Would like to see them all progress especially as it could have an impact on their league form. Don't realistically think we can catch Drogs and I have them backed for the league so if any were to fail I'd prefer it to be Drogs.
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Would like to see them all progress especially as it could have an impact on their league form. Don't realistically think we can catch Drogs and I have them backed for the league so if any were to fail I'd prefer it to be Drogs.
I like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
I don't think where you're from effects it.
Its not true, look at the poll results (and who voted)Quote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
ok well the ones being more vocal dodge over the last few threads are definately dublin clubs fans in the majority.
how do you check who ( member ) voted for what though?
Click on the numbers. I'll grant you the point about the more vocal fans though
Derry are my favourite club outside Dundalk so hope they go through. Don't really care about Pats, but I hope Drogheda get hammered :D
Hope Derry and Drogheda progress. Hope Pat's fail.
Hope all of the clubs do well although it will be really difficult for Pat's against Odense and the Derry matches are a bit of an trip into the unknown but I would like to think they are better than the Armenians. The eircom League teams have improved dramatically in Europe recently but it would be terrible to let all that hard work go to waste with another bad showing we were all accustomed to a few years back. C'mon lads do the League proud - onwards and upwards - you can do it!
Vocally support all opposition teams in Europe = more respect for the league and the banishment our our small minded ways. Gotcha Superfrank
I never said that we should go out and support the teams el clubs play against. My point is that I don't think we should support other el clubs that play in Europe.Quote:
Originally Posted by Soko
Pats to go tru dont care about the others, more sure that we will win next monday than i am of us not getting hammered on thursday :)
kdjac
I hope all 3 progress...
We should look to those bigots for an example now? :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by superfrank
If we want to move on from being a small league, we have to have teams regularly doing well in Europe.Quote:
If we want to move on from being a small minded league, this kind of supporting whoever's doing the best in Europe oughta be gotten rid of.
I support Galway Utd but live in Gothenburg so when Derry City came to play IFK Göteborg last year, I could have done what Superfrank would have done and stayed at home but I didn't. I went to the Ullevi with the rest of the Derry fans and cheered them on and celebrated whén they scored. They were representing the country in Europe. The team and the fans both were excellent. The fans were praised by the police and and opposing fans for their behaviour and general antics.
I can see where you are coming from Superfrank with your stance on rivalries etc but we are not English, Spanish, Italian etc. The EL isn't a big league in European standards. Irish football fans really should get behind their clubs because even though they are representing their clubs, town, cities etc, they are also representing Ireland and at the end of the day winning in Europe is good for the league and football in this country.
So fans of other eL clubs aren't going to take me seriously if I support Pat's against Odense? This poll says otherwise. In fact, I'm not taking you very seriously at the moment.Quote:
Originally Posted by superfrank
Have you no better argument than that?
Ever been beaten 10-0 on agg in Europe?Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
If Yes please explain why i should support any other team in Europe?
If No please explain why i should support any other team in Europe?
As i said last season i kinda hoped some derry players would get knocks ruling them out of the next game vs pats, how can a Rovers fan honestly cheer for pats on thursday then want us to get beat 4 days later? Its not right.
kdjac
No, we've never lost 10-0 in Europe.
I've also never seen a purple swallow. I mention that only because it appears about as relevant.
The games are not related. I am actively hoping Drogheda win their second round clash as well to add 6 games to their fixture list. Likewise for Pats, Derry really don't matter but its not going break my heart to see them do well.
This begrudgery is just aping those animals across the water once again. How terrible it would be to form our identity and hope our clubs bring the league some good publicity
What a ridiculous poll. of course any self respecting eL fan would want all three to progress. ffs if it was rovers in europe i'd want them to progress too
So never seen the rovers display of 10-0 to the refugees at our next game vs them, oh i honestly cant wait to support them Europe next season :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
kdjac
But I'd say a lot of those same fans still wanted you to win that game before it started , the 10-0 to the Refugees thing just a bit of banter no harm in it :)
I've no idea what you're referring to
Exactly.Quote:
Originally Posted by gustavo
Can't go getting in a huff every time opposition fans slag you.
First all there are very few rivalries in this league so your point has no merit. Fair enough if it's Bohs wanting Rovers to lose or Harps wanting Derry to lose but what's the harm in UCD wanting Pat's to win?Quote:
Originally Posted by superfrank
Teams in other countries can afford for their fellow teams to do poor as it won't affect them. If eL clubs do poorly in Europe it has an adverse effect on teams that qualify in the succeeding years.
Nowt to do with getting in a huff, its simply not supporting your rivals as you hate them.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
kdjac
Few minutes ago it was not supporting them because they held up a banner?
When (if) we have the luxury of teams regularly doing very well in Europe then we can afford to carry domestic rivalries into these games. Until then, any good result for any team is a good result for the league. Not saying it would break my heart if Derry or Drogs lost, but I'd prefer them to win. (Mind you, there's always an exception isn't there - I could never bring myself to "support" Shels :p)
Really? I'm so upset.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Clearly lot's of people don't agree with me. That's fine by me. I've made my argument a few times now. There's no need for me to repeat myself.
You haven't made any argument; that's my point. You've spouted clichés without actually showing how they relate to the issue at hand.Quote:
Originally Posted by superfrank
Sorry, argument is too strong a word. Opinion, that suit you?Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
without getting stuck in this argument.....whats the predictions on saturday nights match against us?? or do i dare ask?:)
OK. And I've shown that opinion to be groundless.Quote:
Originally Posted by superfrank
You can think that if you want. I'd never rob anyone of their right to an opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
In what way? You can't make anyone's opinion "groundless", an opinion is someone's own decision. You can't prove it wrong just cos you don't agree with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Only the UCD game is in doubt atm, The Harps game is only in doubt if we beat both Pyunik and Shaktar.Quote:
Originally Posted by Galway Harps
Hope all progress.
Right so. In that case I wouldn't mind Derry making it through this round. Still, at 5-1 Pyunik are tempting........Quote:
Originally Posted by Dazzy
Hope all 3 progress.
Yes. I don't agree with SuperFrank AT ALL, but he is entitled to his opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by sligoman
Rivalry makes for a better atmosphere at a match but it must be kept in check i.e. no violence ( SuperFrank did use the word hate previously -as if we should aspire to this??? ).
Our league isn't strong enough ( as has already been said ) that we can afford to have our clubs knocked out in the first round.
We need to convert the barstoolers to follow Irish, not English clubs and one of the key issues is respect. One of the best way to get this is for our clubs to perform well in Europe ( both for the results / prestige and for the much needed money ).
Is this just a case of Bray desperately needing a rival to boost the atmosphere? How about UCD for a rival? or maybe Greystones or Wicklow Town will put a team into the league? There's certainly a good rivalry between the older Dublin clubs and also between Cork and Waterford, Derry and Finn Harps, Drogheda and Dundalk. Cork City are always looking to stuff the Dubs too!
Best of luck to Derry, Pats and Drogheda.
Shelsman, as a follower of th club with probably the best recent Eurpean record, and certainly the highest european profile recently, do you think your european exploits have a) helped Shels and b) helped the league's attendances grow?
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Originally Posted by Block G Raptor
Well said, why on earth would anyone on here want any of the 3 to fail (and the northern clubs too for that matter)