Bohs on Saturday

I'm embarassed to be reading this **** about, rebel ram john meade was in the team the other night, so there goes that. As for carey being dropped its a big decision and just cause people on this who single carey and meade out weekly say it, doesnt mean its right for the team as such.

As for sacking hendo, dont be so stupid, how many people have said it on this before hes the best manager weve ever had and how would sacking him answer any problem. Damien Richardson my ******, were struggling financially so we take on a manager who will demand 3 times hendos money and realistically will offer us nothing extra.

Bella he was dropped for the last 2 games because the manager had an issue with him.

It cost us in the Bray Game in my opinion which was the game we should have won. I never said Hendo should be sacked what I was saying is bring someone in to try and help him get the best out of the players for the rest of the season.

I also think hendo has lost the dressing room with his antics the last few weeks and that is going to be hard to turn around so someone new looking at things might be good!!

I am tring to think of solutions because we need something to spark this team in to life!!

Bella Just for the record I dont think hendo has been the best manager rams have had!!

If he keeps us up this season that may change.

Was away the last week it seems i missed a fair bit on the pitch but the only positives im hearin are the sunderland luncheon which was suppose to be a cracker,that game was never goin to be a sellout anyway coz of pricing but surely the club made something off it.As for this talk about the manager i think hes a bit too good to let go,maybe G.Mellerick to add a bit of belief might be handy having him around??? As for Carey ive said it b4 he is going through a messy patch and needs to be dropped its different with the goalkeeper we really have no competition for him.J meade is fine its hard to get a good left footer and he is fairly consistant.

I was at the game friday night and to read this **** would make you sick does anybody else realise what we were up against a full time team with bags of quality , they were able to leave joxer kelly on the bench . as for hendo losing the dressing room bullsh8t the performance of the team in the 1st half was outstanding and for long periods we had boes on the back foot if a manager had lost the dressing room they wouldnt have even bothered. As for bringing in rico what a load of crap bringen in a man who would demand louds of money and do fook all and wouldnt give a ****e what happens at the end of the day dont think so. We have a manager who is passionate about this football club, why would we get rid of him thats just stupid . Nobody is more hurt by our position right now then Hendo so instead of spreading doubt about the man get behind him and he will make this club a success. As for carey and Bilko r14 its obious you have something against them your going on snippets you saw on tv3 and heard from pat mcauliffe your as bad as roddy, Carey played very well friday night his distribution was outsatnding he started move after move yet you say he needs to be droped your commenting on a game you didnt even see and Bilko kept us in the game in the 1st half and was very unlucky not to keep the peno out even the boes fans I spoke to after the game were saying how good he was incl the outstanding save from anto murphy . The lads gave it there all friday night and as a fan i cant ask for any more and i have no doubt in my mind were here to stay beat harps and galway and were right back in the mix after that rovers and ucd at home pick up a coupe of points along the road and were safe

rose tinted glasses there 20, ive been to all home games a few away games, and ive seen bilko cost us a few points and carey even more, i wont coment on bohs as i havent seen it, but if they played better im happy that there starting to play, but carey was terrible the previous 5 games, constantly missing, poor distribution, no decision making, bilko was the same although he looked better the last 2 games, same as davin, ill have to wait for derry to see if carey is doing better, but judgeing on the last time a saw carey he shouldnt have been in the first team,

Passion is not getting him very far!! I would rather have a Manger who can Manage then a Manger with passion. We all have passion thats why we pay our good money every week.

Just to point out we are bottom of the league. We have 2 wins out of 21 game not exactly staying up form.

While lots of people will keep on the rose tinted glasses now is the time to add some experience to the backroom team to try and keep us up as in a few weeks time it might be to late.

I just said Damien Richardson as he has done it at the top level. It could be someone else just as easy who could add some experience to try and keep us up. If hendo was able we would be safe by now he just lacks the experience for the higher level.

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Originally Posted by ramblers

Passion is not getting him very far!! I would rather have a Manger who can Manage then a Manger with passion. We all have passion thats why we pay our good money every week.

Just to point out we are bottom of the league. We have 2 wins out of 21 game not exactly staying up form.

While lots of people will keep on the rose tinted glasses now is the time to add some experience to the backroom team to try and keep us up as in a few weeks time it might be to late.

