either way, kenny would not be first choice at Villa, Everton or Wigan. It's debatable if moving from first choice at the Blades to backup at any of these clubs is good for him. Or the Irish setup.
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either way, kenny would not be first choice at Villa, Everton or Wigan. It's debatable if moving from first choice at the Blades to backup at any of these clubs is good for him. Or the Irish setup.
Banned for 9 months due to failing a drug test, testing positive for ephedrine which he was taking for chest pains. The FA Panel accept that it wasnt performance enhancing but it looks like they want to make an example of the guy.
Its a shame for the guy who is a decent keeper and except for the Cyprus debacle, where he was a bit of a scapegoat, he could and probably would be Shays backup.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/foot...td/8242926.stm
How often do we hear of players/athletes who are found guilty of taking banned substances through over the counter drugs, i think Romario even said there was a banned substance in his system from hair growth drugs he was taking.Quote:
Originally Posted by Uncle_Joe
These people have huge medical teams looking after them, if they need something for a cold or chest complaint they should go to them. Anyone who takes over the counter drugs without consulting with the medical team at their clubs and are subsequently found with banned substances in their system deserve to be banned.
toally agree. theses guys should see that it has happened to enough athletes already.All clubs have their own doctor so all he had to do if pick up the phone to ask what he was allowed to use.Quote:
Originally Posted by weldoninhio
appeal dismissed. In light of Cannavaro's "excuse" being accepted and the story being swept under the carpet, this would seem pretty harsh...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/foot...td/8316916.stm
Sheffield United goalkeeper Paddy Kenny's appeal against a nine-month ban for failing a drugs test has been dismissed by the Football Association.
The 31-year-old challenged the severity of the suspension, but has failed to have it reduced.
An FA statement said: "The decision to impose a nine-month suspension was an appropriate measure."
Kenny tested positive for the banned substance ephedrine after last season's Championship play-off tie with Preston.
The suspension dates back to 22 July, meaning that Kenny can return to action in April 2010.
In addition to the ban, the Republic of Ireland international will the subject of target testing for a period of two years.
Kenny has made nearly 300 appearances for the Blades since moving to Bramall Lane from Bury in 2002.
Cannavaro's case was incomplete paperwork. It's not comparable.
how convenient.Quote:
Originally Posted by John83
Unfortunately for Paddy Kenny, he is not an English international. The refusal to consider his appeal is preposterous.
The partially complete paperwork (failed to respond to a request for additional paperwork) and news articles from the time indicate that the sting happened. If you want to speculate that they were smart enough to release a false story to the press and start disingenuously filling out paperwork to cover for having given him steroids, explain why they then ****ed up the subsequent paperwork.Quote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
Kenny, on the other hand, failed the test and then came up with the tired old story of an inhaler. The cases aren't comparable just because you want to feel outrage that the more famous player got preferential treatment.
Would it be a tired old story if the inhaler was the cause of him failing the drugs test?Quote:
Originally Posted by John83
If your found guilty of something but your resulting explanation proves your not a cheat then your going to use it.
As a professional athlete, Kenny would have been expected to not use something which could cause him to fail a drugs test. There are exceptions, as in the use of, say, steroids in the treatment of a severe allergic reaction to an insect sting (that being a potentially lethal situation), and in all of these exceptions, there is paperwork to be filled out.Quote:
Originally Posted by shakermaker1982
Every failed test is accompanied with a sob story of how it was an inhaler and how surely that's reasonable. Alessandro Petacchi, Alain Baxter, I've heard this story too many times to believe it. Yes, it could have caused the failed test, and if it did, Kenny's an idiot for taking it. It doesn't get him off.
Kenny might have been just ignorant but not an idiot.
He would be an idiot if went against clear club guidelines on self medicating.
The club doctor should have been his first port of call.
I'd have a suspicion that Kenny's club were slack with informing their players properly about the over the counter risk factors..
Im not a professional athlete but I know that if I was I wouldnt be able to take any medication without consulting someone to see if it was ok... its not rocket science so I dont go along with any excuse that his club might have been slack in informing him.Quote:
Originally Posted by geysir
He is not a kid who has just broken into the game, he has been pro for long enough that Im sure he would have been tested at other times during his career and would know of team mates getting tested on a regular basis.
I suspect the club were lackadaisical. Some of the comments made by people connected to the club around their shock horror about the 9 months ban, suggest to me that they had not got a clue of the consequences about innocently taking over the counter medication containing banned substances, unsupervised by their medical staff.
He is guilty, legally and morally. He was lucky to get away with only 9 months.Quote:
Commission chairman, Christopher Quinlan, said: "Whilst we found that the player satisfied us on the balance of probabilities that the substance was not taken with the intention of enhancing sporting performance, his admitted conduct displayed significant fault.
