Probably true, but Idahs best game against Portugal is better than any of OgbenesQuote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
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Probably true, but Idahs best game against Portugal is better than any of OgbenesQuote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
That's probably fair, but it was his only good game, and the others kind of balance it out.
He was flagged in halftime analysis against Luxembourg as having a nightmare for example (particularly his first touch as I recall); came off after an hour at 0-0, and we went on to win 3-0.
Can honestly hardly remember a shot on target in his 12 caps, even against a tiring Andorra side.
I think Eirambler is right that he's a fringe squad option at the moment. We can't be blinded by regular caps in the past if there's better options coming through now
Most of his previous caps have come at the age of 19 and 20, I think we can allow a kid of that age to have room to learn. I've said already that I agree that he hasnt shown enough of a goal threat, but to me the game against Portugal shows what he could offer if he lives up to his potential. I've seen some of that in his last 4 starts for Norwich, so he may be getting there.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
I'd have him 4th in the pecking order of our strikers right now, with Ferguson, Obafemi and Parrott ahead of him. Parrott has a bit of work to do to get back in form too to be fair.
Yeah and his ceiling is much higher. Ogbene is not a central striker at international levelQuote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
I think 4th is too generous at the moment. What he's done at 19 and 20 is reason to remain hopeful, but long term prospects aren't grounds for decisions next month.Quote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
Bit harsh on Ogbene, IMO. He lurks like a central striker in the build up to this goal. Maybe I am biased - I like him a lot - he brings a lot of enthusiasm and is likeable and has scored an overhead kick at international level for Ireland.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aH4P5_XFNvk
I basing on that I think he's a better striker than the other options right now, not prospects.Quote:
Originally Posted by John83
I don't rate Robinson at all personally and I can't think of any other striker that would even be in the conversation. Ogbene is a wide play who looks out of place playing as a central striker, but he is a good option wide
Hogan, Keane and Kelly all have significantly better goals-per-minute records than Idah, and with weaker teams in the same division too. It would be silly to suggest they're not in the conversation.
Sykes looked lively in his cameo in Malta; can he play wide of the three?
Parrott is another who's dropping down the pecking order at present I think - and again, injuries haven't helped. I wouldn't have him third choice though.
And Robinson, for all his inconsistency, has a habit of rescuing Kenny at key times (though whether that's a good thing or not is a different question)
None of those are great options. But then neither is Idah. I think they're all definitely in the mix. A great big splodge of depressing mediocrity to select from.
Robinson is injured for next month anyway, I thought?
Recent hamstring injury has all but ruled him out I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by John83
If you think Idah is on the same level as Hogan, Keane and Georgie Kelly then I'm just gonna hold up my hands and say I couldn't disagree with you any stronger and move on.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Hogan + Keane (season 21/22, to date 22/23): 56 goals (30 Championship +26 L1). How high can you hold your hands as you move on?Quote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
That's what it comes down to for me too.
Neither Hogan nor Keane has translated that into international form (0 goals in 16 caps) but then neither has Idah (0 in 13).
The idea that they're not "even in the conversation" is nonsense
Pukki back in today, so Idah pushed out wide.
Another 90 minutes, but another blank in a 3-2 win
Per report, seems to have had a good game, well needed. Now he just needs a couple of goals…
I'm just happy Idah is getting minutes. The fact he's getting starts and now even 90 minutes is a massive bonus.
Hopefully he stays in the team for the rest of the season and helps them to the playoffs.
Another start today, but no goals again and subbed off for Sergeant at half-time. Will be interesting to see who starts next week if Sergeant is on the way back.
Didn’t play too bad, but didn’t impact the game at all. Norwich fans have him as a scapegoat at the moment, difficult time for him. Pukki played centrally with Idah out wide which does not suit him. Needs to keep the chin up and training hard
I think this lads ceiling was u21s football. There really has been very little outside of the u21 games to take notice of.
You might well be right (though he’s already a regular in the Championship after an unfortunate couple of injuries along the way) but let’s remember he just turned 22!
I know there’s a general sense from some that we’re far too positive on here (disillusioned even) about our young players but at the same time give the lad (and the other young fellas) a chance before consigning them to the junkyard!!