I just said Damien Richardson as he has done it at the top level. It could be someone else just as easy who could add some experience to try and keep us up. If hendo was able we would be safe by now he just lacks the experience for the higher level.

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I would class a manager who won the first division on the lowest budget in the league as being a manager who can manage.

Clearly i have ful confidence in hendo and you dont, were just goping to have to agree to disagree.

The reason he had a low budget was he threw away all the money the year before when he had one of the highest budgets in the league!!

were not here to go on about that stuff, hendo is the man to get us out of it, but he has to make though decsions, he is no worse than any other manager in the league, if you have the resources you can do anything, spending the money the year previous caused a situation where only players with a love for the club would stay for so little money, and got rid of the deadwood, and 12 months later we were a premier division team,

hendo has though decsions to make and he will be judged on where we end up at the end of the season not 2/3 of the way through it

The highlights on MNS were interesting. Bilko gave away the first goal, Murray the second and the centre backs the third.

School boy errors for all of them.

poor enough alright:(

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Originally Posted by ramsfan

poor enough alright:(

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Told ya:cool::D

just watched it again how the hell was bilko beaten at his near post for bohs first and god alone knows what murraythought he was doing when he gave away the penalty??????????

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Originally Posted by ramsfan

god alone knows what murraythought he was doing when he gave away the penalty??????????

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Thought he was playing with Pirates maybe????:rolleyes: or maybe he was trying to save Bilko the embarrassment of being beaten at his near post again????:rolleyes:

[quote=bellavistaman;994296]I would class a manager who won the first division on the lowest budget in the league as being a manager who can manage.

Have to agree with Bella , be realistic athlone have a bigger budget this season then we do. The next few weeks will tell alot and then ye can all jump ship again when hendo keeps us up

Read some of the other Clubs promotional ideas here

****ing beats me why we can't be organised like this when it comes to promoting the club. No wonder we fall behind. :mad:

i am not sayin this to stir but do we still have a cpo is marco still with us just havent seen him at games for a while or he hasnt been heard of for a while:ball:

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i am not sayin this to stir but

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Having to 'Tippy-Toe' around as well in case of upsetting people is another annoying ****ing thing and I ain't doing it any longer. I think Marco may be on holidays because I'm not getting any response from him either, but regardless of that, other clubs are still miles ahead of us in terms of their promoting tactics.

well be honest we have had this argument before someone is employed to do promotions so it is up to them to bring forward ideas and carry them out

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Originally Posted by ramsfan

i am not sayin this to stir but do we still have a cpo is marco still with us just havent seen him at games for a while or he hasnt been heard of for a while:ball:

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Just because you haven't seen me doesn't mean that I wasn't at the matches... get the facts right first plz.

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Originally Posted by luka

Read some of the other Clubs promotional ideas here

****ing beats me why we can't be organised like this when it comes to promoting the club. No wonder we fall behind. :mad:

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Before you go spouting off, go ask the clubs what budget they were given to do promotions..., because I have no ****ing budget, I use a shop that's for sale, 5 road signs sponsored and 4 that weren't paid by the club, match posters are done by myself, & 1 person to put them out when he turns up. We have a supporters club which is made up of supporters club members, who number about 20 at most & they are tied up with what they do. And as you well know Luka when it comes to being organised it's allways very handy to have one or two people helping out with something that you are trying to do...

It ****ing beats me too Luka when someone like you that is involved with the club, go on this forum spouting ****, and others speak about Hendo as if the guy has done **** all, most of you have been to all the games and you have seen the amount of ****e luck the team has had, yes some need to put there hand up & admit there not up to the Premier Division, but I wonder how many Bohs, Pats or City players must first put in a days work & then go training, using up holidays etc so they can travel to away games. As for the Sunderland game those on the commitee gave up there free time( & some more) to get that day sorted, and they done a bloody good job, It's very easy to sit behind a keyboard and be judgemental. Bet ya if I asked for volenteers to do stewarding on Sat night how many would turn up?? The very same few all the time.
So Luka maybe you might like the CPO role, work on your todd, with no money to do anything & see how far you will go;)

sorry now what aload of bull, you get paid ,easy to slag people off as far as i know luka does site for free, and it is an easy target to pick on volunteers who give up free time.

