moronic booing at Lansdowne

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Originally posted by thecorner
a player got booed
big deal lads
ud swear a member of ur family died with the way ye r going on
get over it lads
dont be losing sleep over it

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It is a big deal. Bigots have no place at lansdowne road.

yeah, it is a big deal, a player got booed for no reason, it's not like he commited a bad foul, gestured to the crowd or was time wasting by his first touch, which you can accept.

i don't want these idiots at games, what comes next, booing national anthems, chucking coins at players taking corners. when irish fans go abroad they are invariably welcome where they land, if these idiots get a stranglehold on how we conduct ourselves at home, the reputation we have abroad is gone.

remember uefa have observers at every game who report on things like the fans, watch for racism, religious bigotry (which is what this booing is) etc. we could end up with a bad reputation and then come the fines.

it's easy to clean up too, england have sorted themselves out at home in two games, all it took was requests by the players and media coverage of the effort by the FA. in the last two games they've had no booing of the national anthem, no pitch invasions at goals, no racist chanting, but it took a uefa fine and disgusting anti-turk bigotry to wake them up.

what's it going to take to wake us up?

The booing of Glasgow Rangers players at Ireland international games has to be one of the sadest sights in recent years.

I think now that Rooney & the FAI have made known thats its unacceptable it can be stamped out fairly easily. All they have to do is make it known that people will be ejected from the ground for any sectarian abuse & i think people will think twice in future. Theres certainly enough stewards to enforce it. If Brian Kerr was to come out & stand against it would also shut people up quickely.

now that would be something. throwing them out would at least show people that the behaviour is unacceptable.

look at the foreign leagues and what they are trying to do to stop racism - same sort of thing.

I know it's not how things are done but if for arguments sake Colin Healy walked off when the booing had started I bet it wouldn't last that long! Now there's an idea (even though I can't take credit for it!)
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if a player from dublin said he would luv to scxore the winner against city for all the dublin fans would the city fans refrain from booing him
I DONT THNK SO

GET OVER IT LADS, HE GOT BOOED, ISNT THE FIRST AND CERTAINLY WONT BE THE LAST

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Originally posted by thecorner
if a player from dublin said he would luv to scxore the winner against city for all the dublin fans would the city fans refrain from booing him I DONT THNK SO

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ah come off it, thats completely different!!

have you not read any of the previous three pages?

did 'kick bigotry out' not register somewhere with you??

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

I doubt very much everyone who was booing had read about Aveladzes comments in the media prior to the match. Anyway how does that excuse the similar actions at the Denmark & Norway games?

More than anything else the booing is embarishing & so very very sad.

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Originally posted by pete
I doubt very much everyone who was booing had read about Aveladzes comments in the media prior to the match. Anyway how does that excuse the similar actions at the Denmark & Norway games?

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great point. this has already turned into a trend and won't stop unless action is taken. thecorner's post was the first time i'd even heard mention of any comments attributed to averladze by the way, so i don't think it was widely known.

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Originally posted by pete
I doubt very much everyone who was booing had read about Aveladzes comments in the media prior to the match. Anyway how does that excuse the similar actions at the Denmark & Norway games?

More than anything else the booing is embarishing & so very very sad.

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Yeah totally agree Pete, it makes me cringe with embarassment every time it happens. Our games are being broadcast across Europe on Sky so imagine what a lot of people must think of us, it makes us come across as a bunch of small minded, no-brained idiots.

Corner, the booing has nothing to do with the players comments and I think you know that but you are, for some strange reason, trying to justify the unjustifiable. The people booing are idiots, I'd say it is a tiny number of people behind it and that kids and sad wannabe republicans join in and it comes across as if far more people are doing it.

It has now happened against Georgia, Norway, Denmark (when they booed the wrong player:rolleyes: ) and the USA. It is something which has got to be stamped out.

Sport is sport:(

It's nasty having such baboon's supporting Ireland.

Education is the only way forward:ball:

Think it'll be a while before any Rangers player comes to Lansdowne again though - there used to be an Australian with Rangers, but he went to Wolves I think. Russia don't have any, though I stand corrected on that. That'll bring us on to next year's friendlies before this comes up again - hope it doesn't get buried with the time gap...:(

Another thing this affects is Ireland's chances of getting into Europe via the Fair Play award - respect of the crowd for opposition players is one of UEFA's criteria for deciding the winner of the European fair play table. Probably didn't make a huge difference at the end of the day (i.e. probably didn't do Cork out of a place in Europe this season), but it's not the sort of thing to let grow.

Kevin Muscat I believe is the player now with Wolves. They'll boo him too, mark my words! And isn't Craig Moore from Oz as well?

yeah,

muscat and moore will probably get a booing too unless the fai get off their behinds and ask a few of the players and public officials to come out against it.

start with bonner and healy and break the link between the booing and celtic first.

if they cant take the booing, maybe they should consider a career like nursing or some other womans thing

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Originally posted by thecorner
if they cant take the booing, maybe they should consider a career like nursing or some other womans thing

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Now you are only trying to wind people up with a comment like that!

no im not
fans pay good money
they r entitled to boo a player

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Originally posted by thecorner
nursing or some other womans thing

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Very mature... Sexist as well are we? :rolleyes:

By the way, I'm not a nurse! :D

there is nothing that can be done about it. its all part of the game. i also feel its stupid and embarrising. but at least we know that its not EL fans that are booing its the so called CELTIC fans, ya know that team that is as irish as we are and if thats not sarcasim i dont know what is.

