Jackman Park Development

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Originally Posted by JoeyFantastic

First of all, fair play for opening the shop but secondly, surely there's cheaper ways to stock a shop than to run down to Spar to buy what you intend to sell? I'm not knocking you, but surely it could save both you and the fans some money?

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Im mortified for you!

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Originally Posted by Old keeper

I think the point being made is that the cost of the items in the shop on average were the same as in other shops bar a few cent. There are usually frebies as well. We do have a policy of fairness in the shop and try to give value for money.

Lastly, do you really think we buy the stock for the shop in another shop!!!!

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No but someone else thought it was bought in Spar!!!

Some right whoppers on here :D

Yeah, sorry for not giving the important topic of bags of tayto's my full attention, oh well.

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Originally Posted by JoeyFantastic

Yeah, sorry for not giving the important topic of bags of tayto's my full attention, oh well.

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stop advertising brands. we were taking about crisps.

maybe you should give stuff you full attention before posting?
seems what most people do.

Might ruin my style though.

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Originally Posted by the hoops

lads at the mjc cup game yesterday thought it was a disgrace charging the kids 1euro for crisps shop is very dear and the toilets are a joke you wudnt let a dog go in them.plus for safety ye should put the signs back futher to the wall and the new lights put some padding around them the players will get hurt if they hit them

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The fact that we are worrying about important matters such as the price of a bag of crisps it really does show the progress we have made! We no longer have to worry about small things like what is going on, on the pitch :D :p

And ver little comment about winning away from home and in the last 16??
I have to admit Wexford are not great but are getting better and the Blues tried to play a bit ,mind you ,you couldnt but try on the billiard table pitch.

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Originally Posted by shelbourne1904

And ver little comment about winning away from home and in the last 16??
I have to admit Wexford are not great but are getting better and the Blues tried to play a bit ,mind you ,you couldnt but try on the billiard table pitch.

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If you go into the other threads there is a lot of talk about winning away from home against wexford!!

is there goin to be any work done behind the dug outs like there is behind the goals the high grass looks terrible?plus decent toilets would not go a miss good work done so far already ps is the ldmc stopping work being done

hi dazzler

hand towels and moisturising creams are being installed in the toilets today and shall remain there for the remainder of the season. gael will also be refreshing the pot pourri on a regular basis.

thanks for you interest.:D

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Originally Posted by the dazzler

is there goin to be any work done behind the dug outs like there is behind the goals the high grass looks terrible?plus decent toilets would not go a miss good work done so far already ps is the ldmc stopping work being done

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Short answer is yes but the weather (you might have noticed it) has delayed planned work in this area. Toilet facilities are being upgraded on both sides of the ground at the same time

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Originally Posted by Old keeper

Toilet facilities are being upgraded on both sides of the ground at the same time

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So we no longer have to use the grass on the other side of the pitch as a toilet :D

Any more news on this?

http://www2.limerickpost.ie/fullnews...&category=news This appeared in The Post this week. Fantastic if it is to be believed, but I've heard it all before......hopefully there's truth in it though

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Originally Posted by 4tothefloor

http://www2.limerickpost.ie/fullnews...&category=news This appeared in The Post this week. Fantastic if it is to be believed, but I've heard it all before......hopefully there's truth in it though

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Hope it's true this would be great!

Although never set foot in Jackman or Market's I've checked both areas out. Great for Limerick football if they got back to playing there. Good location too.

KOH

Can someone clarify exactly why The Markets Field becoming qavailable is good for L37.Besides being the original home of Limerick football.
As far as I know :
There are no dressing rooms,while not unsurmountable still a cost.
The pitch would have to be re laid?
It is further from the centre of town
Further from the train station
Has limited space at some sides
Is in the middle of a housing estate
It would have the be leased and might have no long term future if the site might be deemed too valuable in the future?
If I am wrong about this what are the advantages???

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Originally Posted by shelbourne1904

Can someone clarify exactly why The Markets Field becoming qavailable is good for L37.Besides being the original home of Limerick football.
As far as I know :
1. There are no dressing rooms,while not unsurmountable still a cost.
2. The pitch would have to be re laid?
3. It is further from the centre of town
4. Further from the train station
5. Has limited space at some sides
6. Is in the middle of a housing estate
7. It would have the be leased and might have no long term future if the site might be deemed too valuable in the future?
If I am wrong about this what are the advantages???

