how do you figure that GT , no way they would have a draw that early surely ? the lion king dancers would be kicking off after breakfast at that rate!Quote:
Originally Posted by Green Tribe
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how do you figure that GT , no way they would have a draw that early surely ? the lion king dancers would be kicking off after breakfast at that rate!Quote:
Originally Posted by Green Tribe
did someone say we are definitely 3rd pot?
Maybe, but they are about 2-3 hours ahead I think. I seriously cannot wait til the draw, feeling all nervous and excited at the same time :eek::DQuote:
Originally Posted by RogerMilla
The pots are listed on the first page of this threadQuote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
1958. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by mypost
The thing isn't necessarily qualifying from the play-offs, but just reaching them gives you a chance and some sense of achievement from the campaign. Even when we lost to Russia 2 campaigns ago I was gutted but proud of what we had achieved. But we'd never achieve that in a 7 or 8 team group because the consistency wouldn't be there, injuries and suspensions would take their toll too.
good result for your boys last night Cymro, surely Toshack can blood a few of those youngsters in the next campaign? If we had beaten France 4-2 last night at that level this place would be in meltdown :)
Future looks quite good to be fair, but those players won't all make it at senior international level. Hopefully they all get a good start in their club careers though and 3 or 4 will graduate to become proper senior internationals.
Word on the street it is at 4pm our time
The draw takes place next Sunday afternoon, 25th November, in Durban, starting 4pm (CET), 3pm our time. The seedings will be based on the latest FIFA rankings which will be published on 23rd November.Quote:
Originally Posted by Green Tribe
Thanks for the confirmed time, now I need to plan my Sunday afternoon :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Superhoops
The Good
Czech Republic: They were there for the taking in this group. Wouldn't mind Germany either. I fancy us at home against anyone, and they won't drop any points at home, leaving us in a straight fight with the 2nd seed. Would prefer that to a side you can never be sure of, like England. It would be all we need for England to loose at home to the 4th seed.
Russia: Looked terrible against Israel. Plus, we owe them a hiding. Wouldn't mind Scotland. Ukraine could be OK with Shevhenkos powers waning
Slovakia: Looked a bad lot in this campaign.
Liechtenstein: Yes please, 6 points
Luxembourg: Even worse. Not to far into eastern Europe either.
The Bad
England or Holland: Never know if they will show up. Bet they would against us though
Poland: Ran away with their group.
Cyprus: Their home record is now looking strong
Iceland: The Gudjohnson factor. Nice away day though
Montenegro: False position. Surely only below Liechtenstein cos they are new.
The Ugly (A Balkan nightmare??)
Croatia - Awkward game in Split
Serbia - Awkward game in Belgrade
Macedonia or Bosnia
Azerbiajan/Belarus - Good luck finding a decent hotel
Montenegro - Unknown quantity. New country
Belgium would be better avoided. It might not survive 2 years as a country and points could be left flying everywhere after the event.
I'd be delighted to avoid any trips to eastern europe. Though the chances of us ending our shocking away record against anybody of note are very remote, i figure we'd have no chance out east.
Thus I'll be hoping to avoid Romania, Serbia, Ukraine, Poland and Russia out of the second seeds.
Same goes for Macedonia, Georgia, Moldova and Albania in the fourth pot, and Armenia, Lithuania, Belarus, Azerbiajan, Kazakhstan of the rest.
Some christmas list eh??
Not to mention Croatia amongst the top seeds. They look excellent.Quote:
Originally Posted by ofjames
Out of the top seeds I reckon we'd be better off getting the Czech Rep again or the Dutch who seem a bit inconsistent.
In fact England are probably the worst of the top seeds.
Croatia looked class tonight, thoroughly outplayed England in tough conditions. I'd say they're ones to avoid.
The Czechs aren't to be underestimated either as they did win our group above Germany, who some are tipping to win the Euros.
I'd take England on the basis of tonight.
Most if not all of the first seeds will get there.
So it's down to the other 44 to scrap for 4 places...
I watched a bit of Cyprus vs Czech Rep on eurosport. The Czechs were very poor.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cymro
did england drop to second second seeds after last night does anyone know, as romania won!?
yes citizen they did
latest rankings are
R Country Pts
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1 Italy 1498
2 Spain 1349
3 Germany 1296
4 Czech Republic 1290
5 France 1243
6 Portugal 1241
7 Netherlands 1170
8 Croatia 1129
9 Greece 1114
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10 England 1113
11 Romania 1088
12 Scotland 990
13 Turkey 914
14 Bulgaria 879
15 Sweden 864
16 Russia 861
17 Poland 855
18 Israel 849
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19 Serbia 842
20 Norway 831
21 Ukraine 811
22 Denmark 786
23 Northern Ireland 784
24 Ireland 739
25 Finland 699
26 Switzerland 663
27 Belgium 595
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28 Slovakia 592
29 Hungary 581
30 Bosnia-Herzegovina 578
31 Moldova 573
32 Macedonia 555
33 Wales 553
34 Belarus 552
35 Lithuania 542
36 Cyprus 502
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37 Georgia 407
38 Albania 397
39 Slovenia 396
40 Latvia 392
41 Iceland 384
42 Armenia 370
43 Austria 354
44 Kazakhstan 294
45 Liechtenstein 261
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46 Azerbaijan 248
47 Estonia 225
48 Malta 185
49 Luxembourg 127
50 Montenegro 65
51 Andorra 59
52 Faroe Islands 13
53 San Marino 6
to be confirmed offically tomorrow though
Sorry if I missed something, but BELGIUM, what?Quote:
Originally Posted by backtowalsall
Have a peek hereQuote:
Originally Posted by zenokelly
If I have been following this properly England could be either a 1st or 2nd seed, depending on the rankings set to be released on the 23rd?