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Originally Posted by Marco

Just because you haven't seen me doesn't mean that I wasn't at the matches... get the facts right first plz.

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never said you werent at matches just sayin we hadnt heard much from you lately thats all .

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Originally Posted by ramsfan

sorry now what aload of bull, you get paid ,easy to slag people off as far as i know luka does site for free, and it is an easy target to pick on volunteers who give up free time.

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Luka has been doing and excellant job with the site, PA, and other stuff, thats not the point, the point he made was about promotion & why we cant do what everyone else does, answer is simple really, people don't give a **** about the club. Where are the thousand or so fans who went to Athlone, or have you ever seen local people pass the ground on match night & ask how the game is going but not bother to step inside and see for themselves? There is only so much you can do on the cheap/free. Derry are in town this w/end & where will everyone be .... in the pubs.

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Originally Posted by ramsfan

i am not sayin this to stir but do we still have a cpo is marco still with us just havent seen him at games for a while or he hasnt been heard of for a while:ball:

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Fair enough ... :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Marco

Derry are in town this w/end & where will everyone be .... in the pubs.

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and is there some initiative being undertaken to draw the people out of the pubs????????..................NO!, typical Ramblers!:(

This is the first time in years that Rams have had a home game the weekend of the regatta and luckily in my opinion we are playing against the team with the best travelling support in the league and they will come down here, they will spend money and add an extra atmosphere to the regatta and to the match. Not to mention the fact that the Derry team will probably stay over night too.


Once again this club miss out on a potential money spinner and then people wonder why were broke and begging members for €2000!
All we needed was one hook that could drag the people up from town for 90 mins but what do we do instead???.................we sleep!


The match is on Saturday, that means there's 4 days to think of something that could drag in an extra punter or two!
Any ideas???- I was thinking of something along the lines of a match ticket + 2 free pints?

Luka vs Marco, in a ring, 3 rounds, all funds raised go to the club, now there is a fundraising idea!!!!!

Here we go. Tippy -Toeing around again. My intention wasn't to have a go at anyone particular person and I don't have time to comment on these issues now as I'm running out the door and have to be somewhere at 9. Get a life Marco FFS. The whole World is not against you and you should try to read between the lines before having a dig at me. Less dramatics I say. Less dramatics.

Are ye all mad?? Why the **** are ye all havin a pop at each other?? Marco and Luka both do heaps towards the club and deserve nothin but praise for it. Marco is given a budget and has to work within it - it doesn't matter how many good ideas he has if doesn't have the funds to implement them. And Luka does his bit for nothin.

If anyone has a problem with promoting the club, get down there and get to work on it yerselves, or put up the cash to let Marco get on with it. Don't be coming on here havin a dig. :mad:

Our problems are apathy and image. The average Joe in town will sit on a bar stool and talk/bitch about Ramblers all night but will only show up once a season at most. Meanwhile, there are a few lads tryin to keep the ship afloat while the name of the club is dragged into the dirt by childish politics and bitchin caused by a small minority who can't face the fact that they're not in charge any more. The Supporters Club barely even exists! (I know the work they do is very valuable but it ain't a proper Supporters Club, so please change the name)

I can't give answers to the problems, some of them relate to personal/family vendettas that go back decades. Maybe the club needs a whole new start to modernise it - new constitution, shareholders, Board of Directors (not a committee!!), new image, full-time General Manager, god forbid even a new name!! Anything to rid us of the bull*** that's held us back so long...

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Are ye all mad?? Why the **** are ye all havin a pop at each other?? Marco and Luka both do heaps towards the club and deserve nothin but praise for it. Marco is given a budget and has to work within it - it doesn't matter how many good ideas he has if doesn't have the funds to implement them. And Luka does his bit for nothin.

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Aye no point arguing with each other lads as I don't think there's a right and wrong in this. Can see both your points but as has been said, there's only so much Marco can do within his budget and without man power. Luka made a decent point about utilising the website more, surely that can be taken on board though...

Here's an idea right. Because the Club CPO's budget is so small to operate as effeciantly as other clubs them why not organise some sort of fundraiser(s) to generate cash towards helping the CPO operate more efficiantly. It can't be that hard to organise something, I mean we already have a large enough venue for it. I'd be willing to give my time to help organise something.

i think there are bigger issues we need to prioritise at the moment.

