Great stage today by the looks of the updates, if anyone was thinking of giving the highlights a miss!
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Great stage today by the looks of the updates, if anyone was thinking of giving the highlights a miss!
Was watching on Eurosport via JustinTV to the bottom of the Hautacamp, and had to go to a meeting - just read the updates on getting in - sounded as good as the third or fourth last Giro stage this year - the really great one. Anyone any clue where I might be able to watch the highlights online tomorrow morning while pretending to be working?Quote:
Originally Posted by Macy
BTW for those who can access it, TG4 stream it live
It's blocked in work, but cyclingnews.com are advertising highlights - no idea whether it's any good. Try ITV as well. No broadband at home, and everything's locked down in work...Quote:
Originally Posted by Bluebeard
yesterdays stage nearly got me fired...as i spent most of afternoon hitting the canteen with the flat screen for ever more spurious reasons...great stage tho.
****!!!! Forgot we had a tv in the canteen...Quote:
Originally Posted by Billsthoughts
New Station: Eurosport HD - Ch 412 on Sky: Should be great to watch it in HD.
From my observations and maybe you lot too, I think Ricco looks quite comfortable when he was with Menchov, Evans, Sastre etc. Also with Peipoli and Cobo looking strong on Monday and previous stage, Saunier Duval look to best team in the mountains and I think that help Ricco to gain some time before the dreaded 2 time trials.
Ricco was ridiculously comfortable in the Pyranees but he has stated he "knows" he can't win the tour this year. He said on Monday that he would do everything for Piepoli to win that day, and sure enough...Quote:
Originally Posted by TheBoss
However in the short time trial he lost 3 minutes so who knows what he'll lose on the longer TT
another positive doping test today...Moisés Dueñas (I think.)
Young guy this time, only 27. He's also Spanish, so the toungues will wag, especially seeing as how Operacion Puerto was handled by Spanish authorities.Quote:
Originally Posted by Billsthoughts
One guy on another site (can't remember which one) suggests that its a little suss that there haven't been a few more caught, and implied a cover up.
Meanwhile, apparently an Irish guy, David McCann, is second in the Tour of Qinghai Lake. Anyone here heard of him before?
Well, I'd say there was a huge sigh of relief when a couple of "favourite" from another spanish team were shot out the back on the Tourmalet... The Saunier Duval performances also raise eyebrows, but it's good that some of the teams that are clearly anti-doping are doing well - Columbia, Garmin & CSC all do lots of independent testing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bluebeard
I doubt it - sure they're flagging it as a success.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bluebeard
McCann has been around a long time, iirc he's ridden a lot in America, but I could be mistaken (as there were a few other Irish riders out there)Quote:
Originally Posted by Bluebeard
I thought that he'd retired!Quote:
Originally Posted by Macy
(I also though he was called Daniel McCann for some reason - wiki suggests otherwise:o)
Ricco just tested positive. A right pain as I'd really enjoyed watching him in the tour. Better that he's caught though, but still, a body really does feel cheated by him, having been so elated on his "triumph".:mad:
Saunier Duval have withdrawn as a result, so the KOM falls to Sebastian Lang who finished yesterday ranked third in that category. De La Fuente and Piepoli must be enraged to a great degree.
FFS. Really enjoyed his win last weekend. :mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by Bluebeard
Not really much of a surprise, considering their dominance in the mountains. That type of performance as to Hautacam raises eyebrows, so it's a good thing that he was positive. Also good that the test picked up 3rd generation EPO. The way they dominated all the mountain stages wasn't good for the image. Naturally high heamocrit me arse. btw I think that's the third targetted test that has resulted in a non-negative result.
It is just annoying to see a talented rider have to do this, I was really impressed like many but this justs questions you own judgement about it.
Just in case any of us had faith in Piepoli's win, apparently he's been sacked by Saunier Duval, along with Ricco, for doping practices.:mad:
It really is heartbreaking stuff...
BTW Dave McCann rode the Road Race for the North a few years ago. Raced in Asia and I think won stages on Tour de Langkawi (or possibly Korea). Won the national championship a couple of times too I think
No non-negative yet, but admitted to the team manager after Ricco was busted apparently. Cobo so far appears to be clean, but remains to be seen. I've no time for the managers that say they trusted the riders - they could all be implementing testing like CSC, Columbia and Garmin and be sure. It's good that Dan Martin is with one of the clean teams.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bluebeard
Another great stage yesterday, pity Menchov crashed when he launched the attack. Probably better for Evans to be out of yellow - he simply doesn't have the team to defend it. Interesting how CSC play it - they've so many options...
