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stu grow up !! we will suprise a few this year wait and you will see !!! i cant see your team do much this year??? id worry about your own team then keep going on about gufc!!!!!!
Missed that.
Rouse will be back up so won't feature much, but if he does he will be dodgy going by what fans of previous clubs have said.
You can't judge player solely on previous clubs. His history does suggest that he won't set the division alight but as of now he's unproven, leaning slightly towards dodgy.
I think that their other three signings are very good and outweigh whatever deficiencies those two have, and are also better than most of the options that ourselves, Cobh etc have.
You are all right about Harps. Again. Like last year.
Cobh, Harps and UCD/Galway for me
Marc McCulloch is a fantastic player, easily good enough for the Premier. If Leech gets his head right he will also be an excellent signing
Galway won't get religated not a chance, their going to definately finish ahead of Cobh, UCD, Bray and Harps maybe Rovers, just maybe:rolleyes:
The more Galway fans post on the subject, the more I want them to be relegated.
3 teams are going down, the whole bottom half of the table will be in the mix.
Cobh and Harps could surprise a few people, and take points, and UCD are old hands at surviving.
Bray look strong to me too.
The first goal yee got was good but shockin defendin on our part.
It is only the start of pre-season games.
I would not read too much into anything at this point. I think defensively GUFC will be stronger this year.
As mentioned on www.galwayunitedfc.net GUFC started this team against sligo last year
----------------Brinias-----------------
--James---Charles---Nooitmeer---Reilly--
--Cooke---Lester-----Murphy---O'Brien-
----------Moran----Armstrong---------
Compare this with our (probable) first choice team for the start of this season.
----------------Rogers-----------------
Keane--Nooitmeer--Fitzgerald--McCulloch
O'Shea----Deegan-----Russell----O'Brien
------------O'Flynn---Glynn------------
We have a significantly stronger squad of players now I believe. Fingers crossed we wont have any crises, injury wise, but we have a fair amount of competition for places, so the squad should be able to sustain whatever is thrown at it.
Watching all your messages i think the premier will be good to watch this season, no one will def win it (drogs, city, bohs, derry, will be all hoping for it), and looks like no 100% def for going down, mind you i think sligo and UCD will struggle
With any luck UCD will begin their plummet to the A Championship this year. No place for development clubs in a senior league given most proper clubs would want academies and scholarships of their own.
Cobh will also go down. The other spot will be interesting.
While the reduction back to 10 teams seems like a pretty bad idea, it certainly does make for a fascinating season. I think anyone outside of Pats, Bohs, Cork and Drogheda could end up in the relegation battle, although Derry and Shamrock Rovers are very unlikely to feature in it.
As for the remainder:
Galway United got stronger as last season went on and look to have brought in a few decent players. I also hear their training is vastly better than last year. On the other hand I'm unsure about Cousins as a manager and am not sure where the goals will come from, but they should be ok.
Sligo Rovers have had a good few years but I can't escape the feeling that they could be a bit fragile this year. Cook has done well since being appointed, but at Southport he seemed to be a bit of a disaster when things started to go against him.
UCD seem to have lost a few of their better players, but who knows what they will unearth in the close season? Their demise is more often heralded than real, but as things stand they look like being in for a tough year.
Bray look to have signed quite well, adding to some good players they had last year. I think they should be fine, but could get sucked into the relegation scrap.
Cobh were excellent last year and deserved to win the division, but little seems to have happened since then. I think they'll be good for quite a few draws, especially at home, but without some additions I'm not sure they can make a significant impact.
Harps got stronger and stronger as last year progressed and easily accounted for Waterford United in the playoff. Have gone completely full time and made some decent signings, but certain areas still look weak, especially right midfield. With a good start could cause surprises, but if last year's beginning is repeated it could be a long year.
10. Galway
11. UCD
12. Cobh
Having seen Harps last year, they will surprise most people and could easily finish sixth.
Its going to be tighter than a ducks ****. Apart from saying that I think the following clubs will be 'in the mix'
Ourselves
Cobh
Bray
Galway
Harps
Bray have taken out Relegation Insurance by making Osam assistant manager to Gormley so you can stop including them in these lists.
We have only played 2 pre-season games already so its early to judge the players but we are stronger and way way fitter already this season see here http://www.galwayunitedfc.ie/news-fe...ness-guru.html. .The new players all looked good last friday night especially O'Shea and Leech and when we get our central midfield pairing and starting front 2 sorted we should be ok.
We played 2 games over the weekend plus 2 futsall games using over 30 Players including four trialists and Wes,Keano & Greg were missing so our squad is looking way stronger in depth and we might surprise a few dont forget we only lost 3 of our last 13 games last season.
Think half the table could end up battling relegation seeing as 3 go down.
Think Galway will be alright. Deegan, O'Shea and McCulloch are all improvements on what they had last season in those positions. Leech will probably chip in up front. Rouse will only be number 2 keeper anyway and they have Alan Keane fit this time. He made a difference for them when he came in towards the end of last season. Plus Galway survived last year despite a terrible home record. I can't see it being as bad again this year.
Think Sligo will be alright although not sure they'll be as good as last season so they could be dragged into it a fight at least. Think UCD might be caught out this year. Maybe Cobh to join them with the last place to be between Harps and Bray. Likely that all those teams will be knocking somewhere around the bottom half of the table though so it should be some scrap.
