swano's right; stay on topic lads
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swano's right; stay on topic lads
Well, speaking of the origiinal topic, I would love to see such a game happen, but its simply a non runner. No way the "National" team would lower themselves to take on a mere LOI select. Not to mention the potential for embarressment should they fail to thump them by 5 or 6.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
seamie colemans in with a shout of that right back slot
Just going back to the keeper thing, I'm not arguing for a moment that Barry Murphy is anything less than excellent. But as Liam Brady would say, "He plays a different role, John."
Cos our attack is so prolific, we can afford to give away silly consolation goals to the likes of Longford, Waterford, Sligo and Rovers. However, cos of Rovers' relatively goal-shy strikers, if a team scores against them, they win (providing, as DvB has helpfully pointed out, the Tolka floodlights don't keel over). Knock off the silly consolations and the two Barrys have conceded exactly the same amount of points-costing goals.
Our Barry is light years ahead in terms of entertainment value though, both to us and to opposition fans.
And if all that isn't preposterous-yet-watertight enough for anyone, I haven't even begun about how our 3-5-2 gives us a better points-costing goals per defender ratio than anyone else...
Sligo Rovers players that definatly make the 16
Seamie Coleman (should start at right full, best in the league id say at the mo)
Chris Turner (different class, NI U-21 International, gets in the 11)
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Faz (Maybe gets 16 because of his mad name and everyone fears him apparantly..hes well known etc.. He can play abit i suppose)
Gavin Peers (maybe)
Could this message be communicated to the manager?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr.Nightdub
I didn't about hear that.Quote:
Originally Posted by swano
Our loss really as I thnk he is a fine player.
I met Ger a few times in his previous occupation - he's a St Pats man through and through.
Now Devine has got a bit shakey i dont think Ryan can be touched. Great Keeper.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr.Nightdub
Hilarious rationale there Doc. Two words for you that aren't open to interpretation - clean sheets. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr.Nightdub
KOH
takes more than clean sheets to judge a keeper :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by WeAreRovers
Ah lads are you saying Owen Heary can't judge a keeper? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
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Originally Posted by Vitruvian Man
He is indeed
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Originally Posted by Dodge
And more than goals to judge a striker?
KOH
absolutely.
FOr what its worth I think all 3 are fine keepers
The point being that if a striker scores loads of goals then it doesn't matter a damn about his general play. Same with keepers and clean sheets, which are way more important that the waffle in Doc's post. Not that Barry Murphy's general play isn't brilliant too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
Barry Ryan will always be Blunders to me while Barry Murphy is the best keeper I've ever seen at Rovers - all the way back to Alan O'Neill. But that subjectivity is what makes us fans I suppose.
KOH
But of you're going on stats, do you use goals against or clean sheets. Bohs have fewest goals condeded but there fans were going mad a few weeks ago at being so negative. Pats have a good defensive record and we're much better going forward. I think we should use the Ice Hockey way of rating goalies; most wins :D Subjectivity me arse...
Anyway, to get back to the original point, I think the LOI team should play an FAi B team every year. Far better use of Devlin's wages
You try working a 14-hour day then not posting absolute tosh online when you get home. Thanks for dignifying it with a serious argument though. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by WeAreRovers
He's Digger O Briens nephew and was due to sign for you before his health problems. They weren't sure if he'd play again so I presume bohs had given up on him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vitruvian Man
I couldn't care less who he used to support if he keeps playing the way he is for us for the past 2 seasons.
Doc, letting in late goals.... lack of concentration..... Drug test him now!
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Originally Posted by swano
Still does ;)
The defence plays a more important role than the keeper IMO. If the defence fúcks up sometimes there's nothing any keeper in the world can do, which makes using clean sheets stupid.Quote:
Originally Posted by WeAreRovers
No worries Doc, anytime. I assumed it was drug-induced waffle rather than overwork. Personally I just post tosh all the time, it's easier that way.;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr.Nightdub
KOH
From the 4 games ive seen Rovers play this season their is not one player from Rovers who come near the squad, bar Murphy in nets that is. The rest of the squad is average, wins have come from trying to destroy games and from their fitness levels, not from skill or real class. But as mentioned, Murphy would be my choice for Keeper, outstanding talent.Quote:
Originally Posted by swano
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Originally Posted by swano
Ah ye nice fella him.He used to come in to the bank I worked in with his Kildare County checks and we would have a good old chat about LOI.Must be from Clondalkin and hence the Pats supporter link.
Its a pity cos I wouldnt spit on him now he's a horrible hoop!!!