It was an interesting stage and exiting stage, You did not expect what happened, and I think the same will happen again on Tuesday.
The world drugs tour still making the news?
Yep, welcome to the threadQuote:
Originally Posted by Soko
No thats the Heineken Cup your thinking of...Quote:
Originally Posted by Soko
I think he's just a few months to late Euro 2008.Quote:
Originally Posted by Billsthoughts
Have many rugby and football players tested positive for drugs in the recent years? I've been away
How extensive is the testing in Football & Rugby, compared to cycling? If you don't look, you won't find.
I meant to post this the other day. Not much point starting a new thread for it and as EPO is the main drug concerned I think it's fairly relevant. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7516484.stm
Basically the article presents evidence that some labs are ignoring positive EPO results.
Macy is on the mark, very few tests are taking place in football, slightly more in Rugby. Seeing as you ask this should give youQuote:
Originally Posted by Soko
some answers.
Maybe cycling should stop looking so because that sport has become a farce. Leave them all at it and see what chemist wins
Or maybe people that aren't interested should just butt out if they not interested and stick to the sports that don't test. Then they can carry on in ignorant bliss thinking all is fine, dandy and clean.Quote:
Originally Posted by Soko
You're right, I am not interested but that's because it has become a joke of an event. The worst part about it seems to be entirely down to the riders for ruining for the sport. Their blatant disregard continually for the rules has reduced the tour to a minor story bar drug test announcements.
Rugby and football do test actually. How many top line players have tested positive for performance enhancing drugs in football and rugby in recent memory?
They don't test to same extent. ffs cortisone is a badge of honour in football :rolleyes:
Cycling in a funny way does the best possible testing, the numbers of drug users has dramatically dropped and the sport is heading towards a clean sport, which is great.
Update Here: The Legendary L'Alpe D'Huez is not so far away now, about 15 Mins away. This will have a big say on who might win the tour. Frank Schleck, I think will gain the most time on the rivals, looks the best so far and his team are doing a great job for him.
I think the team with the best chemist usually wins, a good chemist can conceal the enhancers.
its a minor story here in Ireland because there's no Irish involvement (and still brodacast 3-6 hours live a day and a highlights show). In England last week iQuote:
Originally Posted by Soko
Cavendish endevours was getting more coverage in the broadsheets than any other sport (The guardian had a daily column from him). Elsewhere in contintental europe is its among the biggest sporting events every year.
Simply put, if you've no interest in it, don't bother watching it or reading about it (as you obviously haven't anyway) and don't bother commenting on it.
Can we get the knobhead posts deleted off the thread please? And spoilers if anyone's posting up what's happening, thanks for those of us avoiding all news until the highlights...
SPOILER: sastre in yellow. Rode the whole climb on his own to take the jersey from team mate Frank. Granted Sastres is team leader but I've never seen an attack on the yellow by a team mate before. Watched a bit of it on Tg4. Kohl and Evans were never going to make time on the CSC lads. I still think Evans could win it with a great TT on Friday
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Originally Posted by Macy
Questioning the ehtics of todays cyclists are knobhead comments? Lots of knobheads have written many knobhead articls about your sport so. Have a relatively clean event and maybe some of the knobheads won't have an gripe and might actually watch it
The thread is about the tour de france. The cycling. If there is a positive test then by all means comment on it. Dont make blanket sweeping statements like "they are all on drugs - whats the point of watching it" because its factually incorrect and makes you sound like you are just trying to start a row for the sake of it. Its a good open tour this year if you are into cycling you should have watched it. If your not into cycling why are you posting in the thread? Start a new thread about doping in all sports if you want.
I didn't name anyone, but the cap must fit. You just made wind up comments tarring everyone with the same brush which shows you know nothing about cycling and you know nothing about doping if you really think it is only cycling that's effected. The UCI have introduced a passport system which will track blood levels 365 days a year to show anomalies, and several of the teams have their own independent testing on top of UCI and Federation controls. Maybe you're just naive about other sports, but if you think the once in a blue moon, extremely limited tests that the likes of football and rugby do make them clean, that's your prerogative.Quote:
Originally Posted by Soko