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Originally posted by thecorner
no im not
fans pay good money
they r entitled to boo a player

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:rolleyes: come off it, by that rationale, they're entitled to boo while the national anthem is being played. they're entitled to crap on the seat (that they paid good money for), they're entitled to burn the irish flag the child in front is holding (he was waving it and blocking my view, i paid good money...blah blah).

there's a difference between booing a player because he's dirty and just broke someones leg in a tackle and because he worships a different deity to idiot celtic fans (which in arveladze's case he doesn't, he got booed at rangers for blessing himself coming on the field, what does he have to do!)

anyone that boos a player solely because he plays with a team that is predominantly associated with a religion is a Bigot , pure and simple and they should be turfed out of the ground.

Sad is the only word for them.

These same people were so shocked when Neil Lennon was booed.

Should have a look at the letters to the Sports Editior in the Examiner Arena Section today, sad petty little people.

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Originally posted by drummer boy
there is nothing that can be done about it. its all part of the game. i also feel its stupid and embarrising. but at least we know that its not EL fans that are booing its the so called CELTIC fans, ya know that team that is as irish as we are and if thats not sarcasim i dont know what is.

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The corner is an eL fan.

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Originally posted by sadloserkid
Kevin Muscat I believe is the player now with Wolves. They'll boo him too, mark my words! And isn't Craig Moore from Oz as well?

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Doh, forgot about that...:(

Another stupid comment in the letters page in the Irish Times yesterday - I paid into the ground so I'm entitled to boo who I want, citing free speech as his reason. There has to be a limitation to free speech and free action - you can have it, but only if you're responsible with it. The US is the worst for abusing it - the country and its people seem to think they can do what they want because they want to (invade countries, own guns, etc.) Free speech is only available if it's not abused, and booing someone for the sole reason that he plays/played with a team with Protestant associations is an abuse of free speech and should be stopped.

spot on pineapple stu,

the freedom of speech does not cover religious bigotry (in the same way it doesn't cover racist abuse, incitement to hatred or incitement to riot, which are criminal offences) and people who try and pull that stroke are trying to twist well intentioned liberal law for what is the polar opposite of those laws original intention, the protection of the individual and individual liberties.

One last point which mightbe of interest -

There was a "Do what you feel" day in one episode of the Simpsons. The idea was that everyone could do what they wanted because they wanted to. The result was that the town very quickly ended up losing all sense of civilisation and ended up beating first each other up, and then chasing after Bart to beat him up. All because they did what they wanted without any consideration for the effects of it.

It may only be a cartoon, but surely it serves to highlight what can happen if everybody takes free speech to the extreme?

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Originally posted by pineapple stu
One last point which mightbe of interest -

There was a "Do what you feel" day in one episode of the Simpsons. The idea was that everyone could do what they wanted because they wanted to. The result was that the town very quickly ended up losing all sense of civilisation and ended up beating first each other up, and then chasing after Bart to beat him up. All because they did what they wanted without any consideration for the effects of it.

It may only be a cartoon, but surely it serves to highlight what can happen if everybody takes free speech to the extreme?

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comparing the el to the simpsons

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Originally posted by thecorner
comparing the el to the simpsons

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What's your point? Given that the Simpsons is social commentary on real life it makes sense.

Besides this thread isn't even about the eL!!!!! :rolleyes:

Celtic and Rangers are Scottish you know? :p

sadloserkid

how come you havent been stabbed yet:confused: :confused:

sounds to me like you've run out of arguments for bigotry thecorner.

and just because the simpsons is a cartoon doesn't mean the team of writers behind it don't have a social conscience and the desire to occasionally use their medium to make a statement on the state of the world.

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Originally posted by thecorner
no im not
fans pay good money
they r entitled to boo a player

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I have no problem with booing, once there's a reason for it. I'd love to follow the approach of eastern european fans who boo every opposition player and really intimidate them. But this rubbish of booing a fella just cos of the club he plays for is stupid- wy aren't we booing harte and kelly for playing for leeds, or o'shea for playing for man utd? I mean come on like Why don't we boo richard dunne, cos some man city fans support rangers?! It's rubbish, perpetrated by barstoll jockey fools and it makes me sick.

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Originally posted by thecorner
sadloserkid

how come you havent been stabbed yet:confused: :confused:

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Because I'm not as prone to talking rubbish as you I'd imagine? :)

thats surprising cos all uve talked on in this topic is rubbish

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Originally posted by thecorner
thats surprising cos all uve talked on in this topic is rubbish

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pot...kettle...black
(do i need to remind you of your nurses comment).;)