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Originally Posted by bellavistaman

i think there are bigger issues we need to prioritise at the moment.

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It really depends on which way you look at it Bella. If the CPO has funds to perform more efficiantly then naturally he would be in more of a position to attempt to being in more people to games. I'm not in the know when it comes to the Club's financial matters because quite frankly it's none of my concern. I was informed we were all getting a letter about the €2000 thing. I'm still waiting, but the point I'm making here, or trying to make, whichever way you look at it is, the CPO needs funds. Should a cut of the Sunderland finances be afoarded him? I don't see why not or cut the CPO's job altogether and put that wage to use in other areas, but who promotes the Club then? I really don't see anyone doing his job for free do you?

God no, i just feel myself at this moment in time there is more important things we need to spend money on.

Getting the house in order being no.1 IMO.

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Getting the house in order being no.1 IMO.

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Agree 100% with you. The house needs to be put in order from the top right down. People need to realise what their actual role is at the club by my saying 'do it' I mean do it correctly and stick to it. If people can't perform then goodbye. That's my attitude anyway.

How many of you on here knew before I drew attention to this that Marco has naff all of a budget to work with? Not many I bet. Issue like these need to be brought out, dealt with correctly and closed out in a proper manner that enables all to move forward with the best intentions of the club at heart. It's all very well for us to natter about it here but does anyone actually take any notice of the good things and ideas that are spoken about here or is it the usual case of, 'Nah. I'm not going with that 'cause I didn't think of it' attitude.

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Originally Posted by luka

It really depends on which way you look at it Bella. If the CPO has funds to perform more efficiantly then naturally he would be in more of a position to attempt to being in more people to games. I'm not in the know when it comes to the Club's financial matters because quite frankly it's none of my concern. I was informed we were all getting a letter about the €2000 thing. I'm still waiting, but the point I'm making here, or trying to make, whichever way you look at it is, the CPO needs funds. Should a cut of the Sunderland finances be afoarded him? I don't see why not or cut the CPO's job altogether and put that wage to use in other areas, but who promotes the Club then? I really don't see anyone doing his job for free do you?

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it comes back to forward thinking, bar manager, cpo and press officer should be one person and one wage , its not man u surely one man/woman could cope with work load, one wage instead of 2/3 and immediately then you remove the "thats not my area " crap, one man one voice and one person who can be held accountable

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Agree 100% with you. The house needs to be put in order from the top right down. People need to realise what their actual role is at the club by my saying 'do it' I mean do it correctly and stick to it. If people can't perform then goodbye. That's my attitude anyway.

How many of you on here knew before I drew attention to this that Marco has naff all of a budget to work with? Not many I bet. Issue like these need to be brought out, dealt with correctly and closed out in a proper manner that enables all to move forward with the best intentions of the club at heart. It's all very well for us to natter about it here but does anyone actually take any notice of the good things and ideas that are spoken about here or is it the usual case of, 'Nah. I'm not going with that 'cause I didn't think of it' attitude.

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I think we all knew because he has said it here on numerous occasions.

I think the attitude you speak of is slowly fading away too, people are coming together to work hard and raise cash for the club.
But back to what we we discussing i just feel, and its only my opinion that there are more important things at the moment that we need to put money into than the CPO side of it.

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Originally Posted by ramsfan

it comes back to forward thinking, bar manager, cpo and press officer should be one person and one wage , its not man u surely one man/woman could cope with work load, one wage instead of 2/3 and immediately then you remove the "thats not my area " crap, one man one voice and one person who can be held accountable

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total nonsense RF, how in gods name could one person do those three jobs, maybe you could link the cpo with the press job but then putting in the bar manager is not feasible due to the nature of that kind of work. If you did mix the 3 jobs you would have someone working 90 hours a week at least, press officer not paid by the way and she is doing a damn fine job IMO

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Originally Posted by 6yardpunisha

press officer not paid by the way and she is doing a damn fine job IMO

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Oh that she is, totally voluntary, prob hasnt received one pat on the back, gets no credit at EGM/AGMs and so what. Were lucky she not in it for the praise or spotlight or she'd be well gone. Having seen her at work i'd have nothing but praise for her. BTW before ye start i know nobody was questioning her, just when i seen the role mentioned thought she deserved a bit of praise.:)