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Did someone say sell-on clause? ;)
He's on a three year deal.
Lots of Scouts came to watch him last night
Do you know where from?Quote:
Originally Posted by SÓC
Mostly the First Cork Troop I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by A face
There was a group of Bridginis there as welll - throwing chips and giggling in the corner
;)
3 year deal, thank god.
He's in better form than Doyle was, although Doyle was doing it for a season and a half.
I reckon he'll be gone very soon.
Too good.
He's also similar in manner to Doyle and in how they dealt with the City fans.
Role models.
Ha ha, dib dib dib !! :pQuote:
Originally Posted by dcfcsteve
He's a class act but Mark Quigley is as good if not better than him IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by brianw82
It's a pity we didn't get him, they'd have been some combination this season.
Looking like most prolific striker we have ever had as Pat Morleys club record of 20 league goals in in his sight now. Not seen finishing like it since O'Flynn in his prime. Better finisher than Doyle or O'Donovan although does not have the all round game of Doyle or the pace of O'Donovan. Looks to be working really hard & doesn't have the ego of some other players.
He is on a long term contract & one of the highest earners at the club so nothing less than top Championship club would tempt him. Realistically any bid would need to be 1m+ as he will get better as fitness & strength improve.
Doubt that to be honest. If a good Championship club offered half a mil for him are you saying that Cork would turn it down?Quote:
Originally Posted by pete
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Originally Posted by bigmac
I think they would. Its only cause they do have good business heads behind the scenes and they know mooneys is worth a lot more
If they can get more then yeah, yeah they would turn it down.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigmac
Yes I believe they would. We got similar price for O'Donovan who had only 6 months left on his contract. Whatever about our faults in the past recent transfer for City players have broken LOI records.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigmac
The fees recently are closer to what the norm should be. Its up to clubs not to bottle it, and club members should hold people accountable if they do bottle it. Selling top players for a packet of magic beans has to stop if the league is ever going to progress.Quote:
Originally Posted by pete
Half a million Euro is hardly a packet of magic beans and if such an offer is received I can hardly see it being rejected out of hand .Quote:
Originally Posted by A face
One of the top strikers in League 2 last season moved to a Championship club for £750k (€975k). Mooney looks like he is going to get 20 goals this season in a league that is at least similar standard to League 2. Cork should be looking for at least the same amount.Quote:
Originally Posted by gustavo
If we got over half a million last year for a player with 6 months left on his contract, why would we take the same for what appears to be a better player (better finisher anyway) on a 3 year contract? We're not exactly desperate for money, and with the big prize money this year and next any business person could see the "stock" isn't high enough to cash in yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by gustavo
I think half a million would(should) be laughed at tbh. We got that much for Roy with a similar scoring record and only six months left. Dave has 2 and a half years left.
I would be disgusted if he went for anything under a million.
Ideally though we'l tell them all to f off and keep him.
Depends how much Cork need the money.
Its a lot easier to hold out for a better offer if you don't need the cash.
Seems an obvious statement but its one all the "analysis" above is missing.....
well...Quote:
Originally Posted by OneRedArmy
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Originally Posted by GavinZac
Saying Cork shouldn't talk to clubs offering less than 2 million only makes sense if there is a real chance that a club is going to offer 2 million.
Regardless of how much Cork fans think he's worth, how much do they realistically expect to be offered for him? Considering the (inaccurate) perception of the eL across the water, and the hit-and-miss success of some of the eL's other star exports, I'd say 2 million is a bit fanciful.
Not a chance of getting 2m, but this is about right. 900k-1m would be a good deal, particularly if Cork could get something like 10-20% sell-on clause includedQuote:
Originally Posted by DmanDmythDledge
Are you still owned by that hedge fund?Quote:
Originally Posted by GavinZac
The point being, we dont have to get rid of him. The money he would/could make us by staying in prize money etc in the next 3 seasons, means we have very little reason to be looking to get rid. He'l be just as good with 6 months left on his contract and we'l take the half a million then....Quote:
Originally Posted by osarusan
The lad has a good head on his shoulders, has turned down offers in England before and has no interest in returning unless the club and contract is right. He wants to win stuff and we want him to stay and help us do so.
So as of now, we have no interest in selling him.
Now if someone did come in with a huge offer, upward of 1million, of course we'd then consider it. But as it stands both sides are happy with the way things are going.
