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Kerr needs to **** off. I thought he did alright with the players he had but I will never, ever forgive him for subbing off Robbie Keane in that last Swiss match on the hour mark, as the other guy said previously in this thread. We were desperate for a goal to keep us alive, and he replaced our all-time top scorer with one Gary Doherty. Need I say more?
Time will show that these players will grow to love playing for Trap and respect him, overheard one of the players think it was J'OS speaking with genuine awe about doing push-ups and looking over and seeing the 69 old gaffer doing the same.. I'd imagine Trap is havinga good laff and all the petty crap from Kerr, and have you seen it yet the spread right across the top of the indo today -"Trappetoni the players and drainking", this guy has managed not just in the temperal Italy but all over Europe.. I am sure it takes it all with a pinch of sort.. But we are a fine bunch such pathetic Journalism to start the campaign Its embarassing!
I think you're misreading that entirely. Calling him 'kisser in chief', he's obviously taking the pi$$ out of Byrne. Kerr was criticised for getting rid of him so he's wondering if the gob****es in the press will criticise Trap for it. His bitterness is towards the press and FAI top brass rather than Trap as I see it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Greenforever
i think the becoming in the title is funny, i always found him to be a sad figure
Very predictable that he would have a dig at Brady, I recall Brady calling one of Kerr's articles ridiculous on the panel and Kerr no doubt holds grudges, lost all respect for him, I especially hate the way he pretends to complement someone before getting his little dig in(e.g. calling Brady a legend), as if by doing this it makes his point seem more valid and not just the rantings of a bitter little man
I did feel he was hard done when the FAI sacked him - especially when they brought in Staunton. But now he needs to let things go or all those chips on his shoulders will crush him
When he first started writing for the IT I found his articles really insightful and liked reading him. I can understand his gripes with the FAI but I do feel he is letting it get in the way of decent analysis. For all of the things he could have written about before Trapattoni's first game and he decided to be negative. If he got back to real analysis then I'd much prefer his articles.
I was at the Bulmers/Tv3 sports quiz in Galway last year where Kerr was the guest speaker.His bitterness at the FAI was incredible but at the time I thought understandable, but then he started telling some stories from training sessions and in one in particular he said the they had a game of Culchies against the Dubs, it was funny apart from the fact that he said that Roy Keane was stuck on the team with all the useless Gobdahs like Gary Doherty(in his words, Gary was a nice fella but jaysus he was ****e).... I just sat there thinking that if he thought he was so bad why the fcuk did he play so many games while Kerr was manager and especially in the game against the Swiss when we were so desperate for a goal. In that moment I lost any last lingering bit of respect I had for the guy
A little unfair however he has been a sad figure for a long time probably around the period he replaced Robbie Keane against Israel at Lansdowne with 70 minutes remaining with Graham Kavanagh a defensive midfielder when we were 2-0 up and dominating the match.Quote:
Originally Posted by bellavistaman
I agree. I supported him and thought the media were vicious with him. But these days.. he's bitter.Quote:
Originally Posted by lionelhutz
I lost a lot of respect for him after the home match against Israel. Adding Kavanagh for Keane made no sense. You may not like Connolly but he was a direct replacement for Keane and we would have continued our dominance of that game.
You've summed it up Kerr's approach perfectly... he's engaging in what technically known as 'passive agression'...the man needs help big time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Morbo
Humpty Dunphy is never right. About anything. Ever. He is in no position to start name calling Kerr (Whatever your views on Kerrs article are). Humpty is the ultimate backseat driver. He has slaughtered every Irish manager, and I'm sure Trapp will have his turn under the Dunphy knife too. For Dunphy to accuse Kerr of lacking class is mind boggling. (remember his attacks on his good friend John Giles ? See how he had turned on his other good friend, Roy Keane ? And his atacks are almost always characterised by their personal, spiteful and bitchy nature) Dunphy has also attacked Brady in the past, now when it suits his anti Kerr agenda, Brady is a legend, with a great record at Arsenals youth team (better than winning 2 European international youth titles, Eamonn ?) Brady was much more of a disaster as a manger than Kerr ever was with Ireland. Dunphy accuses Kerr of not wanting Ireland to succeed, does he not remember sitting in the RTE studio making a big issue of the fact he was wearing the Cameroon colours, and supporting them against Ireland during WC 2002 ? In short, Brian Kerr is a Pats legend(and that's all that really matters to me ), Dunphy is a hypocrite and a fool.Quote:
Originally Posted by dublinmick
The pot calling the kettle black!!Quote:
Originally Posted by dublinmick
On Newstalk now!
