Indo Tomorrow- Special Report on what one LOI club owes its creditors.

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20/08/2008, 10:50 AM
jinxy lilywhite

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Originally Posted by The Rebel Ram

I firmly believe the sick people who leaked this and all the other stuff during the year are or were members of the comittee over the past while. They have been creaming off the top for themselves and now that they are being found out they are trying everything in their power to bring the club down.
The club is in debt and is having a serious cash flow at the minute but the debt can be managed and within a few years be written off with the right peope in place. We have those people in the club but it is the same 'leaks' IMO that are stopping them from getting into those positions to sort this crisis out.:mad:

You hit the nail on the head there. Can't pay debts without it.
If there was one thing that struck me in the indo article was that books where run on a voluntary status. That's just not good enough. Somebody needs to be there on a professional basis and responsible to control incomings and outgoings
20/08/2008, 11:01 AM
The Rebel Ram

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Originally Posted by jinxy lilywhite

You hit the nail on the head there. Can't pay debts without it.
If there was one thing that struck me in the indo article was that books where run on a voluntary status. That's just not good enough. Somebody needs to be there on a professional basis and responsible to control incomings and outgoings

We have people qualified to do the job volunteraly but 'certain' members do not want them there. We have had no treasurer in place for the past 2 months or so now. Let me just say it suits a few people that way:mad:
20/08/2008, 11:27 AM
jinxy lilywhite

ffs lads are ye running a football club or a social society.
20/08/2008, 11:46 AM
finnpark

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Originally Posted by The Rebel Ram

We have people qualified to do the job volunteraly but 'certain' members do not want them there. We have had no treasurer in place for the past 2 months or so now. Let me just say it suits a few people that way:mad:

:D

If the Indo knew you had not got a treasurer they would have a field day :D
20/08/2008, 11:48 AM
sadloserkid

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Originally Posted by pineapple stu

they owe fines (interesting that Limerick were earlier fined for not paying fines, but Cobh haven't been; what does that say about Limerick?)

That we're the innocent victims in all of this?

More seriously be quiet and leave us out of all this please, you have no idea how refreshing it is to watch all these financial bombs detonate and not see us leading the mad dash towards the precipice of doom for once! :)
20/08/2008, 11:52 AM
jinxy lilywhite

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Originally Posted by sadloserkid

That we're the innocent victims in all of this?

More seriously be quiet and leave us out of all this please, you have no idea how refreshing it is to watch all these financial bombs detonate and not see us leading the mad dash towards the precipice of doom for once! :)

I agree.
:p
We are looking at one of our most successful financial years ever (B/E which beggs of how much did we lose when we where winning everything). Sad thing is even the local newspapers don't publish that.
20/08/2008, 11:56 AM
Magicme

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Originally Posted by jinxy lilywhite

I agree.
:p
We are looking at one of our most successful financial years ever (B/E which beggs of how much did we lose when we where winning everything). Sad thing is even the local newspapers don't publish that.

Thats it jinxy, where are they with the positive news stories? No matter how much some clubs do busting their balls to make sure that they are on time with paperwork, pay their bills and continue to help the game develop in their area it doesnt get a mention.

:mad:
20/08/2008, 11:58 AM
Patrick Dunne

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Originally Posted by finnpark

I suspect that "creaming" occurs at a lot of clubs. I went to a Galway match once and got no ticket. Just had to pay a stewart 20 euro to get in. I doubt that money went to the club.

On what basis are you making this allegation ?
20/08/2008, 12:07 PM
SeanDrog

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Originally Posted by Macy

It makes a total farce of licencing and the 65% rule. The basis of exemptions was supposed to be on the basis on non-repayable donations to clubs from benefactors, but the FAI let clubs off with a bit of paper? Cork are/ were obviously peeing all over the 65% rule, without sanction from the FAI, whereas Galway and Sligo without the bit of paper were being punished. This is the great new era of FAI control with no fudges? Gavin and Delaney OUT.

Completely agree about it being a farce, I was curious all season as to how we had overcome the 65% cap and now low and behold it was a fudge - why am I not surprise.
20/08/2008, 12:17 PM
sadloserkid

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Originally Posted by Magicme

Thats it jinxy, where are they with the positive news stories?

Whatever about locally, for the national media it's just not news. Also I think the public expects their clubs to be run reasonably so there's no real positivity attached to the clubs that do that, anymore than you or I will win any praise today for getting through the day without falling over several times. Not necessarily fair or anything of the sort but 'Club X Are Well Run' just doesn't look a particularly intriguing headline to average person and ultimately, while they may pretend otherwise, virtually all mainstream media exists to make a profit and not to further the spread of information.
20/08/2008, 12:20 PM
sadloserkid

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Originally Posted by Patrick Dunne

On what basis are you making this allegation ?

On the basis that he didn't get a ticket I'd imagine. Which may not stand up in a court of law but then again, in this country...
20/08/2008, 12:23 PM
Patrick Dunne

foot.ie - judge, jury and executioner !
20/08/2008, 12:51 PM
monutdfc

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Originally Posted by Magicme

Thats it jinxy, where are they with the positive news stories? No matter how much some clubs do busting their balls to make sure that they are on time with paperwork, pay their bills and continue to help the game develop in their area it doesnt get a mention.

:mad:

As has been mentioned here before, one of the top PR Firms in the country is behind the All Ireland League plans. They know how the media works, and all the bad news is in the interest of their venture. I'm not saying they're behind all the bad news (if Clubs weren't overspending there'd be no bad news), but it would not surprise me if they were manipulating the press to some degree.
20/08/2008, 1:00 PM
kev mcq

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Originally Posted by Patrick Dunne

foot.ie - judge, jury and executioner !

