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24/10/2007, 12:58 PM
Schumi

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Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

No great surprise to see a UCD fan asserting the supremacy of the coin-toss over sensible considerations such as capacity, spectacle, fit for purpose etc when determining where big games should be played.....

:D

And no surprise to see a Northerner wanting the rules changed to suit themselves. If you drew Manchester United in Europe would you move your home leg to Old Trafford to make more money and have a better spectacle?
24/10/2007, 1:01 PM
R�iteoir

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Originally Posted by Mr A

In that case the league cup final should have been at Dalymount surely.

That's what Setanta led us to believe when they requested we move games in the League to facilitate TV coverage for them earlier in this season (which we did - despite taking a hit on attendance figures) - something along the lines of:

"Ah lads, we love coming to Dalymount as it's so good for us to cover games at - ground is perfect for broadcasting from. Move these matches and we'll basically guarantee you'll have the League Cup Final at Dalymount should you get there this season..."

RRS by the TV lot...
24/10/2007, 1:02 PM
Sam_Heggy

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Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

At least 6,000 when we can use the standing areas

How much of this 6,000 capacity is the standng area behind that bus shelter of yers in the terraced end?

As for the viewing of the game, at least you are close enough to the pitch at FP, to make out the players.

Anywhoo, If its in Ballybofey, Derry or Cobh, the home team won the draw/ coin toss, so this sh!te aint goin to change a thing.
24/10/2007, 1:28 PM
kev mcq

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Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

At least 6,000 when we can use the standing areas (i.e. not Europe). It used to be as high as 8,000, but since we put seats into the old Jungle this will have dropped. Someone else may have a better idea of the current official capacity currently, but we had at least 6,000 at last year's League Cup Final versus Shelbourne.

At least 20% less than the Brandywell would hold, and we should sell-out a single-legged play-off between us, so less income for both clubs if it was held at Finn Park.

Were there not less than 5,000 at the sell-out Cup game between us in Finn Park last month ? If so - where is the extra capacity you're now talking about going to come from? :confused:

As for the Brandywell looking 'cack' on TV.....?!? :o Aye - cuz Finn Harps looks like the Field of Dreams...... :D

Well the thing about Finn Park is that on tv you can see the crowd in the stand as well as behind the goals, especially the town end, which has been packed for the last nuber of games. In he Brandywell, you can not see any of the crowd because they are so far from the pitch, so I honestly think Finn Park looks better if anyhting
24/10/2007, 3:03 PM
fbtn

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Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

So your biggest game of the year crowd-wise, and you still couldn't sell it out ? :eek: But you still think Finn Park would have a bigger crowd for a one-legged play-off than the Brandywell...?

P.S. Subtle clue as to why I wasn't there. Look at the top right-hand side of every single post I make.... :)

Where did I say that we'd have a bigger crowd in Finn Park than if the match was played at the Brandywell? Subtle clue - I didn't. :rolleyes:

Take your time reading it this time...... There would be well over 5000 in Finn Park for it is what I said.
24/10/2007, 3:39 PM
CollegeTillIDie

Ok Harps and Derry fans neither of your grounds is so crap that it couldn't be hidden by a capacity crowd.. satisfied? :D
24/10/2007, 3:44 PM
Sam_Heggy

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Originally Posted by CollegeTillIDie

Ok Harps and Derry fans neither of your grounds is so crap that it couldn't be hidden by a capacity crowd.. satisfied? :D

yup :D
24/10/2007, 3:49 PM
CollegeTillIDie

Well stuff the joint wherever the playoff is held :D
24/10/2007, 5:12 PM
dcfcsteve

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Originally Posted by CollegeTillIDie

Ok Harps and Derry fans neither of your grounds is so crap that it couldn't be hidden by a capacity crowd.. satisfied? :D

Deal ! :)

You free to start on that Middle East issue at some point....? :D
24/10/2007, 8:30 PM
dortie

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Originally Posted by DmanDmythDledge

Are you coming out with this crap again? If Harps win the coin toss it wouldn't be wrong to have the game at Finn Park, regardless of which venue is better.

No odds to me where it is, we will beat them as usual, can someone come up with the statistics, dont think there is any derby in the world with the win stats we have over Harps, almost guinness book of records stuff if you ask me.
24/10/2007, 10:56 PM
fbtn

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Originally Posted by dortie

...... if you ask me.

