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This is the last line in Brady's Wikipedia entry:
In 2007 Brady was linked to the Republic of Ireland manager's job after the sacking of Steve Staunton. However, Brady denied he was applying for the job and though he said he would discuss it if approached, he felt he was not the best candidate for the role. On 5th December 2007 however, Brady overtook Terry Venables as the favourite for the job. Bookies across the United Kingdom and Ireland have stopped taking bets on the former Juventus man.
[QUOTE=Stuttgart88;831989]Quinn backs Brady for top job
December 4, 2007
[I]Sunderland chairman Niall Quinn has backed former Arsenal and Ireland teammate Liam Brady to land the vacant Irish manager’s job.
Brady is seen as a close second-favourite behind Terry Venables to succeed Steve Staunton in the top job in Irish football.
And Quinn feels old club and country colleague Brady would be an excellent choice for the FAI, with his experience of improving younger players of particular relevance given Ireland’s current crop of promising but unproven tyros.
He told RTE Radio: “The Ireland job is a big job and the country has had years of success. There’s a lot of young players waiting to burst into the scene and emulate the team of 20 years ago.
“The secret to Ireland doing well is to get someone who can work with the young lads, help them make the step-up from having a few caps to actually going and achieving.
“The person that springs to my mind is Liam Brady, he’s one that all the players have serious respect for. People question his record at Celtic but it/QUOTE]
Quinn is full of crap...didnt we try this with brian kerr...he wouldnt get the respect of the players at all!!
[QUOTE=citizenerased;834374]While he would not be my first choice as our new manager that statement is nonsense.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
no way..his reputation as a player will mean nothing to the new players, plus he is droel enough..couldnt imagine him motivating anyone....I will be distraught if he gets it..ffs
It's also nonsense about the Wikipedia info that Bookies have stopped taking bets on Liam.
According to today's Indo he became favourite for a while yesterday.
Suddenly Tel boy is starting to look attractive as is Roddy Collins. Brady was a great player but he failed miserably and totally as a manager twice.
Maybe this is just a silly game with terrible candidates being put forward so there will be a sigh of relief when somebody halfway capable gets the job.
Niall Quinn: "The secret to Ireland doing well is to get someone who can work with the young lads, help them make the step-up from having a few caps to actually going and achieving."
Is this true?
The core of the squad as far as I'm concerned should include experienced players like:
Given
Finnan
Dunne,
O'Brien
Keane
Doyle
Hunt
Duff
A. Reid
S. Reid
O'Shea
Kilbane
Lee
Morrisson
Of the "youth" only Stephen Ireland, Aiden McGeady and McShane are likely starters in my opinion.
Long & Stokes have some way to go yet and in hindsight should probably have been in the U21s all last year. Garvan, O'Toole and maybe McCann should be integrated, maybe also Keogh.
Other players that I feel should figure in some way include Michael Doyle, Jay Tabb and Mark Yeates. Doyle is 26 or thereabouts now I reckon and the other two are overage for the U21s.
While every appointment has an element of a gamble involved - Brady would be a big gamble.
Brady has my utmost respect as a talented former player. A genuine great talent.
He's not the answer for us as a manager.
The bottom line is that he has limited Managerial experience and has achieved nothing at Managerial level.
The bookies have done the obvious and identified the link that Brady has to all members of the selection panel.
He was one of our best ever players. If they don't give some respect, at least at the beginning, as a result of that then there is something seriously wrong. I would like to say again though, he would not be my first choice for the job. As has been pointed out, his managerial record is pretty poor to say the least.Quote:
Originally Posted by citizenerased
doyle is only 24 max..i think
July '81 so he's 26 (after a quick reference to Tetsujin's website). Same age as Miller and a better player in my opinion, not as skillful but far more effective. International standard? Probably not but given the sheer number of people Stan picked you'd think Doyle would have been given a look.
jaysus...had it in my head he was younger..suppose he has been in the squad nearly two years now
I think you're thinking of the wrong Doyle. He's referring to Michael Doyle.Quote:
Originally Posted by citizenerased
apologies...lol...thats what ya get when you just glance at threads...
Did Quinn hire Brady as Sunderland manager then? No , and he was damn right not to.
The secret to being Ireland manager is winning matches and Brady is not the best man for the job. Quinn can pontificate all he wants , i just hope the selection team are not listening.
Brady would be the FAI's stage 3 of a 3 stage plan to ruin the national team. Great player but would have Given's like run ins with some of this current group of players. And that is not what we need at this time.
One of the many attacks on Brady the player by Dunphy. He wrote this after Ireland had squandered a 2-0 lead against Holland at Dalymount. Holland came back and won 3-2.
Taken from Wikepedia
After Ireland lost a two goal lead against Holland in 1983 Dunphy wrote about Liam Brady:
"" He is often looked on as a great player. He is nothing of the kind. His performance on Wednesday was a disgrace, a monument to conceit adorned with vanity and self-indulgence, rendered all the more objectional by the swagger of his gait. He was deemed by many observers to have had a splendid game.""