Yeah, ArkagaQuote:
Originally Posted by OneRedArmy
Ask for 3 million and drop to 2, thats the way to go ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by joey4ireland
Anybody know if he has any release clauses in his contract? ;)
How do you know your view is aligned with that of those running your club?Quote:
Originally Posted by micls
You also ignore the present value of money, which in the current climate is huge as discount rates are rocketing.
Also the bit in bold is a large gamble, not fact.
My point is that its nowhere near as clear cut as decision as you make out.
Transfer fees have definitely increased recently but the two guiding principles have stayed the same:
1) its hard for EL clubs to turn down cash; and
2) many more players fail than make it in England.
I dont. But I do know that their main objective at the moment is to increase crowds. The way to do this is by having an entertaining and winning team. If we lose Dave, we haven't a hope of wining anythingQuote:
Originally Posted by OneRedArmy
TrueQuote:
Originally Posted by OneRedArmy
Having watched him now for a few months, he is a young player who is constantly improving. He is very dedicated and hard working. Barring a serious injury, which yes is a gamble, he will keep getting better.Quote:
Originally Posted by OneRedArmy
I wasnt trying to make out that it was clear cut, I was trying to say that both sides have said he's going nowhere, we're screwed in footballing terms if we lose him.Quote:
Originally Posted by OneRedArmy
The prize money available plus the bigger crowds the better we play would be worth more in the 3 seasons than under a million now imo. Maye the owners disagree but I would be absolutely shocked if he left for anything under a million.
This is a presumptiom. While I agree all EL clubs need the money, saying that Arkaga would find it hard to turn down the cash may not be true. Given that none of us know exactly why they're involved(its hardly for the profit they're making right now,, or imagined profit by selling players) there may be a lot more to it.Quote:
Originally Posted by OneRedArmy
Thats the problem of the team buying him. If they dont want to offer the money then grand. I honestly think we'l win the league next season if we keep him. Id imagine the owners would expect the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by OneRedArmy
I think the money he could make us in the time he's here would make it worth keeping him.
These are the same people who negotiated the deal for O Donovan. They payed hardball with Fulham then and got a great deal in the end. Id expect no different here
Off Topic I know but if the Transfer rumours of Doyle to Sunderland are true, wouldn't you be entitled to some money there? I seem to remember somebody on here saying that there was a Sell-On clause included in the deal that took Doyle to Reading. Somebody said a figure of 20%...
Definitely 20, maybe 25%.
As for Mooney,
Keane is on the case . . . . . how predictable.
At least him and his pub-owner consortium could be thrifty enough to be weeded out of a million sterling.
Care to quote precedent that goes wider than Kevin Doyle?Quote:
Originally Posted by joey4ireland
See above re the fact (and there are precious little of those in this thread) that the majority of EL transfers to England have failed to live up to their potential.
He's only worth the most clubs will pay for him.
I'd pay two mill for him if i had to but I don't think any club would need to.
If e1.2m is offered Arkaga will have to ask themselves can we make 1.2m out of keeping him.
Anyone know if Longford Town would be due anything if Mooney is sold on by Cork?
Nope, he was released along with the other players from Longford.Quote:
Originally Posted by Salmon Coloured
5% of any potential transfer fee will be distributed to all clubs that Mooney has played for since the age of 12.
http://www.fai.ie/index.php?option=c...d=29&Itemid=44
He was with Longford Town for three seasons so they would get 30% of the 5%, which is 1.5% of any future transfer fee. Rovers and whatever schoolboy clubs Mooney played for would also be due something as well.
Well yeah that's the case for every transfer, but I think he meant in terms of a contractual transfer clause the likes of which we have on doyle, bennett and o'donovan.Quote:
Originally Posted by DmanDmythDledge
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Originally Posted by GavinZac
are you sure? im sure when i read the papers that he went for 25k or maybe i have taken it up wrong??
Afaik that was a development fee because he was u23. He was out of contractQuote:
Originally Posted by Martinho II
Mooney wasnt released by Longford
Nor did Cork pay a transfer fee for him
His contract was up - so he was a free agent
This was the case with all Longford players - with the exception of Daire Doyle, he had a year to go on a two year contract
Yes Mooney's contract was up but Longford were owed money as micls says for a development fee as we'd had him for over two seasons and he was still under 23 under the regulations, the clubs agreed a figure of 25k to save it going to a tribunal and because we wanted the money in as quick as possible. With a tribunal it can take ages before you actually receive the money. Previous examples of this include Shels not paying for Cawley for about a year and Drogs taking months to pay us the 10k we were awarded for Gartland. Cork paid up promptly and in one sum apparently.