So for arguing back that we don't think we'll get relegated we're been cocky?.
Thats quite sad really, id be happier to see ye'r clubs go down for your responses there!!.
Our team is far stronger then last year when we were unlucky not to pick up a few more points
we have added two VERY good young players(O'Shea and Deegan), a striker who while still young has been to quite a few clubs(Leech, i was'nt happy with this one either but if you seen the way he took his goal the last night he seems to have a great footballing brain on him>>>> first goal http://youtube.com/watch?v=bGeiIP0ktS8), McCulloch seems competent but nothing too special(but still better then Wes and Reilly who we had there last year), and Rouse who hopefully is'nt ever needed to start.
We did'nt lose one player from last year's squad we wanted to keep, how many other clubs at this end can say that?.
The thing is can TC organise them, i said before he was great for spotting players and would make a top scout, but he does'nt seem capable of organising a team efficently, hopefully he can prove me wrong this year!
No. Every club thinks they won't be relegated.
It's the comments like there's no hope we'll be in the mix that make ye cockier than the others. 5-6 clubs will be in the mix.
I think far is a bit of overestimation. You have to compare relatively, the teams around ye ahve also strengthened.
Unlucky?? How? Well any more than every other club
Cobh? Harps?
Not sure tbh
And organisation( a strength of the likes of Mahon at UCD imo) can be the difference between staying up and going down, couple of goals from set pieces etc.
I'm not claiming ye will be relegated but I'd be surprised if ye are not in the relegation battle.
Unlucky= I know every team gets unlucky, but Murphs peno miss with the last kick of the game against Longford cost us 2 points, along with Rovers late(LATE) equaliser in terryland to claim a point. There was many other instances but i think in regards to them we were VERY unlucky those 4 points would have us snapping at Derrys heels and nobody seems to be mentioning them at all!!.
You would'nt expect a club getting promoted to be losing players, i was referring to clubs who remained in the division!!.
From what ive seen of this years squad id personally expect them to be closer to Derry/Sligo then UCD/Bray. If we did go down it will be from the 3rd relegation spot and not the bottom two!!.
What i find cocky is the fans of the newly promoted teams thinking there to hit the ground running, there going to struggle, one of them might sneak it, but one of the two is a certainty to go back down imo!!
Thats not unlicky, that's bottling it.
Again I wouldnt consider this unlucky, but poor concentration and organisation towards the end of the game.
Exactly the kind of goals that would get you relegated
Im sure Longford and Waterford and Derry have similar stories.
Am I right in saying Longford would have finished level with ye were it not for the points deducation?
Everyone claims to be unlucky at some stage, and it always seems it happens more to your team, but it all evens itself out over the course of a season imo
No ones mentioning Derry as they finished 2nd the year before last with close to the same team........last year was a freak year for them based on motivation and bad management imo.
The manager who got them 2 seonds with a close enough team to this is back. They shouldnt be anywhere near being relegated.Player for player they are far superior to anyone outside the top 6
But these teams have also added players. You cant just ignore the first division teams...they're the ones ye will be trying to guarantee you finish ahead of
I'd agree with you but it doesnt really matter if its third last or second last though does it?
I could be completely wrong but I fancy Bray to finish ahead of ye
But none of them are claiming they wont be in the relegation scrap.
Of course they're optimistic about their chances, there'd be no point otherwise
Er, is it WUMing when I disagree with you? I'd have thought my utter bile toward UCD was fairly consistant at this stage, WUM'ing would be just trying to get a rise.
UCD served their purpose as a 'breeding ground' for Dublin talent nicely back when half of the ELOI were basically talented pub teams. As professionalism increases, the need for what is essentially a youth academy to be present in the premier division of the national league will/has dissipated. Goodbye UCD, thanks for the awful, awful memories.
If he knew what league Sligo played in it might be a help!
According to this http://www.sligorovers.com/content/view/467/1/
he thinks he's in the IPL & would like to finish 6th in it , as it is a very hard league!!!!
UCD served their purpose as a 'breeding ground' for Dublin talent nicely back when half of ELOI players were basically talented pub teams. As professionalism increases, the need for what is essentially a youth academy to be present in the premier division of the national league will/has dissipated. Goodbye UCD, thanks for the awful, awful memories.[/QUOTE]
YAWN:D
Little knowledge is a dangerous thing!
And as Mick Cooke would say.
Stop bleating about them and go and relegate them on the pitch.
I'd love it if we stayed up LOVE IT!:)
:D...hes a bit confused alright. He calls Drogheda "Dro-g-e-da" instead of "Dro-h-e-da"... :D
we'll finish round 6th if weve a fit Alan Moore and maybe 3-4 more signings, alot depends on Faz too, if he really wants to play with Rovers...cant see him staying till next season though :(
Are you for real? Are you suggesting you were the only club to have had bad luck last year?
You don't mention, for example, your very fortuituous draw in Belfield when you scored early on as we were still rearranging our defence from suffering an injury in the warm up and when you then equalised in injury time. There's one of your four points gone.
Luck evens itself out over the season. You can't pick two incidents and say that you'll be luckier this year.
Or us being safe with seven games to go and focussing on the Cup semi!