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Surely something could passed the FAI's way Joe, the bad weather equalling poor turnouts? The negative Limerick City image put across by the Dublin media? There has to be something, it's the FAI for Christ's sake :DQuote:
Originally Posted by joeSoap
lads get your asses in gear and hget a trust going
We don't know what the story is with the club, how much is needed, what it's needed for, where any trust money will go, etc. Basically the first any of us heard about this was Wednesday night/Yesterday morning, and until we're given answers by the club then how can we get our asses in gear?Quote:
Originally Posted by geezer
Who was the development work contracted to in the Jacks? That is the question, isn't it?Quote:
Originally Posted by joeSoap
Eh, isn't Darren Hehir involved in the building trade??Quote:
Originally Posted by joeSoap
Would it really be that surprising to hear of the FAI going back on promises??Quote:
In fairness Jebus, I don't thinkthat there's any blame to be passed the way of the FAI on this.
And what, oh wise geezer would you have this trust do at this moment in time??Quote:
lads get your asses in gear and hget a trust going
Maybe you could come back when you've something useful to add....................
Fans of other clubs I suggest you ignore this. It's just our annual round of Limerick backbiting. There is an issue in the short term. The players are fully aware. It will be resolved in the long term. Lots of Junior folk with agendas will keep firing $hit off in all directions in the hope that some will stick. The attitudes of some people in this town disgust me at times. So much more pleasure is got from failure than success for these tiny, bitter people.
Foot.ie is no place for this garbage anyway but shur ye know that don't ye :rolleyes: :mad:
Sorry, that made me smile. No eLOI club has only annual rounds of backbiting, it's an Irish art-form!Quote:
It's just our annual round of Limerick backbiting.
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Originally Posted by Mr A
Nah, little backbiting is constant but if you want to look back through the annals of Limerick football history every year one item will be pounced upon for everyone to get a major hair up their collective ass about
As they say over on the general forum - FACT :)
to advise yee. A trust isnt much good when the crisis is upon you thats true but at most clubs their will be issues like this every few years and if a trust is available and has got on its feet you would be amazed how it could mushroom and be there to get things back in control by the fans for the fans.
it could not have been much of a business plan that was presented to the fai only some short months ago. it would make you wonder how thoroughly vetted the new bunch and their ideas were at the time.
Not the only thing that makes you wonder about our SuperDuper League, but I get your point
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Originally Posted by geezer
Didn't strike home as one of the best pieces of advice everQuote:
lads get your asses in gear and hget a trust going
Fairplay though, you could yet hear from us in future. The SC is actually really well organised so it's just another step.
Wouldn't worry too much (not that anyone in Galway is, I'd say :p). The problems are nowhere near as big as the assorted $hit-stirrers and liars on here will try to make outQuote:
it could not have been much of a business plan that was presented to the fai only some short months ago. it would make you wonder how thoroughly vetted the new bunch and their ideas were at the time
Did anyone contact the club officials to see what the problems are...no use bitching here when no one knows whats going on....
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Originally Posted by Rams-07
is a dream for GUFC fans. It was brill to see cues at the showgrounds in sligo a few weeks back for the Sligo GUFC game. Imagine Lims with a set up like Galway and Athlone have now and good crowds. Its good for everyone. Nobody in GUFC will take pleasure in Lims having issues we had them for long enough the Trust made a huge difference of course they werent the only ones, Nick Leeson and the board done most of the work but trojan workers in the supporters trust saved the day in the interim on many occasions with cheques at tight times and stewarding, game promotion sticking posters everywhere and standing in shopping centres flogging season tickets at christmas time far away from seasons start. Respect grew around the county and within the club and everything is good now bar a few home results but trouble is never far away. Fans love clubs, a lot of players, managers, coaches , come and go directors are mercenaries and go whereever the mula is. Fans are with the club forever. Trusts ensure fans have some realistic input. Listening to the FAI is folly, believing their promises you would want to be mad. Limerick people are your only hope
Yea the pool tables were a bit of a waste without them reallyQuote:
Originally Posted by geezer
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Originally Posted by 4tothefloor
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its flancare that will keep us afloatQuote:
Originally Posted by jebus
Can't be worth that much in fairnessQuote:
Originally Posted by Sonic
I mean it's in the middle of nowhere in a county that's in the middle of nowhere :confused:
major absence on this site lately of the once vociferous and opinionated 'old keeper' and his mini me 'young L37 fan'...who I note from the fantasy league shares the same surname as old keeper...:rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by PinBallWizard
Just thought that I would clarify one point mentioned on here about Kieran Judge earlier. I have been told that he is the Club Licensing officer and has been since the start of the season and the Club secretary is Michael O'Sullivan.
All the best
John
Shur if you're to be believed I'm sure he has far more important things to be doing than posting on an internet forumQuote:
Originally Posted by PinBallWizard
I mean, sure, he could come on with bull$hit rumours I suppose............ :rolleyes:
Yes, there are problems at the club.
There seem to be financial pressures and organisational pressures.
But whatever the situation, most fans are content to go along to the matches (or not!), maybe discuss/moan about the club in the pub or online, and that's it!
While I only expect a minority to have any serious interest in the actual running of the club, it is disappointing to see that the level of discussion here rarely gets above calling for certain people to be sacked and replaced by people who occupied certain positions in past incarnations of the club! If those who ran the club in the past were so great, how come we find ourselves where we are now?!!? There are very few actual concrete suggestions emanating from this forum!
