He can't....thats why Brady is going to be his assistant (as he can speak Italian)...Quote:
Originally Posted by NeilMcD
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He can't....thats why Brady is going to be his assistant (as he can speak Italian)...Quote:
Originally Posted by NeilMcD
Well he has a few months to learn it, and if Brady has a place in the set up then he'll be able to help translate until his language improves. If Trapattoni and Gentile are both committed then they should be able to get their english to a decent level in a few months.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeilMcD
I was speaking in relation to Gentille.Quote:
Originally Posted by Blue-Army
Gentile is fluent in English, no issues there.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeilMcD
If it is Trappatoni, will the FAI-bashers on here accept that maybe, just maybe, they have gotten this right? Will they accept that if you f**k up, as they did with Stan, you should be allowed to learn from your mistakes? That success doesn't happen overnight. That the only 'farce' of the last three-four months has been the hysterical media coverage?
Or will we go down the route taken by those who push their own petty agendas (step forward Brian Kerr, Pat Dolan etc) and claim that the FAI have pulled off a real coup in spite of themselves? Suppose delusion is better than humble pie.
Yes, If Trappatoni is appointed, a tremendous job by the FAI and the selection panel.Quote:
Originally Posted by barney
Drinks on me at Don Givens' house Friday night...details to follow.
And to be fair, the press can claim some credit for this, because the FAI were afraid to put a foot wrong! another assistant coach from Walsall was never going to hack it..........................
On the other hand, if Venables gets the job, all the above is a pile of horse sh!te !!!! How easily the pendulum doth swing !
I have just heard the news, sounds great.
It's not quite a dream team just yet.
A dream team would have Gentile running the u21's as well.
Good scoop for the Examiner, no ifs or reliable sources say, just an affirmative statement that the appointment is fact.
Delaney pretty much confirming that Trap has the job:
"I was thrilled last night. I got a phone call from Don Givens and I spoke to him this morning and he asked that I call a board meeting for Wednesday at 4.30pm. There is a preferred candidate to be the next Irish manager, that will be brought to the board and we will hold a press conference after the board meeting to tell the public who the next Irish manager is going to be.
"The panel have had a couple of interviews over the last couple of days. We're not going to comment who was where and when, but what I am excited about is that we do have the preferred candidate and the Irish public will know the next Irish manager on Wednesday night.
"I can't comment on who the manager is going to be and I think you understand that it's got to go to the board first. We've had a huge amount of interest in the job, I think that's fair to say, there's been an unprecedented amount of interest in who wants to manage Ireland this time.
"I put that down to two facts: 1) the number of young players that have come through over the last couple of years, there's a real knowledge internationally of the players that we have and 2) the financial package. The fact that we are prepared to pay more than we have ever paid to get a top class manager in. Those two factors have created a buzz around the appointment of the next Irish manager and from a personal point of view I'm just thrilled that we'll have somebody to announce to the Irish public."
When asked if he was brushing up on his Italian, the Waterford man said he'd be "brushing up on a lot of things, but that the Irish public would be excited about the appointment come Wednesday night."
http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2008/0211/fai.html
I suppose the whole selection panel and the length of time taken to appoint a manager will all be forgotten IF we get trapatoni.
Looks certain now. I would aslo like to see Gentile running the u/21's. I will be very surprised if Trap isn't pulling the strings of all the under age teams.
The FAI have taken alot of abuse over the years and correctly so but if they pull this off, hats off to them. They certainly surprised me. Havent been this genuinely exited about the appointment of an irish manager ever.
I heard T'oD said that Brady would not be involved and that Brady basically started the whole Trappatoni thing and provided the link to it which is what I thought all along. I hope Brady is involved.
Just to make a point about his time in charge of Italy. Italy had 5 goals disallowed in 3 games at the 2002 world cup. Replays showed all of them to be the wrong calls. Not to mention Totti sent off wrongly.
