Setanta Cup Round 3

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15/04/2008, 8:06 PM
kingdomkerry

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Originally Posted by Steve Bruce

Why would we want to play in a league from a completely different country?

His off!
15/04/2008, 8:07 PM
kingdomkerry

St Pats should be about 5 goals to the good at half time
15/04/2008, 8:16 PM
CharlesThompson

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Originally Posted by SterveBruce

I think once this Setanta contract runs out, an AIL competition should be scrapped and revisited in 10+ years or whenever it takes for the Irish League to get their arses into gear.

Quote:

Originally Posted by thischarmingman

Or instead of watching the league get further and further behind everyone else over the next decade they could maybe start considering the prospect of an AIL? But then of course, Linfield might not be top dog. Far better to be the best violinist playing on the ship as it goes down...

Have to say that the same thought crossed my own mind. I'd be interested in your views on this SB - surely an AIL would improve the overall standard of football all around the island. In the eL it started with Shels and Bohs going full time, then Cork, Pats, Derry, Drogheda followed suit. Now we have Galway and Sligo gone full time. Most of those sides will fill the top half of the table this season.

Surely you would be better off playing the likes of these full time sides along with improved Glentoran, Ports, Cliftonville, than the likes of Distillery, Institute, Newry et al every other week. How can you improve on where you are at the moment when the competition in your league is so far behind you? That is unless you prefer the guarantee of being 'Top Dog' in your league.
15/04/2008, 8:16 PM
OneRedArmy

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Originally Posted by Steve Bruce

I do accept that LOI sides are better (bar linfield), that isn�t debatable, it is fact. But I do feel that scheduling does hamper IL sides due to it being a run in to the season and being a vastly part time league the fitness does tell.

I do think in October that IL sides would compete a lot better, I�m not saying IL sides will dominate, or win more matches than the LOI but I do think the games will be closer and their would be more results favouring the IL.

We're forced to play you in pre-season and that favours the LoI sides?!

Deluded.
15/04/2008, 8:18 PM
Poor Student

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Originally Posted by dancinpants

Derry 1 up on Glens....Sammon peno.

He's suprisingly composed at pentalties for such an uncomposed and awkward player in front of goal.
15/04/2008, 8:19 PM
dancinpants

Glens 1-1 Derry
15/04/2008, 8:20 PM
Fester

Glentoran 1 v 1 Derry City
15/04/2008, 8:21 PM
Fester

Quote:

Originally Posted by dancinpants

Glens 1-1 Derry

You beat me to it .................
15/04/2008, 8:24 PM
OneRedArmy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Poor Student

He's suprisingly composed at pentalties for such an uncomposed and awkward player in front of goal.

Still bitter?
15/04/2008, 8:27 PM
Poor Student

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneRedArmy

Still bitter?

Bitter at all the goals he didn't score last year as he tangled with his own frame?
15/04/2008, 8:31 PM
OneRedArmy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Poor Student

Bitter at all the goals he didn't score last year as he tangled with his own frame?

Thought so...
15/04/2008, 8:31 PM
Schumi

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Originally Posted by OneRedArmy

Still bitter?

Yeah, he destroyed us in Belfield. :D

His penalties are superb though, never seen him miss one.
15/04/2008, 8:31 PM
pineapple stu

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Originally Posted by CharlesThompson

Have to say that the same thought crossed my own mind. I'd be interested in your views on this SB - surely an AIL would improve the overall standard of football all around the island. In the eL it started with Shels and Bohs going full time, then Cork, Pats, Derry, Drogheda followed suit. Now we have Galway and Sligo gone full time.

Has the Setanta improved the standard in the IL? With respect, it's the league which is more likely to gain through a "being dragged up" factor. I'm not sure how people can claim an AIL would improve the overall standard while looking at the Setanta Cup which, while interesting, is a fairly mundane tournament dogged with thoughts of "Why bother?"

Also, Shels, Bohs, Drogs and Pat's are really only full time on the basis of huge losses, covered by sugar daddies or ground sales. That's what's improved the league in the past few years, and an AIL won't really affect things as much as someone willing to put a million into a club.

Back on topic, can't believe Pat's are only a goal up. Serious amount of, to all intents and purposes, one on ones going a begging. This is definitely heading for a 1-1 draw...
15/04/2008, 8:31 PM
pete

Did I hear earlier that Pats have only two players on the bench? :confused:
15/04/2008, 8:34 PM
OneRedArmy

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Originally Posted by pete

Did I hear earlier that Pats have only two players on the bench? :confused:

Four.

Cork had only two in a game last season.

Due to the requirement to pre-register your SC squad.
15/04/2008, 8:34 PM
Fester

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Originally Posted by pete

Did I hear earlier that Pats have only two players on the bench? :confused:

4 players on the bench..............
15/04/2008, 8:35 PM
pineapple stu

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Originally Posted by OneRedArmy

Due to the requirement to pre-register your SC squad.