Don't agree, when they came to us they at least tried playing football i.e. on the ground. Haven't quite got the players to pull it off but at least Scully has them going about it the right way. Only ones to seriously rattle our 3-5-2 up to then, Dodge'll remember pointing out at the time how they were doing so.Quote:
Originally Posted by BrayUnknowns
Maybe a wee bit too cavalier though - leaving three up for a corner and no-one on the post when you're 1-0 down against Set Piece Athletic means you'll soon find yourself 2-0 down. :)
I dont think Mooney will be moving on.
Baz is head and shoulders above any keeper in either divisons, how many other keepers will keep clean sheets at Cork, and twice at Drogs this season?Quote:
Originally Posted by BrayUnknowns
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Originally Posted by mypost
What about the defence?? Clean sheets mean nothing if the keeper didn't have to make any proper saves in any of these games because the defence made sure he didn't have to. Just because he got a clean sheet it doesn't mean he actually had anything to do in these games
Brian Murphy, twice against Pats; against the Drogs; at the Brandywell. Conceded the same number of goals as your Murphy but with one extra game played. Arguably has a bigger task with Jason McGuinness playing in front of him.Quote:
Originally Posted by mypost
Apart from the two games v Bray (which would be far from our best performances this season btw but still took the 6 point thany you very much) I'm intrigued to know what the other game was (assuming the third was the Derry game live on TV?), having seen every game this season even taking off the Rovers tinted glasses to just dismiss the quality Ger O'Brien, Baz, Rowe & Purcell have shown this season and put our results this season down to 'destroying' games is baffling!!Quote:
Originally Posted by BrayUnknowns
Against the top sides we've played decent on the deck football & this has started to get results, against the lower sides we've been dragged down to a different level (a frustrating weakness of ours i must admit) the performances vs Sligo, Bray & Longford sping to mind, though to our credit we have on each occasion managed to still pick up the points!! Defending btw is a skill, and can be a classy one at that!!
The defending i refer to is the limiting of chances to the opposition despite them having more of the ball, it doesnt include stamping on a players foot & breaking a bone btw!!
Koh
Not answering the question. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by BohsPartisan
We have gone to Cork, and Drogheda away twice this year, and kept clean sheets every time. How many other keepers have/will do that? He kept 23 clean sheets last season, saved all 4 penos he faced, and conceded 13 goals in 36 games. And unlike others, our keeper is part-time.
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Originally Posted by mypost
In Div 1
In fairness you can't really count a clean sheet against a team of Drogs kids in a league cup game.Quote:
Originally Posted by mypost
My Post - Baz is full time.
Hibs4Ever - A penalty should be converted at any level but he saved one against the gypos in the cup too.
Baz, Tadhg, Ger O'Brien, Detser and Aidan Price have all made the step up with amazing ease and while the continued under-rating of Rovers is a wee bit annoying long may it continue.
KOH
Well you were playing the Drogs under 17's on one of those occasions in Drogheda so that hardly counts. BTW I'm not under-rating anyone but the suggestion that Barry Murphy is head and shoulders above any keeper in this league is ludicrous in the extreme.Quote:
Originally Posted by mypost
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Originally Posted by WeAreRovers
:rolleyes:
Under-rated??? People are fawning all over your manager and team, can't understand where the "under-rated" tag comes from. Obviously you prefer being under-rated, but at the moment, you aren't. It's quite the opposite at the moment, and going into the second set of games, you have to live with it. Giving Rovers 3 points for the Waterford game and they're a top 3 team. I can't see anyone treating them as anything other than that. Who exactly is "under-rating" Rovers?
Listening to the interviews after the last round of games with Connor, Doolin and Jonny Mac, none of them mentioned Rovers but they all made reference to all the other top sides dropping points.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jaime
Some of them don't even consider Pats contenders and we're top so I wouldn't let manager speak worry you. Player for player I'm not sure I'd take any Rovers player ahead of any pats players (and yeah I know I'm 100% biased) so its not that hard to see why none were picked in the various eL selections. I'm fairly certain you have a miles better manager though
Exactly. Rovers didn't drop points. They got the job done against Bray, no surprises there. :confused: Rovers were the big winners of the last round of fixtures and are joint-third (outright third once they fail to lose to Waterford) on merit; do you want each manager to give a round-up of each team's performance every week in their 90 second interview slot? :confused:
For all we know those penalties could have been woeful and easy to save.Quote:
Originally Posted by WeAreRovers
I'd certainly take Purcell. Mind you I'd also take Gary O Neill. We badly need a propper partner for Crowe.