Liam Mackey is on Today FM stating he will be involved but on a match by match basis and will be staying in his Arsenal role. Good enough for me....Quote:
Originally Posted by NeilMcD
Big Cas was also on saying he bumped into Venables and asked him about the Ireland job and though he didn't say yes or no his reaction indicated that he hadn't got it.
Gabrielle Marcotti on RTE:
He was surprised to hear the panel were in Austria last night because his sources told him a couple of hours ago that he hasn't spoken to the FAI yet.
Trap has said he is apparently 95% sure he'll accept the offer.
Brady has secured permission from Wenger to take up a role with Ireland.
Trap is a 35 year old in the body of a 60 year old.
But with the birth cert of a 68 year old!
My Italian mate reckons it'll be "fun".
Time to arrange a friendly with England :)
LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by Scram
I don't think TV would be that bad of an appointment tbh. But Trappatoni looks far superior to anything we could have hoped for a few months ago. Only thing that slightly worries me is that there is a possibility, however slight, of him being our Bertie Vogts. Then again Trappatoni's club record is phenomenal where as Vogts, to the best of my knowledge, had nothing beyond Euro 96 to point to.
I reckon the media have been beyond vicious in all this. By all means have a go at Delaney and the FAI for the Stan appointment, and ensure that they don't venture down a similar road this time, but to keep calling the process a 'farce' just because it was taking a few months was ridiculous. We don't start the WC qualifiers until September so there was nothing to be gained by a quick appointment. Fair play to Delaney, Givens, Howe and Houghton for not giving much away throughout and leaving the press to make up their own crap.
I've always said, just give the FAI a reasonable amount of time, time to make mistakes and learn from them, and then judge them. Success doesn't happen straight away and, to my mind, they are doing a sterling job in most aspects of the game in this country.
This is the question that should have been asked at Stan's appointment.Quote:
Originally Posted by NeilMcD
the process was a farce though, because it deviated so far from the stated objective which was to headhunt the best candidates out there. The fact is they never came up with a concise list of candidates in europe, they had Jewell and Coppell at the top of their interview schedule, and they took their sweet time getting around to Hodgson. A proper headhunter would have drawn up their list of managers by number of titles/achievements in descending order and worked their way down and this would have sounded out Trap months ago. When the FAI appointed the under 21 manager and Don Howe it opened the committee up to accusations of vested interests and bias. Headhunting is the last thing that the committee did, they seemed to be more reactive than pro-active when it came to interviewing people. Also, they could have been more transparent without stonewalling the public. All the media and bookie speculation about Deschamps, Houllier etc could have been settled by saying they were interviewed but didn't want the job, but we still don't know who was and wasn't interviewed. My own belief is that it was Trap's agent that made the contact, because this farce has gone on so long it had become known all across europe, eventually to Austria. This is a victory snatched from the jaws of defeat, and we'll never know how close we came to El O'Tel.
has everyone seen this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bqp64q7kHmw
i would kill to be in the same room when Stephen Ireland gets a whole pile of half learned english abuse...
im getting excited now..i kinda wish i didnt imigrate..oh well..
He was 2 minutes away from the WC 1/4-finals, and 1 goal away from the EC 1/4-finals in 2004. With that record, we would give bosses like that a homecoming and an Irish passport. Oh sorry, we already have. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Cymro
There were many available candidates out there, but (it seems as though) we have chosen the right candidate, which is what the committee was set up to do. How many bosses would queue up for the Welsh gig, right now?? :confused:
A lot of speculation in there. According to the Tribune yesterday, the panel sounded out Lippi and Hiddink. While those sort of candidates would be top notch, we also have to be realistic hence the list of less desirable candidates and interviewees.Quote:
Originally Posted by ruben_sosa
We have no right to know who was and wasn't interviewed. The panel did right in telling us, and the media, nothing.
Had the panel listened to the media, and some experts, Ireland would have knee jerked into appointing Jewell, Hodgson or Coppell, who so many people waxed lyrical about. Which three managers currently reside in the Premiership relegation zone??