Brady was brilliant in the first half of that game. Gullit ran the show in the second half.
yeah, but the PA announcer cost us the game. everyone, including the Irish defence, was looking at the shed roof thinking imminent death was on the cards while Gullit headed in a corner at 2-2.
The shed bouncing up and down. Was that nutters or the wind? Can't remember. Also Grealish got injured near the end of the first half and for some reason Hand kept him on the park. We only had ten fit players for the rest of the match. Only for the Dutch keeper(van Breauklen? who looked like he was very fond of his pomme frites) we would have been 5-0 up at half-time. I can remember one incredible ball from Brady to Stapleton who hammered it with his head goalwards only for the Dutch keeper to get his fingertips on it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
Quinn was one of the more openly anti-Kerr pundits right from the start. He's not so much interested in a manager who can "work with the young lads" as a manager who was "one of the lads", an ex-teammate, which is why all the old players were delighted to see Staunton get the job last time. I suspect that Houghton would also be of the opinion that reputation as a player, respect of the dressing room, blah-blah are the most important factors which would explain why Brady's odds have shortened since he joined the panel.Quote:
Originally Posted by citizenerased
This would be a major step back pure and simple.
One thing I will say for Brady is that he does coach more attractive, footballing football.
The ball will be played on the ground, and this more stylish approach may suit the players we have, and bring us more success against continental teams.
Despite his inability to win the league at Celtic, they played very attractive, good football by all accounts.
Great point. Is it unreasonable to expect the appointment of a manager who has had success.Quote:
Originally Posted by RogerMilla
Or even a little bit of success as opposed to only failure.
Who cares about attractive football? This is international football, we play less than ten times per year. Give it a lash Jack! Long live ugly, long ball!
We don't have strong, physical players.Quote:
Originally Posted by Colbert Report
Our best players are skill players, footballers who like to play with the ball on the ground- Keane, Andy Reid, McGeady, Duff, Ireland.
Hoofing it up to our under 6 foot forwards Keane and Doyle won't do anything, we need to work it around midfield and down the wings, keeping it on the ground.
If our core was big physical players I'd have no problem going back to the big Jack style of play, but we don't have those players, and need to mold our playing style to accommodate the players we've got.
Id sooner Brady get the job than that over the hill chancer Venables ...
Would still go for Jol myself!
bhs
haha brady got celtic to play attractive football.
even stan could be get someone to pass the ball around against dundee and falkirk.
brady hasnt a chance of getting the job either does venables. o'leary will be choosen ahead of those two at least
I have a hard time believing that Wenger would allow a coach as **** as you all believe to manage his young superstars in the making.
brady doesnt coach at arsenal
he's a director of the academy.
steve bould does all the coaching.
It's an entirely different role. Hes tried management twice. And failed twice.Quote:
Originally Posted by irishfan86
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Originally Posted by Jerry The Saint
Excellent signature. We were discussing the job at xmas drinks last night, and one of the guys who I felt knew his stuff was practically jizzing off at the thought of Brady being manager. Couldn't understand it myself.
The only negative utterings about Brady were that his stance on problem players (a la S**pan), insofar as he indicated he would be unlikely to try solve a problem but very likely to eradicate it.
Brady has done f#ck all as a manager so from an FAI perspective he's a shoe in:eek:
It's a joke.
Being a great player does not automatically make you a great manager.
And as for the suggestion that Wenger wouldn't allow a sh#te manager/coach like Brady to look after his youth...well....how may of those youth players does Wenger actually put any faith in ????
???? ****loads. Just happens that none of them are English and some are at other clubs initially but he'd have worked with the likes of Fabregas and Clichy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Desyf
The youth system at the Arse is one of the best, most holistically orientated, around. Some credit must go to Brady for that. Of course, however, that has little or nothing to do with being a suitable candidate for our manager.
agree completely with thisQuote:
Originally Posted by kingdom hoop
No Way - No Brady Bunch
Id actually be quite happy with him, not my number one choice but i would still be happy. Just listeng to him on RTE it is plainly obvious that he really knows his stuff and is very good on the technical side of the game, unlike Giles and Dunphy. And as a few people have pointed out, he will get us playing good attracitve football, which is what we have the players for. Simply put we dont have the squad to play the long ball physical game anymore. Cyprus were head and shoulders above us in stature and bossed us in the physical aspects of both our recent encounters. The only thing is that iwould want a very capable coach with Brady, someone of the standard of Hughton. Any man that has been learning from Wenger for the past 10 years has to be cosidered IMO
hughton is extremely overrated as a coach.Quote:
Originally Posted by carloz
ramos and alvarez have been reportedly shocked by the standard of coaching that was happening under jol.
hughton was mainly a defense coach for a team with a terrible defense record
Hughton just came out and advocated Venables too, suggesting the Jol/Hughton ticket is a non-runner. Hughton cited Venables' "aura".
There is no way Brady will get the job..
I just laid £20 against him getting thew job at 3.3