Yeah, he should have seen the aforementioned comment coming.
In general, any interviews by TG4 are done pitchside at the final whistle, and it's the first time i've seen such an incident occur.
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Yeah, he should have seen the aforementioned comment coming.
In general, any interviews by TG4 are done pitchside at the final whistle, and it's the first time i've seen such an incident occur.
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Originally Posted by Conor H
Which is a hell a lot more than the FAI did.
The €300 fine is a sad joke which sends out a message that racism is tolerated.
Agree, the FAI should have either done nothing - accepting the fact that Galway united apologised to player and club - or if they were going to draw attention to the incident with a fine it needed to be a hefty one. One which Sligo can definitely do without of course in their current financial circumstances - maybe this formed part of the reasoning behind the paltry fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by SMorgan
Not making any excuses but i would imagine it's only E300 as it was one individual and not a section of the support.Quote:
Originally Posted by SMorgan
Nevertheless we were lucky to only get fined E300.
If the comment came from where the ultras/casuals/whatever you want to call them, usually stand in Terryland then I find it hard to believe that there isn't one GUST member who doesn't know who said it to be honest. I've always said that it's mostly down to a club's supporters to keep each other in check, when that doesn't happen the club get disgraced, and I'm pretty certain that if GUST made their own enquiries into this incident they'd be able to find who said it.
No the comment came from a group of teenagers that were not recognised by anyone from GUFC or the Trust.Quote:
Originally Posted by jebus
Fully agree with you Jebus but rest assured if any semi-intelligent GUFC supporter had heard any such abuse they would have dealt with the individual themselves.
The tape has been viewed numerous times and unfortunately nobody could be identified.
Also UTD do not have a casual group and along with every other club in the country bar Rovers we do not have an Ultra group.
Fair enough, although it's debatable as to whether the Rovers Ultras even count as a proper Ultras group to be honest, although I agree that they are the best candidates from Ireland for that mantle*Quote:
Originally Posted by Conor H
*(I assume we're talking about the proper Rovers from Dublin here as well)
Chrsyt yes.Shamrock Rovers are "Rovers".Quote:
Originally Posted by jebus
Time for a real Rovers fan to step in,jebus you are underestimating alot of ultra groups in Ireland.F45U,SRFC Ultras and the two groups in Derry are very active and colourfull groups
F45u ?
There from Drogheda and they are mostly thickQuote:
Originally Posted by Patrick Dunne
This has gone off on a tangent. Can we close it please Mods?
No, let's just bring it back on topic.Quote:
Originally Posted by gufcfan
300 is a joke. FAI really need to cop on with their decisions.
Granted the club should get fined but they are already fooked for cash, and as has been noted the club has tried everything they could to find the culprit and realistically it is hard to hold the club inself responsible for one or two idiots remarks.
300 euro is pretty weak but in the crcumstances lets just live with it
Jeff Kenna used the term "potential banana skin" in an interview tonight on MNS.
Every club at one time or another has had similar incidents so people should get of their high horse.
We all know we have d1ckheads at our clubs so we must keep up what we are doing to keep racism out of our league.
BTW This is the new stand for UCD fans when they travel to away games to make sure they are segregated.
http://www.fotosearch.com/IGS570/is920-082/
Don't agree Galway should be fined a lot of money because of a couple of wasters.
Could have been any of our clubs.We all have 2/3 of them hanging around just looking for something stupid to do.
I agree where possible, culprits should be named and shamed.
The voice of reason.Quote:
Originally Posted by cheifo
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Originally Posted by Patrick Dunne
Such a racist bast***
I am in no way defending the person who said the racist comment. but i can bet a lota money, the majority of people here,who have posted comments in some time of their life has laughed at/or told some sort of racist joke.(thats different is it? i dont think so.)
is it ok if the actual person who is at the blunt of the joke doesnt hear it?
dont try and come on here and say no, u never have.
it was discraceful from the galway supporter. but there are clowns out there who are like that.