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Just to reply to you there:
1. If it's being leased to the FAI I'm sure they'd build a stadium there. The FAI would then lease it to us.
2. See no. 1
3. It's about an extra 5/10 mins walk. No big deal really
4. So what? The train station is still very near it.
5. And Jackman is better is it?
6. And Jackman isn't?
7. If you read the article, it is zoned for recreational and sporting use. Previous rezoning attempts have been blocked as will all future attempts. So the value of the property is a lot less than what you would expect. The majority of it cannot be used for commercial/residential development, so it's not that valuable with that in mind. It looks like any developer who wants to develop on it, cos there's also the telecoms building, will basically have to build a stadium as part of any deal.

Would be great I think. All years away though development wise...

All good points.
Just hoped it wasnt another of these "football in Limerick wont thrive unless its in the Markets Field".Normally put foweard by people who have not been at a match since Limerick last won the league and invariably suffer from poor memory of the times the Markets Field was empty for games.

I'd rather stay and have concrete plans for developing Jackman than spend another few years ****ing after the Market's Field lads, its gotten nowhere in the past, and probably won't in the near future

While im all in favour of going back to the Markets field as it has a larger development potential then the Jacks, i dont think it could be a success unless all strands of football go there. This would mean the LDMC selling off jackman (and making a fair penny for themselves) schoolboy, ladies and junior leagues comming to The markets field, but the move is at least 4/5 years away so ongoing development work at jackman park can continue till then. Btw remember the FAI in getting rid of the DD bid for rathbane did make a promise to develop rathbane as a regional center of football so with this center and markets field with all eliments of football on board i see it as being stronger then any combination with the jacks on board.

Markets field has huge potential IMO providing they get the building on Mulgrave st as part of the deal, this could prove expensive. The ground hs limited scope for development...if u leave the dog track there. remove the dog track and you could build a 25/30,000 seater no problem. The markets field is twice the size of jackman... its along way off though and i hope all strands of football stick together in the interm

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Originally Posted by gael353

Markets field has huge potential IMO providing they get the building on Mulgrave st as part of the deal, this could prove expensive. The ground hs limited scope for development...if u leave the dog track there. remove the dog track and you could build a 25/30,000 seater no problem. The markets field is twice the size of jackman... its along way off though and i hope all strands of football stick together in the interm

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The money is in Limerick to build a quality communal stadium. Some of those 25,000/30,000 seater Dutch stadiums are class and they cost relative peanuts to build. You'd need major investors and a number of sporting bodies on board to do it, but it's possible. Limerick 37 would be the obvious candidates for anchor tenants. But as you said, its years away. Doesn't mean we can't develop Jackman to a decent standard in the meantime....

Is this the same run down markets field that cant hold greyhound meetings without patrons having there cars robbed and smashed up? didnt the fire brigade get attacked after an owners van was set on fire there a few weeks back? People were very quick to critacise Hogan park for simular things last year. Just wondering why the FAI would invest a fortune into the place?

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Originally Posted by 4tothefloor

Just to reply to you there:
1. If it's being leased to the FAI I'm sure they'd build a stadium there. The FAI would then lease it to us.
2. See no. 1
3. It's about an extra 5/10 mins walk. No big deal really
4. So what? The train station is still very near it.
5. And Jackman is better is it?
6. And Jackman isn't?
7. If you read the article, it is zoned for recreational and sporting use. Previous rezoning attempts have been blocked as will all future attempts. So the value of the property is a lot less than what you would expect. The majority of it cannot be used for commercial/residential development, so it's not that valuable with that in mind. It looks like any developer who wants to develop on it, cos there's also the telecoms building, will basically have to build a stadium as part of any deal.

Would be great I think. All years away though development wise...

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But all your points really just say that it is no better or worse than the Jacks. So why move?

Exactely. The last thing we need now is another F**king move :mad:

If we develop Jackman it will be a grand home for us IMHO

John

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Originally Posted by JohnD

Exactely. The last thing we need now is another F**king move :mad:

If we develop Jackman it will be a grand home for us IMHO

John

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I think you'll find it's the home of junior soccer in Limerick.

