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Exactly, grim.;)Quote:
Originally Posted by SligoBrewer
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Originally Posted by SligoBrewer
Thats actually funny. Foyzer- clearly not going to get fit, if he wanted to he would have done it by now
Judge- Doesn't put in the effort, simple as
Mckenzie_dodgy and not a very good player. This is clear when peers is not playing. If you watch closely peers does all the donkey work on his own.
O'grady- Not near as good as the central midfielders who play for the top five teams.
That doesn't leave much of a spine. However if we can bring in a decent centre back, centre midfielder,a left back and two strikers we will be ok for next season, thats asking a lot with a tight budget. As sligoman said its no different to any other season things always look bleak for us at the start of the season. I just really hope we can hold on to cooke and give him a bit of money to buy some decent players.
reality is that we're not going to have the 20,000 a week that cooks says suffice for us to be able to compete, so we'll just have to hope we can do okay on whatever we do have available.
the funny thing is.
connor could have had for free last season if he was such a good judge of a player. not be spending cash now.
It's better to lose players and get a fee than to lose them on a free transfer. How long is Coleman signed for? Sligo should not let him leave without getting a serious transfer fee for him. More appearances with the U-21 will get him interest from England or Scotland, where the transfer fee would far surpass what Bohs, Drogs or St. Pats would pay. Plus better for his career.
Agree with all the above.I for one am very dissappointed to see Faz go.I would have been one of his biggest critics last season while playing under Connors but this season he has been the clubs best player by far sorry with exception of Peers and Coleman.Quote:
Originally Posted by redrov2005
We will never be anymore than a club floating round the relegation place's unless we get the local business community involved and a cheif executive in to run the club.Gone are the Days that a community based club can survive in the league of Ireland.We all know the potential we have as club to draw in support when doing well on the pitch and this can only be achieve with major investment, something that cannot be achieved by funds raised with lotto draws etc that is for junior clubs not a professional clubs.I don't want to start to run down the commitee as to be fair they do alot of hard work week in ,week out but if they cant see that even with all their hard work we as a club are no better of than we were 10/15 yrs ago.The club will not be in the premier Division for much longer if the club continues in its present form we simply have to look to the future not season to season.
Its time the direction of the club changes!
I agree but the question is how do we all start the process towards that change from where we are now. Surely the only way is thro' the current MC, at the AGM, thro' the forum etc. So we need a plan & to make those people who have voluntarily kept the club going that we are not criticising or being ungrateful to them for their hard work down the years. It is just that times change. Also need to accept that the best person/people to help us may not be from Sligo - we need people who view things differently to move us forward.
But in the meantime can we put our hands in our pockets now to give Paul funds - no use doing that a week before or week into the league campaign. We need 400 club members, lotto sales, season tickets etc in the bank before a ball is kicked - if we did get in funds & pitch was worked on guys like Faz may believe things are going to change!
regarding the question of raising funds. i mentioned this on several occasions in previous posts especially referring to the lotto. but i noticed with all the talk on this board there was a very poor response to my plea. i have currently taken in approx 5k in the last 4 weeks. my plan is simple i have informed friends family acquaintances that sligo rovers lotto can be done online. a simple strategy is to offer people with credit cards the oppurtunity to enter for 1 year at a cost of E92.00 (this gives them 46 entries plus 6 free)they either do a quick pick or select 4 numbers . thats it simple. also you can get the lotto plus card from frank beirne. a years suscription here is e100 but you are allowed two lots of numbers of 4 into the draw every week. great value. also if one cannot afford to pay upfront e100.00 theycan do direct debit at e10.00 x 10 months. now any helpers out there willing to promote lotto this way. it can be promoted by e mail , by word of mouth. my target is 8k by x mas. and i will do it. any ody else willing to make the committment. action speaks louder than words. the club needs help now.contact frank beirne or e mail me privately. i will meet anybody.