Patrick Dunne - Blinkered Galway Utd supporter
20/08/2008, 1:24 PM
Magicme

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Originally Posted by sadloserkid

Whatever about locally, for the national media it's just not news. Also I think the public expects their clubs to be run reasonably so there's no real positivity attached to the clubs that do that, anymore than you or I will win any praise today for getting through the day without falling over several times. Not necessarily fair or anything of the sort but 'Club X Are Well Run' just doesn't look a particularly intriguing headline to average person and ultimately, while they may pretend otherwise, virtually all mainstream media exists to make a profit and not to further the spread of information.

True, just that sometimes the positive stuff at clubs beyond the day to day running go unnoticed or applauded but the slightest sniff of trouble and they are bateing down the doors.
20/08/2008, 2:04 PM
finnpark

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Originally Posted by Patrick Dunne

On what basis are you making this allegation ?

I gave a stewart 20 euro and I got in without buying a ticket. it was close to HT and no tickets were being sold.

Ive no idea what he did with that 20 euro.
20/08/2008, 2:08 PM
sadloserkid

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Originally Posted by finnpark

I gave a stewart 20 euro and I got in without buying a ticket. it was close to HT and no tickets were being sold.

Ive no idea what he did with that 20 euro.

To further muddy the waters my friend and I arrived at half-time at the Galway-Athlone game on Friday and just strolled in without paying. He wanted to go back and pay but I talked him around. :)
20/08/2008, 2:12 PM
finnpark

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Originally Posted by sadloserkid

To further muddy the waters my friend and I arrived at half-time at the Galway-Athlone game on Friday and just strolled in without paying. He wanted to go back and pay but I talked him around. :)

They can't be too stuck for cash then so. Looks like Galway have cash to throw away this year.
20/08/2008, 2:12 PM
monutdfc

You realise that this type of behaviour really mucks up the attendances thread.

Which reminds me, I attended they MUFC v Limerick game, but only stayed to half time. I have a season ticket. Do I count as 0, 0.5 or 1?
My 1 year old daughter was with me. She didn't pay and doesn't have a season ticket. She also left at half-time. Does she count as 0, 0.25, 0.5 or 1? Sorry to go OT
20/08/2008, 2:38 PM
bellavistaman

Oh ya there was 146.33 people attended the MUFC Limerick game..:eek::D
20/08/2008, 2:40 PM
Macy

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Originally Posted by monutdfc

Which reminds me, I attended they MUFC v Limerick game, but only stayed to half time. I have a season ticket. Do I count as 0, 0.5 or 1?
My 1 year old daughter was with me. She didn't pay and doesn't have a season ticket. She also left at half-time. Does she count as 0, 0.25, 0.5 or 1? Sorry to go OT

For the purposes of the attendance thread? You have a combined total of 25 for that game...
20/08/2008, 2:40 PM
passerrby

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Originally Posted by bellavistaman

Oh ya there was 146.33 people attended the MUFC Limerick game..:eek::D

and not one of them was creditors
20/08/2008, 9:46 PM
sadloserkid

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Originally Posted by monutdfc

You realise that this type of behaviour really mucks up the attendances thread.

I should add that I didn't go to the super away fans enclosure either but despite making my support for Athlone fairly vocally (they're basically a retirement home for Limerick players at this stage) there was not a bad word cast in my direction.
21/08/2008, 12:11 AM
HarpoJoyce

[QUOTE=sadloserkid;1003788]I should add that I didn't go to the super away fans enclosure either but despite making my support for Athlone fairly vocally (they're basically a retirement home for Limerick players at this stage) there was not a bad word cast in my direction.[/QUOTE

(I really wish you did not show the determination of the instructed Judges.)

It is very clear your determined support does not add up to one whole person. It is hoped that in future you make a more determined effort with regard to opposition players.
21/08/2008, 5:15 AM
SMorgan

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Originally Posted by jinxy lilywhite

Not much in the Cobh article to cry about.

I'd imagine that some companies would have been on the phone to Cobh first thing yesterday morning wanting to know why they were not on the list of creditors.
21/08/2008, 9:59 AM
sadloserkid

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Originally Posted by HarpoJoyce

It is hoped that in future you make a more determined effort with regard to opposition players.

Well on my previous trip to Terryland (Galway Vs. Cobh on a Monday a while back) there was no need for me to heap scorn or derision on Galway players because a knot of their own support did it instead. Current favourite Jay O'Shea had many, many cruel things said about him... outrageous I tell you! :)
21/08/2008, 10:40 AM
brianw82

Didn't buy a paper today. Any follow up on this article?
24/08/2008, 4:27 PM
Mr_Parker

Anyone got a link to the story?
25/08/2008, 12:18 AM
bellavistaman

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Originally Posted by Mr_Parker

Anyone got a link to the story?

Too late go away.:D;)
25/08/2008, 12:28 AM
kdjaC

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Originally Posted by Mr_Parker

Anyone got a link to the story?

http://i444.photobucket.com/albums/q...CREDITORS2.jpg

pretty much the gist of it.

kdjac
25/08/2008, 7:11 AM
SMorgan

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Originally Posted by kdjaC

http://i444.photobucket.com/albums/q...CREDITORS2.jpg

pretty much the gist of it.

kdjac

238 euro to unblock urinal?? Try banning chewing gum!!
:D
25/08/2008, 5:05 PM
bellavistaman

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Originally Posted by SMorgan

238 euro to unblock urinal?? Try banning chewing gum!!
:D

Tells ya the amount of sh!t floating around our club lad.:D
25/08/2008, 9:07 PM
Mr_Parker

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Originally Posted by kdjaC

http://i444.photobucket.com/albums/q...CREDITORS2.jpg

pretty much the gist of it.

kdjac

Thanks

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