He didn't say much, "couldn't believe" what he said made "so much headlines".
He just said there was a need to "repair some relationships" in regard to Brady's relationship with the players.
And he defended his statement about Brady and Ireland saying that he "never said the player (Ireland) was right".
And declared Brady not to be a weak link in the managerial team.
At least he came out to the public, still think he should mind his own business, he's past tense now.
He went on Newstalk as well! This is beyond obsession.Quote:
Originally Posted by zenokelly
This can only end with Kerr atop of the FAI Abbotstown Offices, shaking his fists at the cruel sporting gods, with a sawn-off shot gun with Delaney taken hostage.
"What was so wrong with preperatory DVD footage of Canada!!!!!!. I just needed more time, damn you!!!!"
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Originally Posted by TonyD
Dunphy can make good and bad points, like everyone else. I thought him wearing the Cameroon colours was terrible - but that doesn't nullify what he said about Kerr. I'm not his biggest fan, but in my opinion he was spot on about Kerr. Kerr has acted disgracefully. He is a pathetic hurler on the ditch. Kerr, never mind Dunphy, really is a hypocrite. But I don't think he's a fool - In think he knows exactly what he is doing and should be ashamed of himself. He got the boot from Ireland because he was no good. He should get over it rather than sniping from the wings.
I have to says Kerr's latest piece in the Times was by and large spot on bar his praise of Miller! When being more objective in his analysis he's far more worth reading.
Kerr's piece online: http://www.ireland.com/sports/soccer...156490573.html
I've never been one to take a dig at Kerr, however if he said that then it is highly unprofessional & rather disgraceful.Quote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
it was disgraceful but I have to admit that there was a funny side to it too.He was talkin bout the run up to the France game and in the training game of the culchies against the dubs the dubs won 4 nil and Roy Keane was raging to have even lost in training, so when they were about to set up the teams for the training game the following day Keano shouts "right lads, same team as yesterday".Kerr had to tell him to fcuk off coz he didnt want half the team to have broken legs come the France gameQuote:
Originally Posted by Paddy Garcia
Poor old Roy did not like to get beat by the Dubs. Must have been the Anti Cork Bias
I'd say he just didnt like to get beaten at all somehow neil. Btw I'd like to see the teams too.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeilMcD
kerr was at the rory gallager weekend , he is a big music fan i remember reading
Wonder who Kilbane, Andy O'Brien, Mattie Holland and Morrison played for in that training session?Quote:
Originally Posted by NeilMcD
Anyway Keane was fighting a losing battle from the start with a defence consisting of the likes of Gary Doherty, John O'Shea and Ian Harte.
I suppose it went for whatever county their parent or grandparent was from. So in Kilbanes case it would be Mayo so that would make him captain of the culchies I reckon.
neil mcd, id say you were captain of many football teams over the years... you are surely a lifelong member and captain of Andycapp FC??
It appears that Pats fans are the only ones left to idolise Kerr.Quote:
Originally Posted by TonyD
He had a go at Trap the other week. Trap has won practically everything in the game over 3 decades. Kerr hasn't had a managerial job for 2 and a half years.
Make your own mind up on who knows what he's doing/talking about.
Wasn't it Achill Island?Quote:
Originally Posted by NeilMcD
That would put him in the culchie hall of fame.
Yes it was, achill sound to be precise, i went to college with a cousin of his, though she never took advantage of the situation. I think there are pictures of him down in a pub there. Actually I must find out the pub.Quote:
Originally Posted by geysir
Has Achill Island left Co. Mayo then.
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Originally Posted by mypost
1) Maybe we are. So what ?
2) Don't recall reading or hearing him having a go at Trappatoni specifically. What did he say about him ?