"A professional sportsman has a strict responsibility to ensure prohibited substances do not enter his/her body.
"In this instance Mr Kenny knowingly ingested an over-the-counter medicine above the prescribed dosage without reading the accompanying package or leaflet and without reference to his club's doctor or other medical staff.
"It is incumbent upon all professional footballers to understand the perils and dangers of so doing and to act in the way he did showed in our judgment a complete disregard for those responsibilities."
There is no doubt about his guilt.
Did he ignore clear club guidelines? which imo would define the amount of stupidity involved and increase the culpability.
The doubtful excuse, act of ignorance - bought over the counter, could do with being taken out of the equation. Players should be read the rules and the riot act by the club, made sign a paper that they understand their responsibilities in this area and to consult with the club doctor in all matters.
Geysir I still think you are putting too much responsibilty on the club.Yes they do have a responsibility to give the players the full and proper information but I still maintain that Kenny is around the game long enough now to know that professional athletes cant just take whatever medication they want without running the risk of failing a drug test. All he had to do is look at what happened to other athletes from all different sports over the years and see that in a lot of cases the excuse of over the counter medication was used.If we outside of professional sport can see this he has absolutely no excuse in my opinion
It was found by the adjudicators that he had a believable enough excuse, that's why he was only given 9 months.
Imo, if he did receive clear guidelines from the club, then he should get the 2 years.
Paddy Kenny came out of International retirement today.
http://www.breakingnews.ie/sport/ken...nt-455705.html
Wrongly scapegoated for the Cyprus debacle. He wasnt without sin but he was far from entirely to blame. Certainly worth a squad place but never convinced by him, prone to error and a long way short of Givens class.
People wrongly forget the great save he made (to bail Finnan out) very early on and the great save he made, tipping a shot onto the bar I think, just before half time. He was at fault for their second I think, getting beaten to a cross by their centre-forward, but other than that I thought he was OK. Finnan had a shocker and Andy O'Brien was pretty poor too.
There was one game before that Cyprus game where I got worried about him,it might have been the Dutch game that we lost 4 nil, but I remember thinking that his communication skills with the defence was ridiculously bad and I think that was alot of the problem in the Cyprus game too. Not saying he should be the only scapegoat for it but Im not gonna be screaming for his return to the squad any time soon
Paddy Kenny is a good keeper, a keeper needs a consistant run of games to build his confidence up and build a rapport with his back four.
He has always been a good keeper but I think Westwood will be a lot better than him, if he isn't already.
He is already I reckon, by quite a bit. Good enough to hold his own in the Premiership I reckon.
He's not going to be playing in the Premiership anytime soon if he stays with Coventry. Maybe he is just being polite but it looks like he wants to extend his contract.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
http://www.oleole.com/news/frame/746...Sky_Blues_stay
Surely coming close to a call up based on current form? Defo playing better than Joe Murphy at the moment and should be at least threatening Westwood
Been thinking the exact same thing myself. Trap doesn't like change though so I doubt Kenny will ever get a go.Quote:
Originally Posted by rebelmusic
He's worth a look but I think Trap might frown on his chequered personal history. Darren Randolph at Motherwell must be in contention by now too.
Glad to hear he's playing well after his troubles. But tbh, I reckon any future paragraph dedicated to this guy's international career will feature the word 'Nicosia', the number '5' and not a lot else.
Based on his performances he's probably just as good as Westwood, but he's the sort of guy you wouldn't want as your No. 3 goalkeeper, because I could see him stomping out if Westwood was selected ahead of him.
If Westwood or Given was injured I'd have him in as a backup but both Murphys seem like they are better personalities around the place as a third guy.
Aye that's a very good point. In fact, knowing his personality, we're probably better off not calling him up until it's a case of him being 2nd or 1st choice to keep the door open. He's bound to us anyway from the Nicosia game so now worries about him running offQuote:
Originally Posted by irishfan86
Conceding only 2 goals in 7 league games is some going though.
It sure is, but I don't think at his age he'll be included in an Ireland squad again. Randolph may have a chance though.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisRed
Sure some people want Hart dropped for conceding a whole 2 goals in 7.Quote:
Originally Posted by ChrisRed
Agree with IrishFan - it's fair to say the order is Given, Westwood and AN Other (at the moment J Murphy) - and I don't think Kenny would be a good third choice, need someone who's a good traveller and personality. The two Murphy, Randolph and maybe even David Forde would be better choices in that situation. If we had a dire injury problem though he'd be worth a look.
Named in the first FIFA 11 Ultimate Team of the week by EA:
http://www.ea.com/uk/football/news/f...-of-the-week-2
I believe that he is playing well for QPR and Warnock seems to have great time for him.
This article claims he is set for a recall, which I find hard to believe given who the manager is.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/foo...nd-recall.html
Nice bit of 2+2=5 from the Daily Mail there...