won Championship manager of the month for October: http://www.football-league.co.uk/new...h-2786445.aspx
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won Championship manager of the month for October: http://www.football-league.co.uk/new...h-2786445.aspx
It was obvious he would win after losing their first game in November!
Linked with the Man City academy: https://twitter.com/City_Watch/statu...87894471311360
He's a bit old?
A few days old now but Carsley has landed a part-time coaching role with England's U21's - http://www.thefa.com/news/2017/aug/2...s-squad-290817
I really wish we'd take our U21 team seriously.
Taking temporary charge of Birmingham.
That's a great opportunity fair play to him. Hopefully he gives up the England gig!maybe he will bring mark Kennedy in as assistant from their man city daysQuote:
Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks
I get the feeling Kennedy will make a great coach. Seems almost grimly pragmatic in interviews (maybe not a bad thing at all) but was brilliantly technical as a player.
If things go pear shaped for Ireland over the next month (and they surely will), then what about Carsley for the top job?Quote:
Originally Posted by liamoo11
He would bring a wealth of youth coaching knowledge to the post and with a view to developing the next generation of Irish players, it might not be a bad thing>
Did a great interview with Richie Sadlier on second captains a few months agoQuote:
Originally Posted by Olé Olé
Now appointed England U21s head coach. FA must rate him highly.
Fair play to himQuote:
Originally Posted by boovidge
There was a piece in the Times on Sunday by Paul Rowan speculating about the impact of Packie Bonner rejoining the FAI on Stephen Kenny. Article stated Bonner has his doubts on Kenny. It also stated that Bonner recommended Carsley be part of Kenny's backroom staff which never transpired. Not sure if Kenny turned his nose up at Carsley but it was implied that Bonner was disappointed his recommendation was not actioned or executed.
That sounds a little bit like old boys network and a bit petty of Bonner
I think the article almost implicitly tried to refute that by implying that his appointment to this role for England was vindication for Bonner's desire.Quote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
He should be offered the job after Kenny, we can pay him 500k and its a euro campaign, I think he would give us a chance
I also think he would take the job
I doubt he would jump ship that quick but he has to be a possibility for the Irish Job at some stage especially if his coaching career continues on its upward journey.Quote:
Originally Posted by Diggs246
He will be the next England manager, that's how their system works.
Probably a name we should have been seriously considering after MON if we were going down the youth route.
Heard Kenny on with Claire Byrne the other morning, he is an appalling speaker, constantly reaching for his words, not a pre-requisite for a coach, granted. But he's not exactly an impressive presence, I don't think he will last long, Denis O'Brien will probably stump up the cash to get rid of him and hire Chris Hughton or someone like that.
That how their system has worked once.
O'Brien lost hundreds of millions two years ago when he sold INM to Mediahuis. He sold Communcorp this year. The Beacon, last I heard, was turning a profit in the low single digit millions. His focus isn't Ireland any more. He won't be stumping up for a new manager soon.
Carsley would be an interesting choice as next manager. Good player for us, good coaching pedigree. I don't think he's certain to be considered England's next manager. It's a rare enough succession line, and I wonder if being an Irish international would sit well with Ingerland fans when there are so many talented English managers like ... well so many English managers with club management experience who played for them.
Doesn’t seem to bother them when ex Irish internationals actually play for them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eminence Grise
Ouch that hurts, and will for all time... I guess the difference is Carsley, unlike certain people whose-name-is-mud (but were raised in a plastic paddy field!) never ventured back to the dark side once he played for us.
He will never be england manager without club management pedigree. Also he never played for England and isnt a household name
I don't know. Southgate's club management career was three years at Boro, which ended with relegation and the sack. Is that really suitable pedigree?
But he was a highly decorated player and well known to the English public and mediaQuote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
But you said -
That's the part I was replying to.Quote:
Originally Posted by Diggs246
There's many a well-known highly-decorated player has been unable to make it as a manager.
And that showed in the World Cup semi-final against Croatia and the Final against Italy. Southgate was shown wanting in both of those games big style.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
and,more importantly, he is EnglishQuote:
Originally Posted by Diggs246
This is interesting
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football...acked-england/
Quote:
The FA appointed Lee Carsley last year, a capable coach who had a number of previous FA roles, but critically, he played for the Republic of Ireland. He was Birmingham-born but earned 40 caps for the Irish national team. He is not a potential successor to Southgate. Indeed the suggestion is that he is very much likely to be the long-term successor for the Football Association of Ireland if it does not push on with Stephen Kenny beyond Euro 2024 – or perhaps even before then. In that respect the English FA has done its development work for the FAI.
very interesting !Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
Thanks FA!
any chance of a copy paste?
Google 12 foot ladder paywallQuote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
Paste the link to the article in to the site
Read for free
(doesn't work on all paywalled sites)
Excellent - thanks Tets!
Wow! Thanks for the tip!Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
I don't see how Carsley having 40 Ireland caps prevents him from managing England, when they have no problem playing a player who has 3 of them.
Interesting article, indeed. Not sure i can principally agree with this take:
Quote:
The England manager must be English, for reasons that scarcely need rehearsing. This is a game based on international rules and a nation should no more be able to co-opt an Italian coach than it should co-opt an Italian left-back. Once you accept that truth...
Give a man a fish, he'll eat for a dayQuote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
Teach a man to fish...
It would be a genuinely progressive appointment. He's played football at a PL and international level, he's clearly rated as a coach, and is a motivator. I've steered clear of the Kenny debate simply because it's now beyond debate. The experiment has not worked, there are no discernible improvements in team performances, Kenny's own tactical awareness and flexibility or the prospect of qualification for a major tournament. Prolonging the agony will only condition a generation of players into an expectation of failure and mediocrity. We're almost back to where we were before Giles took over, never mind Jack. Once a country sinks to a certain level it needs more than good players to be competitive, and we are reaching that level. Whether you approve or not of 2nd and 3rd G players turning out for the international team, it's significant that we are failing to offer those players any positive incentive to play for Ireland. Kenny has a sort of humble nativist appeal and I know there are diehards who would rather wallow in the nether regions of international football than recruit "mercenaries", but in a world where more and more people have dual or multi national affiliations, harnessing the talent of the diaspora is a manifestly sensible and credible approach. 7 members of the current England squad were eligible for us. We let two escape, apparently because O'Neill thought he might be compromising their careers by tieing them to a second tier nation. 2 of them are highly unlikely to win more than a handful of caps. In the past at least a couple of them may well have accepted a call-up from Ireland, but would you want to play for Stephen Kenny?