Hummmmm fair comment , as it is said . For he who is without sin cast the first stone ................Quote:
Originally Posted by beepbeep
You should become a spokesman for 'Let's Kick Racism Out' :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by beepbeep
Whoever made that remark should be banned from attending future games. Hopefully the club will take this seriously and act accordingly. Only then will we know whether the fine is appropriate or not.
First of all to beepbeep, a joke is a joke and it's very purpose is to get a laugh? if that maybe making fun of a sterotype then there is no harm because it is mocking a generalisation and stereotype that shouldn't exist anyway? Therefore if equality is indeed well and good in a modern society then mocking a generalisation should not be as offensive as people make them out to be.
Secondly (and back on topic) to those who claim not to know who shouted out? I am assuming that people have watched the video, Shortly after the the racist abuse the group of galway united supporters start singing "galway united" towards the end of mauro's interview which makes me think all the GUFC supporters came down to the end to make themselves heard as the interviews were done. I am no P.I but im sure their are some here alone who know who the culprit is, their is NO excuse for racism and it would not be tolerated anywhere else by any other group of supporters! Those who know and do nothing are as bad as those who shouted the abuse and their is no justification for shouting the racist abuse or keeping quiet!!
The only way you could single out someone is by their voice and ive listened to it 10 times and I have my suspicions who it is but there is no way it can be proven. There was no stewards on that side of the ground as we were dealing with the Sligo fans some of whom had been taken aside by the Gardai so unfortunately we couldnt hear or see what was going on and the first I heard of this was almost a month later when I came back from my holidays.
There is a group of youngsters (boys and girls younger than 16) attaching themselves to our home support who dont give a toss about the game and are full of bravado so id say most of the laughing was those twits although the clown who made the first reference sounds to be older.
You make it sound as if it is being tolerated at GUFC. If people knew who it was then maybe something could be done. Even if people have suspicions about who it was it is still very difficult to prove anything from a recording of a voice.Quote:
Originally Posted by celticV3
There are people like this idiot at ALL clubs and in all walks of life. Unfortunately GUFC were unlucky enough to have this idiot tarnish the name of the club on national television. I'd love to see him get a life ban but when it comes to dishing out life bans some concrete evidence is needed or people could easily start accusing others of things they had no part of.
Of course every club has it's idiots and it only takes a split second for someone to do something like this that can reflect bad on all supporters, but the thing that worries me was that their was a huge amount of supporters singing straight away after the abuse surely someone heard and saw something?
€300 is an absolute joke Galway United need to be made an example of and punished severely nothing less then a 5k fine and possible point’s deduction unless they find the $cum responsible and give them a life time ban. None of the usual PR rubbish from Galway saying we can’t find the ones responsible. If Galway United were threatened with a heavier penalty they wouldn’t be half as long finding out whom the perpetrators were there were plenty of witnesses to this vile act of ignorance. These “supporters” should stand up and identify this $cum if they don’t they are no better. And before Galway fans get on my back if it was our supporters who did this to a Galway player I would expect the same punishment for us.
No excuse for racism
Ah will you grow up, a points deduction, for the love of God. It was disgusting that some gobs.hite shouted what he did, the morons who laughed were equally disgusting, but you can't deduct points from a side because some idiots chose to prove that humankind has a nasty side to it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Red Army
By all means increase the fine - personally I think it is far too low, but it is not just in Ireland that the fines handed out for racist abuse are very low, it is the same in Serie A, which has a far worse racism problem, clubs barely to go past the change in their pockets to meet the fines handed out. That is not to excuse what is a paltry fine, but merely explains its level within the world of sports fines
Sadly I think this part of your post reflects the knuckle dragging neanderthal attuide amoung some of your support. I never said Galway should get deducted points but it should considerered very seriously by the FAI if GUFC aren’t seen to be serious about banning those responceable it’s not that hard to find out who did it loads of withness were there and if the are Galway supporters then they should come forward.Quote:
Originally Posted by WoodquayBoy
Racism should be delt with severly by the FAI if they a serious about the against racism campain they run otherwise they are only payinng lip service. A hardline approcah most be taken no matter how “small” the incident was
the majority of people had left the ground by the time the interview took place and the club as well as Gust have made extensive enquiries into the matter but have unfortunately not been able to nab anyone. I have heard United Players subjected to far worse concerted racist abuse in numeous of el grounds around the country by a groups of fans rather than 1 clown.