THERE!

That is the important bit right there :D
24/10/2007, 11:30 PM
onephillyhughes

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Originally Posted by dortie

No odds to me where it is, we will beat them as usual, can someone come up with the statistics, dont think there is any derby in the world with the win stats we have over Harps, almost guinness book of records stuff if you ask me.

Someone do this, I wasn't aware of this :D
25/10/2007, 10:44 AM
cheifo

Our day will come......soon.:)
25/10/2007, 10:56 AM
Dodge

Proper derbies are more than 25 years old
25/10/2007, 11:38 AM
Sam_Heggy

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Originally Posted by Dodge

Proper derbies are more than 25 years old

ooooohhhhh touchy :D Our derby is more than 25 years, just not always in the LOI :cool:
TBH, we never liked them, so that counts.
25/10/2007, 11:38 AM
fbtn

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Originally Posted by Dodge

Proper derbies are more than 25 years old

Source?
25/10/2007, 5:09 PM
AidoP

Sure lets just play it in Croker. That way then there will be at least one decent soccer game that will have been played there this year :)
25/10/2007, 6:51 PM
dortie

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Originally Posted by Dodge

Proper derbies are more than 25 years old

Do Pats have one ? Would love to go to that:rolleyes:
25/10/2007, 11:22 PM
dcfcsteve

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Originally Posted by dortie

No odds to me where it is, we will beat them as usual, can someone come up with the statistics, dont think there is any derby in the world with the win stats we have over Harps, almost guinness book of records stuff if you ask me.

It's only one defeat in c. 43 or 44 competitive games. That's right - we've only lost to Harps once in 22 years - feck knows how they even managed that win - and we play them pretty much every year thanks to the League Cup. I doubt there is any other win statistic in the league for regular competitiors that comes close to that.

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Originally Posted by Dodge

Proper derbies are more than 25 years old

I'll be generous and accept your completely arbitrary and nonesensical view here Dodge, as we have only 3 more years to go before we get anointed by your good self. I'm looking forward to the year 2027 when Rovers are in Tallaght and you poor ignored souls can finally have a proper west/south-west Dublin derby for yourselves..... :p
26/10/2007, 1:37 AM
harpskid

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Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

It's only one defeat in c. 43 or 44 competitive games. That's right - we've only lost to Harps once in 22 years - feck knows how they even managed that win - and we play them pretty much every year thanks to the League Cup. I doubt there is any other win statistic in the league for regular competitiors that comes close to that.

While our record against Derry is abysmal, at least get the facts right Steve - 'one defeat in c. 43 or 44 competitive games.' even you should know that we've won more than one...
26/10/2007, 10:00 AM
dcfcsteve

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Originally Posted by harpskid

While our record against Derry is abysmal, at least get the facts right Steve - 'one defeat in c. 43 or 44 competitive games.' even you should know that we've won more than one...

How many is it then ?
26/10/2007, 10:01 AM
Mr A

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How many is it then ?

It's a run that has to end some time :)
26/10/2007, 10:05 AM
cheifo

If Harps get promoted the derbies give everyone something to look forward to next year.Good for the bank accounts of both clubs as well.
26/10/2007, 10:05 AM
dcfcsteve

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Originally Posted by Mr A

It's a run that has to end some time :)

Remind me of how big that run is though Mr A - and how many times it's been broken in competitive fixtures......?
26/10/2007, 10:07 AM
dcfcsteve

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Originally Posted by cheifo

If Harps get promoted the derbies give everyone something to look forward to next year.Good for the bank accounts of both clubs as well.

Definitely agree. Good for the league and for North-West football.

Plus, ribbing aside, Harps are my 2nd team, so I want to see yee's do well anyway.

:ball:
26/10/2007, 10:25 AM
Mr A

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Remind me of how big that run is though Mr A - and how many times it's been broken in competitive fixtures......?

Way too big, and not often enough :)
26/10/2007, 10:35 AM
AidoP

I know we definitely beat you in "The Irish News Cup". Do you remember that? Wat a quality competition that was :)
26/10/2007, 11:57 AM
dcfcsteve

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Originally Posted by AidoP

I know we definitely beat you in "The Irish News Cup". Do you remember that? Wat a quality competition that was :)

So that's the one I mentioned.

Any advances on that....? :) Harps Kid....?
26/10/2007, 11:58 AM
harpskid

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Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

How many is it then ?

