We should have a "Beat the Bookies" thread more often.Quote:
Originally Posted by GuisaSaigon
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We should have a "Beat the Bookies" thread more often.Quote:
Originally Posted by GuisaSaigon
We should have more effective communication when a club is planning on fielding an understrength team.
They dont really exist do they :eek: heheQuote:
Originally Posted by GuisaSaigon
I have it from a close source that powers did not suffer a loss any way near that large
Same source confirmed that the very large percentage of bets backing Bray were placed online from locations outside of the country
Powers actually had a greater number of bets placed on Sligo - again mostly online, mostly inside the country - those placed in shops showed a normal/average distribution across their branch network
(thats a bell shaped distribution for the stats guys out there!)
I wonder if the FAI will have their suspicions piqued enough to have a chat with Betfair regarding their loftily titled 'Memorandum of Understanding' which was signed in recent weeks.
More about it on this thread here
My grandfather was once asked why he didn't gamble and or drink alcohol back in the 1950's. His reply '' When I see a bookmaker or publican in shabby clothes and poverty stricken, I'll take them up to help him out. Until then he doesn't need the business!'' :D
Presumably Longford, UCD & Waterford have been silent on this because they would have done exactly the same as Paul Cook in the same circumstances.
No sympathy for the bookies.
But is everyone accepting that it was fair play on Sligo's part?
As for the Sligo board meeting to discuss it.......unless it's to have a collective read of the Thank You card from Eddie Gormley & Co, I don't know what it's about.:confused:
Unless of course people were betting on a Bray victory that shouldn't have been.Quote:
But is everyone accepting that it was fair play on Sligo's part?
As for the Sligo board meeting to discuss it.......unless it's to have a collective read of the Thank You card from Eddie Gormley & Co, I don't know what it's about.
A much missed Irish pop combo from the mid 90s.Quote:
Originally Posted by feo123
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Originally Posted by gustavo
Nothing to do with us, we couldn't have caught Bray. We were more fooked up by Drogs fielding a weakened team against Waterford.Quote:
Originally Posted by MyTown
You can still see them in the Red Cow this Christmas if you really miss them...Quote:
Originally Posted by gustavo
Anyway the really big potential coup on the beat the bookies thread was Wexford Youths at 9/2 to beat Shels. It was always likely, just sorry I didn't put a few Euro on it myself.
Paddy Power PR spin, nothing more
In a weird way it legitimizes the league in the public eye too. People don't bet on park football.
This year I've had 4 massive (in my terms) LOI bets. All won. This wasn't one of them.
Boyles is usually the slowest to respond to team news.
Its for the bookies afaik as I know so they can adjust the odds as the gameQuote:
Originally Posted by Larry 'da' Wyse
goes on. German guy I know used to do it for Athlone's home games last
season for some crowd and a Chineese lad I work with was asked if he'd do
it for some other crowd this season.
Its not so they can adjust their odds as they wouldn't be betting in running. its more for general info so they know whaat they're betting on next game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ash
I layed Drogheda away to Bray over the bank holiday weekend earlier in the season, Aertel went up 1-1 FT, futbol24 went up 1-1 FT, then a full 15 minutes later (betfair settled on 1-1 in the meantime) the score went 1-2 as Drogs had scored one of their injury time specials. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by jebus
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Originally Posted by Dodge
It is for betting in running. I know a guy that does it for a web site from the Athlone Town press box every match
Fair enough, you find us an online bookmaker who bets on First Division games in-running.Quote:
Originally Posted by Battery Rover
"Paddy Power" doesnt own the company just works for them by chance has the same name as the company, worked out well for him though didnt itQuote:
Originally Posted by gustavo
If you believe thats his actual name...
Do they use a PDA for this?
There's a guy in the press box at the Brandywell, who is always tapping on a PDA during the game. Had a nosey at the screen and its some custom application running on it and when either team attack or have a corner etc, he taps the relevant button.
Always wondered what it was for, and yes I am a nosey fecker lol
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Originally Posted by Battery Rover
Yeah they do. I know the guy that does it from Finn Park and he was saying it's for some German siteQuote:
Originally Posted by dcfc_1928
Threads merged.