I have nothing against people who were previously involved being involved in the current setup. Mistakes were made in the past, but valuable lessons can be learnt from those mistakes. As long as those people have learnt the right lessons from their experiences and are motivated for the right reasons, they can play a very useful role in the potential success of the current club.
While luck can sometimes help you get over organisational problems in the short term, eventually those problems will be exposed. The debacle over the table quiz is one small example of this. Should it emerge that there are bigger financial problems, that would be a more significant indication of underlying organisational problems.
I don't believe there is anyone involved in the club at the moment who isn't capable of doing a very good job. But no organisation can function as a small group of individuals. It must work as a cohesive unit with a clear plan and focus. It must also have enough people involved to spread the workload, with everyone properly motivated and pulling their weight. If those involved are carrying too heavy a workload the cumulative effect of such pressure/stress can over time lead to poor decision making.
While I am disappointed with the performance of certain people in the club, I think their shortcomings are more due to a lack of direction rather than them being incapable. To an extent, this is perfectly understandable given the conditions: a new club has been formed, with most of the people involved new to their respective roles.
I do think that a little more clear direction would begin to help this situation.
This is Ger Finnin's job. But in order to do so more effectively, I think he probably needs to be relieved of some of the duties he currently carries out.
The only thing that really disappoints me at the moment is the lack of say the supporters have in the running of the club. The openness that I had hoped for is not quite there. While there is a position on the board for a non-voting supporters' rep, from what I can gather, in practice the rest of the board seem to regard this as a discretionary position when it comes to holding meetings.
The surest way of building the club is through the current cohort of regular supporters. While positive media coverage can help build up a buzz around the club, most of this will go over people's heads unless it is accompanied by word of mouth from actual real life fans who have actually witnessed a real live match!
In my opinion, the direct involvement of supporters in the running of the club is the surest path to success.
Some examples:
Although the Supporters' Club has made some progress this year, it too has some way to go to get properly organised. But it's on the right path.
- It is the current fans who will recruit new fans to the cause of Limerick 37 on the pitch.
- A little market research among supporters would yield information that could inform a targetted advertising/sponsorship campaign.
Even if it doesn't own any shares, a well organised Supporters' Club can (and always should) wield great influence within the club.
After all, without the fans the club is an empty shell...
(Wow, that took so long, I see everyone else has now gone to bed... :eek: I think I'll follow suit!)
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Originally Posted by redron
Fair Play!! Well said :ball:
No longer able to post here.Quote:
Originally Posted by PinBallWizard
on all of foot.ie or just this thread??Quote:
Originally Posted by sadloserkid
On everything, hes gone over to that other eircom league forum i believe (forget the name) but hes the only Limerick fella on it so far:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Jofspring
He told me on the forum of our fantasy league thingy.
From this....
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Originally Posted by joeSoap
Either Danny is a very very good bargainer, or L37 got ripped off in their development work in the jacks
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Originally Posted by Lim till i die
to this.....
You bought shares, hooray for youQuote:
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Originally Posted by PinBallWizard
why so diplomatic Joe? Get off the fence.Either you want these guys in or out. I bought shares in this ****ing thing.
So what??Quote:
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Every single person I talk to at matches and in the pub later thinks finnin is a spoofer that would put roddy collins to shame,.
Name one instance of trouble this year?? Have you any idea how much outside security would cost?? I say fairplay to himQuote:
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And don't get me started on our 'head of security' that behaves like a back street doorman.
I reckon he bought slightly more shares than you.Quote:
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Why is he responsible for making decisions in the club?
And your way of getting an explanation is to spread scurrilous muck all over a website..........Quote:
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EAs a shareholder do I not have the right to an explanation as to what the hell is going on?
Why don't you just approach the "back street doorman" or the "spoofer" in person??
Sure do. In the Shed every single game, a real fan. Not the type to go in for spreading stuff on the internetQuote:
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Aah.....our head of security,does anyone remember him from last season,in the shed
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You certainly changed your tune....a bit two-faced no??
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Originally Posted by Jofspring
Hes banned from the whole site!!
jesus, how'd he manage to get a full on ban?Quote:
Originally Posted by L37Ultra
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Originally Posted by jebus
Not sure but id say a lot of people complained him!! :eek:
Where?!?! :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by PinBallWizard
From where you were questioning the role played by D.Hehir in the redevelopment of jackman one minute where you inferred he was responsible for over-pricing, and a short while later are praising him to the hilt.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lim till i die
As in.....
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Originally Posted by joeSoap
Either Danny is a very very good bargainer, or L37 got ripped off in their development work in the jacks
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Originally Posted by Lim till i die
Eh, isn't Darren Hehir involved in the building trade??
The point I was making (sigh) was that if Mr. Soap had an accusation to make he should just come out and make it rather than dealing in inuendo. See when you deal in inuendo you get people like your good self unable to grasp what you're on aboutQuote:
Originally Posted by PinBallWizard
Not sure I can make it any simpler for you :rolleyes:
Mr.Soap wasn't making any accusations through innuendo. Mr Soap was merely stating that either Danny Drew was very very frugal in his construction dealings or that perhaps L37 were over charged for the work they did.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lim till i die
See when you read innuendo into everything, good people like yourself become slightly paranoid...;)
The only reason I'm paranoid is because they're all after me :)Quote:
Originally Posted by joeSoap