You don't know? Yet you blabber away there about 'one win' when you well know its not correct...:rolleyes:
26/10/2007, 12:22 PM
Derry

Derry City have played Harps 55 times. Harps won 5 times, twice in the Irish News Cup. twice in the League cup and once in the League when they won 1-0 at home.
Pretty abysmal record for Harps.
26/10/2007, 1:03 PM
harps1954

I don't think you can count the annual friendly "Ulster Tyre Cup" as a competitive fixture. We've played competitive fixtures 48 times - the League, FAI Cup, League Cup and Irish News Cup.
27/10/2007, 2:24 PM
Derry

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Originally Posted by harps1954

I don't think you can count the annual friendly "Ulster Tyre Cup" as a competitive fixture. We've played competitive fixtures 48 times - the League, FAI Cup, League Cup and Irish News Cup.

You may very well want to have counted the Ulster Tyre Cupe games if you had won any of them.

But just take the three premier competitions

LC you played Derry City 15 times. WINS 0

FAI Cup you played Derry City 3 times. WINS 0

eL you played Derry City 24 times. WINS 1 at home.

No matter how you twist it, it's still a very abysmal record for Harps.
27/10/2007, 3:27 PM
fbtn

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Originally Posted by Derry

You may very well want to have counted the Ulster Tyre Cupe games if you had won any of them.

But just take the three premier competitions

LC you played Derry City 15 times. WINS 0

FAI Cup you played Derry City 3 times. WINS 0

eL you played Derry City 24 times. WINS 1 at home.

No matter how you twist it, it's still a very abysmal record for Harps.

Maybe I was hallucinating but I remember Nesovic scoring against you in the League Cup in Finn Park to beat you 1-0 and Sammy Johnston scoring a couple against you in the Brandywell to beat you in the same competition. I was at both games so unless it was October and I was off my chops on the magic mushies I stand to be corrected. :p
28/10/2007, 7:17 PM
Raheny Red

The graveyard should be kept as far away from TV screens as possible.
29/10/2007, 12:49 AM
dcfcsteve

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Originally Posted by Derry

You may very well want to have counted the Ulster Tyre Cupe games if you had won any of them.

But just take the three premier competitions

LC you played Derry City 15 times. WINS 0

FAI Cup you played Derry City 3 times. WINS 0

eL you played Derry City 24 times. WINS 1 at home.

No matter how you twist it, it's still a very abysmal record for Harps.

42 competitive games and only 1 win.

Apologies Harps fans - I unfairly quoted 43/44 games in a previous quote........ :o

LOLAH.... :D
29/10/2007, 9:16 AM
bellavistaman

Anybody think this could be slight advantage to Ramblers, bit of pressure being on tele. Could **** the course if ever like.
29/10/2007, 9:28 AM
Mr_T

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Originally Posted by Derry

You may very well want to have counted the Ulster Tyre Cupe games if you had won any of them.

But just take the three premier competitions

LC you played Derry City 15 times. WINS 0

FAI Cup you played Derry City 3 times. WINS 0

eL you played Derry City 24 times. WINS 1 at home.

No matter how you twist it, it's still a very abysmal record for Harps.

Except that you're totally wrong.

2 wins in the LC, including our first ever, with Sammy Johnston, still a legend, stick 2 past yisin the Brandywell.

No Harps fans will deny the record is brutal, but at least get your facts right.

Plus it will be all the sweeter when we knock yis outa the Setanta!! :D
29/10/2007, 11:10 AM
dcfcsteve

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Originally Posted by Mr_T

Plus it will be all the sweeter when we knock yis outa the Setanta!! :D

Just like you did at home in the cup.....? :confused:

There's always hope......! :D
29/10/2007, 12:33 PM
fbtn

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Originally Posted by dcfcsteve

42 competitive games and only 1 win.

Apologies Harps fans - I unfairly quoted 43/44 games in a previous quote........ :o

LOLAH.... :D

Mr Know it All. Wrong again. LOLAY.
29/10/2007, 12:36 PM
fbtn

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Originally Posted by bellavistaman

Anybody think this could be slight advantage to Ramblers, bit of pressure being on tele. Could **** the course if ever like.

This must be your last straw so keep clutching :D

You don't rate us yet we have went on the best run in the history of the First Division..........

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