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09/05/2007, 3:28 PM
Juz M

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Originally Posted by OneRedArmy

Are you Maxi?

Whoever he is he is changing his story. FIrstly it was just against us now bohs were involved in trouble also

In relation to trouble v Pats. mickdlk you probably dont remember or didnt see World War II. That doesnt mean it didnt happen.

Also the game against us in September with 10 minutes to go in a delicately poised top of the table clash suddenly a hoard of Dundalk "fans" (i use the term loosely) suddenly began to depart the ground. Now i dont pretend to be the most intelligent bloke in the world but it was even obvious to me what they were up to. As for the gate it wasnt broken down or anything like that it was wide open. We were told we were going to be kept back for "6" minutes by a steward and a police officer.

The reception we have received from both CO Louth clubs in the last year has been shocking to say the least. Maybe both of you have more in common than you think.

When i read the Drogheda Utd statement I couldnt help but think "heads in the sand". If we had have done that after the Simon Webb incident we would have been castigated.

Hypocritical I think.

KOH

JUZ
09/05/2007, 3:30 PM
GavinZac

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Originally Posted by WeAreRovers

As for calling me an idiot, I await the mods to stick by the attack the post not the poster rule.

Ok - the action you describe in that post would have been idiotic, and a wiser action would have been to alert the on duty Garda and walk away, rather than diverting the Garda's attention to your own behaviour.
09/05/2007, 3:30 PM
Erstwhile B�z

In fairness I'd question the bona fides of the thread-starter and his outlandish call to ban Drogs (echoing perfectly a drunken Drogs fan's rambling rant on the night of the Webb thing calling equally ludicrously for Rovers to be banned). Very Willie Frazer ;).
09/05/2007, 3:35 PM
Grayzer

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Originally Posted by Frankfurt Hoop

DUFC say that those who did it weren't at the game. That means they know who they are. Will they turn them in?

Also, who knew when the Rovers' players were ready to leave and the bus was being called up? That's the sort of question Drogheda should be be asking today.

It means nothing of the sort, it means they know they weren't at the game thats all, i.e. they did not enter Utd Park.

Oh ye, someone inside Drogheda rang the schooligans to let them know the bus was coming, good man!! Rovers fans and there conspiracy theories :D

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Originally Posted by OhNoYouDidn't

there is a physical attack on our players

They weren't on the bus so how was there a physical attack :confused:
09/05/2007, 3:38 PM
Juz M

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Originally Posted by mickdlk

I never changed my story I said we always get trouble with Rovers [and in always it is every time use come to Oriel] and had trouble with Bohs once in the last 5 years.
If what you are saying is correct and the gate was open and use were asked to stay for 6 minutes, How come use left when use knew there would be trouble???
To every sane person is because use wanted trouble

You said we only have trouble when rovers play dundalk. When Dodge said it happened v Pats you denied it and then changed your story to include an incident v Bohs.

The gate that night (AFAIK) was opened by either a steward or a cop now once a game is over (and especially in an away game on a thursday night after a days work) you just want to get out and get home.

So why did those fans leave ten mintes before the end of the game.

Look im leaving it at this as this is exactly what Drogheda Utd "Fans" want to avoid the issue of what happend last night. Maybe you are a drogs fan in disguise or else your just obsessed with us.

KOH

JUZ
09/05/2007, 3:40 PM
Juz M

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Originally Posted by Grayzer

It means nothing of the sort, it means they know they weren't at the game thats all, i.e. they did not enter Utd Park.

Oh ye, someone inside Drogheda rang the schooligans to let them know the bus was coming, good man!! Rovers fans and there conspiracy theories :D

They weren't on the bus so how was there a physical attack :confused:

So are we to take it it wasnt the gang of "Schooligans" that left 5 minutes before the end of the match then?