Pre-register how big a squad?
15/04/2008, 8:36 PM
Raheny Red

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Originally Posted by pete

Did I hear earlier that Pats have only two players on the bench? :confused:

They have 4. Stains gaffer said it's nothing to worry about as Cork had 2 on theirs for one of the games last season.
15/04/2008, 8:38 PM
sligoman

2-0 Pat's. O'Neill with great strike.
15/04/2008, 8:39 PM
OneRedArmy

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Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Pre-register how big a squad?

No idea, Johnny Mac didn't cover that question in his pre-match bit!

Also not sure if you can supplement players in before the Oct games, presumably you can as its a new season in the IL so players will be out of contract etc.
15/04/2008, 8:39 PM
dancinpants

1-1 FT at the Oval. Wasted a heap of chances.
15/04/2008, 8:40 PM
dortie

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Originally Posted by Poor Student

Bitter at all the goals he didn't score last year as he tangled with his own frame?

Still though, he must be over the moon to play in front of a crowd, Job satisfaction at least.
15/04/2008, 8:40 PM
Erstwhile B�z

Smacking goal by Gary O'Neill there. 2-0.
15/04/2008, 8:43 PM
dortie

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Originally Posted by dancinpants

1-1 FT at the Oval. Wasted a heap of chances.

Got text updates from one of our SC members, wasted a serious amount of chances by all accounts.

Personally i cant get motivated with the Setanta cup, dont know what it is..
15/04/2008, 8:44 PM
pete

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Originally Posted by Raheny Red

They have 4. Stains gaffer said it's nothing to worry about as Cork had 2 on theirs for one of the games last season.

I was only half paying attention, I heard him mention us but that is obviously where I got the two from.

2-0 Pats. Linfield lucky there is only 10 minutes left. Pats have missed a load of chances.
15/04/2008, 8:45 PM
OneRedArmy

Some seriously angry people in the crowd judging by the audio.......:D
15/04/2008, 8:56 PM
Fester

2 v 0 Saints. Could have been cricket score............ :D
15/04/2008, 9:00 PM
thischarmingman

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Bruce

Why would we want to play in a league from a completely different country?

You know perfectly well that's not the point.

Why wouldn't you want to do something to arrest the demise of the IL? In a more competative league, with standards gradually rising year on year?
15/04/2008, 9:01 PM
Erstwhile B�z

:D Looked like Jeffries was saying, "You b***ard you! You effer, eff you!" to McDonnell when he was shaking hands.
15/04/2008, 9:02 PM
pete

Must switch over for the David & Patrick post match interview :D
15/04/2008, 10:15 PM
Finlay Harp

Looks like it all kicked off at the Pats Linfield match. 6 arrested according to the BBC website!
15/04/2008, 10:19 PM
HolylandsMan

Derry had by far the most of the possession and probably shoulda won although Glens created a fair few good chances with minimal possession.

Sloppy defending for the Glens goal - bad missed header. McGlynn almost won it late on when he smashed a shot against the bar from 35 yards.

Not a terrible result but shoulda taken the 3 points.
15/04/2008, 10:24 PM
sligoman

Quote:

Originally Posted by Finlay Harp

Looks like it all kicked off at the Pats Linfield match. 6 arrested according to the BBC website!

Interesting quote from Linfield chairman

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Originally Posted by Jim Kerr

Should we continue in the Setanta Cup next season, we will have to look at transporting our supporters from Windsor Park and make sure they get to the ground without incident. There will be no unorganised travel.

How exactly do you stop unorganised travel? Close the roads to non-Linfield fan buses:confused:
15/04/2008, 10:25 PM
HolylandsMan

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How exactly do you stop unorganised travel?

Don't sell tickets to those who don't travel on official club buses?
15/04/2008, 10:26 PM
sligoman

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Originally Posted by HolylandsMan

Don't sell tickets to those who don't travel on official club buses?

Very hard to monitor though, people would always get tickets some way or another.
15/04/2008, 10:27 PM
Maroon 7

Quote:

Originally Posted by Finlay Harp

Looks like it all kicked off at the Pats Linfield match. 6 arrested according to the BBC website!

It's on the front page of tomorrow's Indo. Big picture of some fella with a bloody face being led away by the Guards.
15/04/2008, 10:46 PM
inchicore_saint

Alot of Linfield fans were drunk and were singing crap like Rule Britannia and GSTQ.
15/04/2008, 10:57 PM
Dodge

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Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Pre-register how big a squad?

25 I think. We had a few out with flu apparently

Linfield were very. We should've scored 7/8

Absolutely massive police presence. All pats fans kept back for 20 minutes or so and Emmet Road closed from 9.30 to 10.30

No way Pats fans were involved in trouble as we were all kept back. No one allowed leave after start of 2nd half
15/04/2008, 11:02 PM
Raheny Red

Quote:

Originally Posted by inchicore_saint

Alot of Linfield fans were drunk and were singing crap like Rule Britannia and GSTQ.

The crap coming from your lot was embarrassing and was quite clear coming across on TV. Was probably the minority but Setanta could have moved their audio equipment away from where the chants were coming from.
15/04/2008, 11:04 PM
sligoman

Quote:

Originally Posted by inchicore_saint

Alot of Linfield fans were drunk and were singing crap like GSTQ.

That 'crap' is their national anthem, like it or not.

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