/21025949
There's been a lot of talk on the radio recerntly about Dunne being the player they are missing most and that his return in a few weeks will be very welcome.Quote:
Originally Posted by Colbert Report
Like this? We missed out iirc... :)Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
http://www.whoateallthepies.tv/wp-co...1/12/Gazza.jpg
The more I see him the more I have to agree with Doc unfortunately.
Positioning poor again tonight, no a leader (yet), very rash tackler...not the long term solution
Thought he was just like Beckenbauer in his pomp tonight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Manblue
Everyone eventually ends up agreeing with me in the end, I know my football and can spot a Dud when I see one!
I was impressed Clark was passing the ball tonight instead of aimlessly lumping it like the first leg, but once Bradford scored, all leadership was lost and he ended up pumping in endless diagonal balls to Bent and Benteke. Clark is a good, good player but he needs experienced players around him to talk to him because he's not making good decisions. Vlaar isn't that, and they badly need Dunne back.
Ironically, I think Clark would fare very well alongside a leader like the doc, if only he'd give him a chance.
I think Villa fans who watch him regularly should know more than we do about him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
http://www.heroesandvillains.info/fo....60#msg2240595
Just reading the latest page of that thread (page 5) and the criticism is pretty damning.
I found that forum somewhat crude.Quote:
Originally Posted by the doc
I'm sure you could find many threads from earlier in the season where they talk about how good he is. Club forums are generally quite fickle. When his form picks up the same people will be saying they never doubted him for a second.
Irrespective of his current or past form, a couple of fools here need to drop their needless agenda as it relates to him. Quite pathetic. Worse than the british tabloids...
Why is someone a fool if they have a different opinion to another poster?Quote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
Most people on here were making out he was they next Paul McGrath, when in reality he's just another Alex Bruce type of player.
Harsh but true!
Nobody was making that out. That is a figment of your imagination. Thereby, foolish, some would say.
Oh well enough of all this!
We have important qualifying games to win against Sweden and Austria, so lets get behind the boys in green.
I will be there giving it 100%
Will you?
Club forums aren't worth an absolute damn, imo, unless you find a poster who talks sense (very difficult when most of them have a gigantic amount of posters). The English team I support....for every ten people who'll say one thing, another ten will disagree with them. And this about pretty much EVERYTHING. They're madhouses. I look in on the Hibs one usually also. One week Paddy Fenlon is the greatest manager in Scotland and needs to be protected from being poached by an English club, the next his lot can't beat Ross County and he's out of his depth and not the man for the job.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
110%. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by the doc
He wont be there, but he will be giving it 110% Doc, thats what he is saying.
My life has reached an all time low... Paul O'Shea clarifies one of my posts... ;)
Yup. Trustworthy opinion. A bunch of flip flopping keyboard warriors most of whom watch MOTD or a thumbnail size choppy screen and would write Paul McGrath off after a poor game.Quote:
Originally Posted by the doc
Clark can play, even if he is inexperienced, raw and tottering on the deck of a sinking ship. Whether he's finished ala James McClean remains to be seen.
Shane Duffy's finished too now.Quote:
Originally Posted by SwanVsDalton
A case of the Kettle calling the Pot black here me thinks.Quote:
Originally Posted by SwanVsDalton
Aye yes the reported Preston fan that holds Villa and Leicester City season tickets. Life long Irish fan since 2009 to boot.Quote:
Originally Posted by the doc
Once they hit 21, they're a lost cause.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
I'm not the one submitting internet forums as 'Exhibit A' in the 'Ciaran Clark is Alex Bruce in disguise' argument.Quote:
Originally Posted by the doc