If the process was seen as such a farce across Europe, Trappatoni wouldn't have touched it with a ten foot pole. The FAI took their time and look to have pulled of a massive coup. Fair play to them.
Trap has finished in the top 2 in the league 17 times, winning 10. Top 2 in domestic cups 7 times, winning 3. Twice has been in the European cup final, winning 1. 3 UEFA cup wins. 1 Cup Winners Cup win. 1 Super Cup and 1 World Club Championship.
32 medals in his 33 years of management.
what logical well planned process brings a committee from Billy Davies to Trapattoni? they were going in another direction closer to home until someone outside the committee pointed them in the direction of Traps. I'd say they were close to appointing Venables after Houllier dropped out, but Traps really was an eleventh hour entry into the race which was already in the process of winding down. Like i said... i can see nothing logical or planned about the sequence of events we've witnessed.Quote:
Originally Posted by barney
I do think the FAI deserve credit for being in a financial position to offer a much better salary than previously available, and also they should take credit for trying a new approach to the appointment process, though i don't think associations around europe will be queuing up to replicate it.
Just in general...it's the Irish way, some people are complaining about the process and that it's a farce, but the outcome is that we'll get Trap. End result is better than most would have thought.
I don't think we the public have a right to know who or who wasn't interviewed though - if the FAI came out after each interview and announced who they just interviewed - could you imagine the media!!
p.s. this is based on the assumption Trap signs the contract !!
Yeah if anyone actually thinks Trap's appointment will have anything to do with the appointment of the three man Venables, sorry, selection committee, think again. Just remember that after the media had already broke the story of Trap's interest, Givens laughed it off saying they'd never heard anything about him, and that they doubted the FAI would talk to him behind his back. Thank fukk they did.
The same logical well-planned process that chooses Trappatoni (presuming it's him) over the other candidates.Quote:
Originally Posted by ruben_sosa
Again, you're speculating. "I'd say what happened is..". What happened is that the panel were put together to find the best man for the job. They look like producing Trappatoni. That's an awful lot better than anyone could have hoped for. Hats off to them, they've done what it said on the tin.
I'd bet there will be people, both here and in the media, hoping that the manager fails just so they can have a go at the FAI. This is Ireland after all.
I hope to God that if we do qualify for SA 2010 that there's no sad-ass homecoming (unless we win it). Nothing more cringeworthy than seeing joe Duffy talking to an embarrassed Damien Duff about the DDD's (Damien Duff Dizziness).Quote:
Originally Posted by mypost
Oh dear.
I hate this. I don't think anybody who cares about Irish football gives a s*** about who is responsible for appointing a truly world class manager.Quote:
Originally Posted by barney
I think all they care about is that we actually do appoint a world class manager
And i'm still very weary about whether Trappatoni will be hired
the director of football sounds like one for Givens.Quote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
Does Givens have more badges than Brady. I saw him with a Madness one the other day. The unmistakable hat.
That's a fantastic recordQuote:
Originally Posted by eirebhoy
Really think we can look forward to the future with this guy in new era.
If he just wins one medal for Ireland I be happy enough
That'd lift the wig clean off his head!!Quote:
Originally Posted by onenilgameover
Well, it looks like it'll be Trapattoni.
My only word on this, is that I expect a second place finish, at very minimum from our group.
It seems I've come in for a bit of stick for my earlier comments. To be honest, they were based on what I saw of Italy in the Euros and the qualifiers. They were very negative, we outplayed them at home and didn't deserve the 4-0 scoreline away.
That said anecdotal evidence probably isn't the best thing to go by. I've had a look at Trapattoni's record and it does look impressive.......so good acquistion, I guess.
This is amazing, I dont care how long it has taken but if the name is read out on Wednesday it is a massive coup for the three blind mice. Would love to know Traps main driver for taking the job, is it the talent? does he like Guinness and fishing or does he feel he has unfinished business when it comes to a national team. Interesting very interesting
Giles likes what he hears.
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