Its an info site. No bookmakers offers in running betting for first division games (or non TV premier games for that matter)Quote:
Originally Posted by harpskid
By in running I meant betting before match and at half time not minute by minuteQuote:
Originally Posted by Jaime
if I can see himat the Under 21 international tomorrow I will ask him the full detail of it
I know of a certain Eircom League player and manager who had quite alot on Bray to win. Won't mention names as i've no proof but the manager in question had a whooping 10000euro on it.
Player and manager? Player-manager? Or 2 different people?Quote:
Originally Posted by KR's Post
10,000 euros........are you sure?
If you have no proof then its idle speculationQuote:
Originally Posted by KR's Post
no bookmaker would have laid 10000 on an Eircom game that one side desperately need a result in and the other side it was meaningless match.
Manager had 10 grand and player had 3 grand. Very good source!Quote:
Originally Posted by osarusan
There have been whispers that players from a few clubs have been placing bets that they really shouldn't have. Very hard to prove though.
Oddly enough, the bookmakers in Asia DO bet in running on First Division games, friendlies, U21 matches and anything else they can get someone with a phone to. The guy with the phone just tells the Asian bookie when there has been a goal or there is a chance of a goal, then the in-running betting is suspended until the danger is clear.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
I couldn't believe myself till I saw the odds with my own eyes.
There was a guy on the forum here last year asking people to volunteer to relay the match "commentaries" to the bookies. He paid £50 a game.
You can't just open an account out of nowhere with these bookies though, you have to be referred to them by an existing account holder and then its all on a credit basis.
Not if the bookies have a two-way flow of information with the FAI (see start of thread) it isn't!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr A
Any sport where sums to be made from gambling are signficantly higher than the players wages (as is the case for most EL players) are ripe for abuse.
Although it is good to hear Powers getting hit!
A few seasons ago Ladbrokes got hammered for six figures on a handicap League title bet (handicapped Derry to finish 7th in SK's first full season) and I believe don't cover the EL anymore or at least don't offer that bet.
They did last year. And cover the league every week.Quote:
Originally Posted by OneRedArmy
And all it takes is for the players' wife/brother to place the bet.
Paddy Power and the rest were happy to lay Bray at the odds available, they were far from a giveaway. They started at 4/5 and were down to 2/7 in some places not what i would call punting material anyways. The hit taken on Rovers drogs was much more unexpected though i think that started somewhere around the 5/2-3/1 mark. Its a non story anyways from the mirror who seem to be in a league of their own for this ****e.
There was a case in the northern ireland league a few seasons ago though where some team got hammered 4-0 cant remember who was playing but the ifa signed one of them agreements with betfair soon after and ni prem league mathces have only recently become available again on that website.
I just don't see the issue. Why do the bookies have to be bullet proof and any time they actually take a relatively small hit is it some sort of issue? It seems to be taken as given that there's some sort of problem if they get caught in a situation where they can't deter everyone from betting on the right outcome.:confused:
As long as those gambling (and winning) aren't players or closely associated with either team I think most people would agree with that sentiment.Quote:
Originally Posted by Poor Student
It was indeed, and I caught Wexford :cool:. Plenty of first division players backing against themselves towards the end of the season in meaningless games!Quote:
Originally Posted by bholg
Just for the record Wexford were 9/2 with boyles to win that game ;):pQuote:
Originally Posted by Raheny Red
Hmm. It appears i was a little naive regarding the shels/wexford game. :(
looking forward to the end of next season already- bargain betting.
What about tomorrow night for the euro's - countries to field weak teams/not bother their arses because tables are already decided?
Wales for a miraculous win in Germany anyone? 10/1 on boyles. (5/1 - Draw)
Cyprus at home to czech 7/2 ??
Yeh lets be honest its not even whispers anymore.A lot of people naming players/teams backing themselves to lose in particular matches.Mischevious gossip?I hope so, its difficult to imagine a whole team agreeing to not try in a game without it leaking out.In any situation shirley there would be at least one player who would object.In a few years a film will be made about this one man who refuses to dirty his bib starring Russell Crowe.:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Mr A