nice bit of fightin talk from cook in the weekender about faz and he's spot on, should tell drogheda to not be wasting their time until they make a serious offer of at least 50,000
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i agree with cookie on the need to keep our best players and build a team around them unless someone comes in with a really good offer but do we really want to keep a player (talkin about any player here and not just faz) that doesnt want to stay, a player whoose effort and attitude might worsen because they werent allowed to go and ultimatlely will leave for nothing anyway,
We're talking about a professional footballer here whose career depends on his form and his attitude. Should Cookie decide to go against Faz's wish and hold on to him then the play has to honour the contract. It's more in the interest of the player that he performs to the best of his ability while he plays out the remainder of the contract for obvious reasons. Only unless the player is a complete ****artist )which Faz is not) will he not want to impress other clubs to come in for him.
what age is faz? .... 22 i think. Correct me if i am wrong but therefore we will be entitled to a fee for him even when he is out of contract at the end of the season.
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Originally Posted by sligored
the paper last week said he was 23.
Rovers have turned down 30,000 for Faz. See Below.
http://www.eleven-a-side.com/eircoml...p?newsid=30425
good stuff
What a pathetic offer.Quote:
Originally Posted by redrov2005
that offer is an insult to the club and player himself. it's s*ite when a club like drogheda try to pull off stunt like this.shows perception of our club in the league:mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by Kivlehan
Not an insult to SRFC just business sense by Drogheda.
Start low and increase the Transfer Amount on offer in increments until accepted we would do the same if we were in Drogheda's position........then again rumours be believed the debts have built up there already.
Are you saying Drogs are in dept?Quote:
Originally Posted by Guts&Glory
good business sense ? if faz was with another team his transfer fee would start alot higher. they'd want to up to at least 70k plus add ons.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guts&Glory
What player has transferred within the league for anything over E40k?
Zayed?Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Not sure about him. Byrne did, but he was worth it.
Point is, talk of E50k or E70k like on here is surely pie in the sky unless he goes abroad.
Fair enough but if they think he's worth over 50k then they shouldn't sell him for less just because it's an EL club.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
True, but a value of E50k would make him one of the most expensive (and, you would have to infer the best) players in the league's history. Which he's not.
Shane Barrett, LTFC to Drogs, 50k apparently.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
My point was that its good business sense for Drogheda to keep increasing their bid until Rovers bite which given Faz has put in a transfer request they most likely will.Quote:
Originally Posted by neutrino
Why offer over 70k or whatever when you can go 20k, 30k, 40k and the selling team bites at 50k......basic economics and logic.
Would you offer 7grand for a car you think you can get for
4k?
I dont think so.
Rovers, or any other club would do the same in Droghedas position , most if not all transfer bids in woprldfootball are a negotiation process of seller aiming high buyer offering low until they meet somewhere in the middle.
Let's Get real.
I see what your saying G&G and your absolutely right - just worried that becuase we are Sligo Rovers we'll end up losing faz for less that what he's worth to us. that's all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guts&Glory
Why sell him within the league? Any chance we could get a Scottish team or a lower league English team interested and get more?
any chance we could just hold onto him and stop being a feeder club for all other clubs in the LOI, or england.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kivlehan
turner,burns,turner,mansaram,singh,hughes some of the better players to play for rovers over the last 2/3 years, all gone to other clubs in the league, we have to start tryin to hold onto players or else we wont have any chance of making any improvment on our league position!
I would think the strategy that would lead to greater long term success would be to sell players off and reinvest in developing more quality young players to sell off for higher and higher fees. This would be a repeatable business model and one that would ultimately allow a financial model that affords keeping good enough players to win the league.
At least that works for me on Football Manager :)
Ideally this would be the ideal strategy to acheiving success over the long term.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kivlehan
However this would be dependant on many many factors which just dont exist at Sligo Rovers at present.It's very very hard to see how changes can be implemented and I think it will take something radical to happen for such changes to come about.
For now we will have to work as we are and just continue to support our club as we have been doing. The people at the club do great work and we should all continue to support them and the club in anyway we can !! The season ahead could be a long one but am still looking forward to new season !!