KOH

JUZ
09/05/2007, 3:43 PM
mickdlk

What happened was wrong Gardai should never have let it happen but what im reading here is that when it happens against Rovers it is a joke but when they are the trouble makers it is ok
09/05/2007, 3:43 PM
DvB

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Originally Posted by mickdlk

Are you having a laugh, Rovers got away with alot more, not remember being asked to stay in the ground for 10 minutes after the game in Oriel and breaking the gate to get out of the ground.... SUPPOSE THAT IS NOT TRUE ASWELL

I know 100% that the broken gate story is a complete & utter myth, the reason being i was the first Hoop to leave Oriel that night as i was on my way to meet up with the supporters club bus i was involved in running to the game that night, i along with 2 or 3 other walked straight out through the gate even having time to thank the stewards on the way who did likewise back! Sadly within seconds we ( trust me the three of us are far from being the burberry wearing scum as no doubt you see us all as) were the targets of a stoning & then attacked by local troublemakers!

That quite simply is the truth! Now enough of the propoganda! Enough is enough, the days of hiding behind 'Rovers did this, Rovers did that' should be long gone considering the actions of various different clubs 'supporters/locals' i've seen over the recent past!

Oh and to the poster above questioning the cameraman story, trust me it happened, i know the guy well as he travels on our supporters club bus and is far from being prone to fiction or exaggeration!

Koh
09/05/2007, 3:50 PM
Dodge

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Originally Posted by gilberto_eire

why cant the dublin(and louth)clubs(minority troublesome)fans have the laugh when they play other teams.... they all have this ''green street'' and ''football factory'' element in them and think there tough etc.... by causing trouble..... even the majority dont really want to get amongst the other fans(like the non-dublin/louth) and have a few drinks but thats fair enough though....
i tried adding a picture of derrys visit here last friday but didnt work/ dont know how...... well over 100 turned up to foxes like they we'r asked(i think 2/3 pats fans came in before the match when we played them) and us and them got the drums out round the side and got a bit of a buzz going...... everyone getting along drinking, kicking a football....... thats the way it should be!!

You're talking rubbish if you think its restricted to some clubs. I've been spit on in Sligo, had stones thrown at me in Cork and Waterford and Derry. The only ground I haven't witnessed trouble is Galways.

The truth is the vast vast vast majority of clubs have a tiny element. OThers have a larger element, but its still small compared to what happened in the 70s and early 80s.
09/05/2007, 5:25 PM
ndrog

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Originally Posted by OhNoYouDidn't

oh no you dont.....

have any Drogs fans got anything to say?

Yes .. wasnt there , didnt see it .We have an element of scumbags who have done this before , and they need to be delt with swiftly .They are not supporters of dufc as far as im concerned , but pure filth .The club and the cops are responsible for what goes on both inside and outside the ground in my opinion .As someone else pointed out we have had buses put in on many occasions on away trips .The last being up in dalymount if i remember correctly .The cops walked away from the bus and little scumbags chucked huge bricks at us .Pretty bad experience i have to admit. Feel sorry for the people on the shamrock rovers bus, the driver must have been freaked out .I also witnessed attacks by shels , bohs and rovers fans over the last 3 seasons and its not fun .Coming on here bitching at each other aint gonna make any difference .I hope whoever is responsible for this is arrested and charged .I also hope that DUFC contacts rovers to discuss the matter .We recieved a swift apology about simon webb so its only fair tbh .
Im gonna contact the local gardai for info about the incident , will let you know what they say .
09/05/2007, 5:51 PM
gilberto_eire

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Originally Posted by Dodge

You're talking rubbish if you think its restricted to some clubs. I've been spit on in Sligo, had stones thrown at me in Cork and Waterford and Derry. The only ground I haven't witnessed trouble is Galways.

The truth is the vast vast vast majority of clubs have a tiny element. OThers have a larger element, but its still small compared to what happened in the 70s and early 80s.

well i know you wont get total discipline everywhere but the problem clubs seem to be bohs,shels,pats,rovers drogs and dundalk by the sounds of things on here.... you'll always get bits and pieces everywhere else but nothing on the scale between the above stated clubs.....
09/05/2007, 6:02 PM
SligoBrewer

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Originally Posted by Dodge

You're talking rubbish if you think its restricted to some clubs. I've been spit on in Sligo, had stones thrown at me in Cork and Waterford and Derry. The only ground I haven't witnessed trouble is Galways.