I am not condoning what happened but some of the posters on here are just usung this to blacken the name of galway united and all its supporters.
Save your mock outrage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Red Army
Rather than being genuinely concerned about racism in football I think it's fairly clear that you are just using this to score points. Which is sad.
Look i think it is stupid for GUFC to be deducted points? It was hardly the players or the people behind the scenes of the club that were shouting this abuse therefore it cannot be them that has to pay for the stupidity of these fans.
Again though what i would say is that at the end of the video those who had stayed behind after the game and were cheering their team as the manager was doing his interview and were singing at the end of mauro's interview must have say something?
Sorry but that's just stupid. How many stewards were there that night? Ye needed them all over with us because the guards were "dealing with" two Rovers fans was it?:rolleyes: Maybe their weren't stewards beside GUFC fans, I can't remember but don't try and pass it off that they weren't there because they were dealing with us.Quote:
Originally Posted by gufct
Poor stewarding are the words you're looking for.
Don't get me wrong I would ban the scumbag for life but you can't ban someone on the possibility that maybe it was them or on some rumour. You would have to have some sort of concrete evidence either caught on film or caught by someone in a position of some authority with the club.
If any of the lads here knew without a shadow of a doubt who it was I think they would tell someone connected to the club but again it would come down to a case of one word against another.
No. It. Shouldn't. As I said, that is plain stupid. Carry it through to its (il)logical conclusion - deduct points from clubs whose fans taunt Derry for having a queen. That is racism, so why not deduct them points. Go bacl through footagr of the Love Ulster riot and confirm people there in Celtic and Irish jerseys. Then deduct points from them in SPL and next World/Euro qualifying campaign as their actions stemmed from racism.Quote:
Originally Posted by Red Army
By all means increase the fine 10 fold, but again, to suggest a points deduction suggests it is you who needs to put Elastoplasts on the knuckles, not I
The sign above one of the first turnstile you come to outside the ground, written in capital letters in maroon writing on a white background on a sign about 1ftx2.5ftft which read 'AWAY' wasn't a big enough hint for you? And I thought college students were supposed to be a brainy lot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Schumi
Hi all, just read this tread tonight. I was at the game along with an under 10 team as guests of GUFC and were seated in the new stand. I was beside the said group as the interviews were taking place which started with abuse being fired at Paul Cook as he spoke to the TG4 guy, something along the lines of "Paul Cook is a w%#*$r". "F%k off back to liverpool" Seemed to be late teens,early twenties and I can tell you it was more than one person shouting. Group numbered about 10 to 12.
Was there for Maurio interview and was disgusted by the comment, afterwards they left shouting "United, United". They were up in the top of the new stand and were singing for the whole game.
I have good time for GUFC and had actually commented during the match what great vocal support they were giving during the game.
Would have to agree that the lack of stewarding on that side of the ground was maybe a factor.
As for suggesting that TG4 should conduct interviews somewhere else I can only suggest that their transmission feed equipment was down that end of the ground.
I find it difficult that no one can identify anyone from the group as they seemed to be regular supporters of GUFC.
Fine should be higher but as already stated every club has its lunatics, we have all seen them amongst our own home supporters.
There are digital CCTV cameras inside and outdside Terryland. I don't watch games from the new Corrib Stand so I don't know if there are cameras there.
For what it's worth, I saw a so called GUFC fan chant monkey sounds at Sligo striker Mike Small many years ago (when was that?) in the Showgrounds. A middle aged gentleman tapped the the idiot on the shoulder and told him to "get the f*** out...". That's how to deal with it. Fight fire with fire.
Too right!Quote:
Originally Posted by Paddyfield