And your point is ???:confused:

Smallmindedness John...it's part of the inferiority complex some junior soccer supporters suffer from. Not all, just some.

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Originally Posted by joeSoap

Smallmindedness John...it's part of the inferiority complex some junior soccer supporters suffer from. Not all, just some.

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It's just my opinion but I get the impression that the new LDMC committee are not as openly minded to senior soccer in Jackman Park as the previous committee that gave the go ahead.
Is smallmindedness the new phrase that is used instead of "FACT". Limerick37 are only tenants in Jackman Park.

Nobody ever denied L37 were only tenants at Jackman Park. But what about the whole ethos of trying to broaden the horizons of the game across the entire city and county?

Smallmindedness is when people like you make petty remarks about the fact that the club are only tenants in Jackman. Get a grip.

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Originally Posted by Mercurial Vapor

I think you'll find it's the home of junior soccer in Limerick.

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:rolleyes: a big old yawn goes out for your efforts champ ;)

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Originally Posted by LFC in Exile

But all your points really just say that it is no better or worse than the Jacks. So why move?

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I wouldn't mind seeing us staying in Jackman Park, and I never said Limerick 37 would be buying the Markets Field. If it'll happen it'll be a stadium/facility built either by the FAI or another group of bodies/investors. It would have nothing to do with Limerick 37 until they would be invited to play there. So if it reached that stage, why not move? It would be years away anyway.

It's only a matter of time too before something kicks off with the LDMC, as you can see by the attitudes of some who support or are linked with them :rolleyes: It's all just bubbling under the surface. Wouldn't surprise me one bit that they're only allowing L37 play there so they can get the ground developed to a decent standard......I like Jackman alot but I've no confidence in the LDMC.

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Originally Posted by Mercurial Vapor

"FACT". Limerick37 are only tenants in Jackman Park.

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Untrue.

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Originally Posted by Mercurial Vapor

It's just my opinion but I get the impression that the new LDMC committee are not as openly minded to senior soccer in Jackman Park as the previous committee that gave the go ahead.
Is smallmindedness the new phrase that is used instead of "FACT". Limerick37 are only tenants in Jackman Park.

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And wait and see who the players released from L37 are.All of the players who were Junior last year(easy option???).Thats going to play right into the hands of those who do their ut most to stop players from the junior ranks trying their luck at senior.

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Originally Posted by manalishi

And wait and see who the players released from L37 are.All of the players who were Junior last year(easy option???).Thats going to play right into the hands of those who do their ut most to stop players from the junior ranks trying their luck at senior.

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So what? Anyone that will be released will be players who are not good enough. And no surprise that the majority should be from the junior ranks, i.e. players who couldn't make the step up.... It would be the norm that there would be more players failing to make the jump from junior to senior, than players suceeding in making that jump.

Its very short-termist to look at the players who made the step up this year that didn't make it as evidence that players should not try. Okay, some players will be released but there are still a lot of L37 players who came through junior scene e.g Robbie Kelliher, Derek McCarthy, Tommy Barrett, Brian Buckley, Tierny (?) as well as practically all of the prospects in the 21s.

If 2 or 3 make the step up that would be a good return for them and the club.

If moving (again!!!) is being seriously discussed I believe the viability, pros and cons of moving to Thomond Park should be on the table as well.

It'd be a big, big ground for sure but so what? We should be thinking big and thinking long term.

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Originally Posted by 4tothefloor

Wouldn't surprise me one bit that they're only allowing L37 play there so they can get the ground developed to a decent standard......I like Jackman alot but I've no confidence in the LDMC.

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Wouldn't happen

The FAI would eat them alive

It's the Junior geniuses after getting the $hitty end of this stick. They just don't realise it (Quelle Suprise) :rolleyes:

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If moving (again!!!) is being seriously discussed I believe the viability, pros and cons of moving to Thomond Park should be on the table as well.

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Not unless they move Thomond Park to the Southside :eek: ;)

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Originally Posted by Lionel Ritchie

If moving (again!!!) is being seriously discussed I believe the viability, pros and cons of moving to Thomond Park should be on the table as well.

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The suburbs are no good for Limerick football. We need to stay in the city