3) No ones doubting Trappatonis record, or his ability. It just annoys me when people pretend Kerr did a whole lot worse with Ireland than he actually did. And he emphatically does know what he's doing as a manager. You don't win trophies otherwise.
As for getting a job "People running clubs in England aren't smart enough to realise how good Brian Kerr is" Not my words (and not an exact quote, my memory's not that good,but that was the jist of it). Eamon Dunphy :eek:on the Late Late Show with Brian Kerr after the under 20 Tournament in Malaysia, with Dunphy in full brown nose mode. Another example of what a hypocrite he is.
The fact is that he failed with IrelandQuote:
Originally Posted by TonyD
The vast majority of managers have failed at some stage during their careers. I'll still stand by what I said. A lot of people are lumping Kerr in with Staunton now, which is just ridiculous.
He wasnt as bad as Staunton but he did fail the only time he managed above League of Ireland levelQuote:
Originally Posted by TonyD
I think that Staunton was appointed largely so the FAI could be seen to be dealing with Kerr's failings. I read an article a while ago that new managers are often appointed on the basis of the previous manager's failings. IIRC, it took Newcastle as an example, Keegan was seen as tactically inept at the end of his first reign, so Gullit ,who had a reputation of solid football following his stint at Chelseas was appointed. Gullit was sacked because he didn't understand the Geordie spirit, so Robson - a Geordie who bled for the club - was appointed. Robson was given the boot because he wasn't seen as a disciplinarian within the club, and Souness, who had a history of enforcing discipline, was appointed. And so on. It can be applied to the England national side as well, The public perception of Hoddle was (and still is) that the players couldn't get along with him (noone would care about his religious beliefs if he was successful, Domenech is known for bizarre astrology beliefs, but it's largely ignored because of his success). Keegan was appointed because he had a history of fantastic man management. When he left, Ericsson was appointed because he was a far better tactician than Keegan. Following his departure, and the outcry of appointing a foreigner (remember Harris' rant about selling their history down the fjord to a nation of skiers and hammer throwers who spend half their lives in darkness?), the most qualified English coach was appointed. After that failed miserably, the FA went with actual success, rather than potential.Quote:
Originally Posted by TonyD
Going back to Staunton and Kerr, the public reaction at the end of Kerr's reign was that he had lost the spirit of the dressing room. Staunton was appointed partially on the basis that he had been there in the successful years, and would being that spirit back. In the build up to the Sweden game their was a lot of talk in the press about how easy it was to talk to the players and manager, as compared to under Kerr where it was nigh impossible to get a quote outside of a press conference.
Like it or not, Staunton's failure will forever be linked with Kerr.
If Kerr just dumped the load of chips, the acid sarcasm - there would be no problem.
There is no problem with his overall managerial record for his country, at senior or underage.
There is no problem with his ability to write about a game.
When he just writes about the game he makes a good read.
Agree generally although his senior record deserves to be questioned. When the chips were down (Russia at home and Swiss away for Euro 2004 when 6 points would have qualified us and France and Swiss at home for WC2006) he failed. You also have to point to our propensity under him to throw away winning positions (Russia again for 04, Swiss away and Israel home and away for 06) as a result of safety first tactics in general as a major minus. His best result was still only a 'moral victory' away to France in a game we should have won.Quote:
Originally Posted by geysir
I was a staunch supporter at the time of his appointment and much as I thought he should go had a degree of sympathy when his contract wasn't renewed but he's behaved with such a degree of bitterness since then it's almost impossible not to disike him now. His glee at the Cyprus debacle when he was commentating at the game was unforgiveable and made little sense when you consider it was only Shay Given that prevented a similar scoreline the previous year when he was in charge. Kerr was in charge for some of the most insipid performances I've witnessed from an Ireland team (twice against the Swiss and against Cyprus despite the win) that were practically as bad as what we witnessed under Staunton.
Winning just one of those games, including Israel at our own home ground, having been 2-0 up, would have got a play-off at least. We were supposed to have a bulletproof home record. 3 games at home to qualify for the WC, is about as good as it can get, yet Kerr blew it.Quote:
When the chips were down when 6 points would have qualified us and France and Swiss at home for WC2006) he failed.
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Originally Posted by TonyD
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Originally Posted by noby