I think it would be good if we got them as 1st seeds. Due to the majority of out squad playing in England, it could be just the thing to make the players put in that extra bit of effort for all the games and not just the ones against the big teams. They will really get the feeling that every point counts to pull away from or to keep up with England in the table. It shouldn't be necessary but might be just the thing to put some extra pride back into wearing the green shirt, which has been lacking for some players over the last 5 years or so.
i agree with that. i would fancy taking at leat 3 points off England, and there are not to many other top seeds I can say that sentiment applies to.Quote:
Originally Posted by Irish_Praha
Breakig News on BBC that Romania have over taken England in the rankings and are therefore in pot one ahead of England. Kind of changes the group of death for us though, now it is
Italy
England
Us
Bosnia
Belarus
Montenegro
Is it Sunday the draw is on? RTE? I would LOVE to get England and Norn Iron. Love it :)
from fifa.com
On Sunday at 16:00 CET (15:00 GMT, 17:00 local time), the eyes of the footballing world will turn to Durban for the Preliminary Draw for the 2010 FIFA World Cup South Africa™.
FIFA General Secretary Jerome Valcke is the Master of Ceremonies for the event, which begins with the Stage Three draw for the Asian Zone. The North, Central America and Caribbean Zone is the next confederation to come under the spotlight, with the first three stages of their preliminary campaign decided upon in Durban.
Approximately an hour into proceedings, Europe will be buzzing with anticipation when its 53 teams are divided into nine qualifying groups.
before the evening rounds off with the draw for the African Zone, where 48 teams will be placed into 12 groups of four teams
Draw is on ITV/UTV and Sky Sports NewsQuote:
Originally Posted by an_ceannaire
We can't draw N. Ireland so you unfortunately will not see those fans who apparently hate you so much ;):DQuote:
Originally Posted by an_ceannaire
19 Serbia 842
20 Norway 831
21 Ukraine 811
22 Denmark 786
23 Northern Ireland 784
24 Ireland 739
25 Finland 699
26 Switzerland 663
27 Belgium 595
AH FCUK!! damn them and their recent improvements!!! :D
would have loved it! But hopefull the 5 Nations tourny will fix that for me :)
might not be a bad idea to try and get the Aussies involved. They play so many "home" games in England anyways! I would think they would relish the chance.
Anyone remember the time they beat, I think beat, England in England a few years back. Viduka scored, A Milwall Cahill was playing that day. Franny Jeffers was up front for England that day!!! :D
We could draw Israel again though :rolleyes::mad:Quote:
Originally Posted by an_ceannaire
Seedings Officially announced.
Pot A
Italy
Spain
Germany
Czech Republic
France
Portugal
Netherlands
Croatia
Greece
Pot B
England
Romania
Scotland
Turkey
Bulgaria
Russia
Poland
Sweden
Israel
Pot C
Norway
Ukraine
Serbia
Denmark
Northern Ireland
Republic of Ireland
Finland
Switzerland
Belgium
Pot D
Slovakia
Bosnia-Herzegovina
Hungary
Moldova
Wales
FYR Macedonia
Belarus
Lithuania
Cyprus
Pot E
Georgia
Albania
Slovenia
Latvia
Iceland
Armenia
Austria
Kazakhstan
Azerbaijan
Pot F
Liechtenstein
Estonia
Malta
Luxembourg
Montenegro
Andorra
Faroe Islands
San Marino
Happy if we got the czechs or the greeks, or maybe just avoiding england
No Scandinavian countries, bar Sweden, no Switzerland either. :)
And no, Liechtenstein didn't move up a pot.
How about Greece, Scotland, Wales, Austria, Andorra? Should have a great chance in that group, no dodgy trips either.
what we'll get:Quote:
Originally Posted by eirebhoy
Italy (haven't played them in years)
Sweden (haven't played them in years)
Ireland
Cyprus (a blast from the past)
Latvia
Luxembourg
what i want
Greece
Scotland
Ireland
Moldova
Iceland
Malta
The Jackpot:
Germany
Bulgaria,
Bosnia,
Slovenia,
Malta/SM
:)
cant get better than
Czechs
Israel
Ireland
Macedonia
Iceland
Andorra
Unless you mean away games!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Bungle
I WANT ENGLAND 1st AND FOREMOST..... and I will personally orchestrate the booing of their anthem. Their lack of respect for other nations is a disgrace. I know people are going to say we shouldnt sink to their level but i'll be fcked if theyre gonna get one over us
we shouldn't sink to their level.
i'll have england if shearer is their manager :)