The truth is the vast vast vast majority of clubs have a tiny element. OThers have a larger element, but its still small compared to what happened in the 70s and early 80s.

when?
09/05/2007, 6:03 PM
HulaHoop

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Originally Posted by mickdlk

You have def not read my posts becuase.
1. I said that me and my son were given verbel abuse for cheering when Dundalk had a chance [AT THE LEAGUE CUP GAME THIS YEAR]
2. As i have already said we only arrived after 30 minutes due to a crash at
Drogheda and the stewards would not allow us over to Riverside, suppose becuase they thought we were Rovers fans.
3. We asked to get moved over at half time and were told to stay where we were or just leave.
4. The Kid that got hit with the chocolate bar was a Rovers kid back in 2002.

So read my posts before posting crap

They say a liar needs a good memory. You've just proven it. Don't you remember the thread you created a couple of weeks back? You said you and your two year old son had stones and a chocolate bar thrown at you at the Rovers Dundalk match a couple of weeks ago not in 2002.

Attn Reiteoir - you were the one who deleted that thread. You must remember the allegations mickdlk made in it. He's now basically admitting he lied.

Attn Jebus - I know you hate Rovers but I remember you were fairly active in that thread. You remember mickdlk claiming him and his two year old son had stones and a chocolate bar thrown at him at Tolka a few weeks ago?
09/05/2007, 6:08 PM
S�C

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Originally Posted by Dodge

You're talking rubbish if you think its restricted to some clubs. I've been spit on in Sligo, had stones thrown at me in Cork and Waterford and Derry. The only ground I haven't witnessed trouble is Galways.

The truth is the vast vast vast majority of clubs have a tiny element. OThers have a larger element, but its still small compared to what happened in the 70s and early 80s.

Good post.

Most times you'll get a tiny bit of hassle from the odd few scum bags. My personal favorite incident was when a group of scuts wheeled a bike at us outside the Horse and Jockey. Upon closer inspection the bike was one that was previously stolen from another Cork City fan when he was at another match in Richmond Park, all important working parts like the chain and brakes removed of course. That was just plain classy
09/05/2007, 6:22 PM
R�iteoir

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Originally Posted by HulaHoop

They say a liar needs a good memory. You've just proven it. Don't you remember the thread you created a couple of weeks back? You said you and your two year old son had stones and a chocolate bar thrown at you at the Rovers Dundalk match a couple of weeks ago not in 2002.

Attn Reiteoir - you were the one who deleted that thread. You must remember the allegations mickdlk made in it. He's now basically admitting he lied.

Cheers Hula - it has been noted
09/05/2007, 6:44 PM
Dodge

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Originally Posted by SligoBrewer

when?

About 8 years ago. We were coming out of the ground and a fair few locals spay on us, threw half empty cans etc at us. We got a police escort to our bus

No big deal, but it did happen
09/05/2007, 6:48 PM
Raheny Red

This got a tiny, tiny mention in today's Star.

The bus being attacked not Pats fan been spit on 8 years ago btw :D
09/05/2007, 6:51 PM
Ger Fay

There have been alot of allagations made against Drogs on this topic.

I was there last night and every club has scumbags and for anyone to say that their club does not have is definately putting their heads in the sand. I

As a drog i totally condem what happened to the rovers bus and i hope the driver is ok. I also condem what happend to the 6 year old girl and hope she is ok. I know would not have had as much patience if it was my daughter and would have gone after the fella personally.

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Also these "Drogheda Skins" made a threatening phone call to a rovers fan 2 weeks ago.

Was this call reported to the Garda. Also how did he get the number. I am sure the club did not know the number.

These "Drogheda Skins" are not proper supporters of the club. They come up just before the end of a game with the intent of trying to cause trouble.
09/05/2007, 7:10 PM
swano

Louthsam it was most certainly not 20 Dundalk fans that were throwing bottles last season. I was there with a Galway fan who could tell you likewise.

Back on topic, I'm pretty confident that the little muppets who attacked the team bus were at the game. I left the game when we went 3-0 up and went into the pub for a pint. I left the pub about 5 minutes before the end of the game and there were a group of 15 young lads on their way out of the ground.
I walked about 50 yards behind them up to the car park where our team bus and supporters buses were. They were in the car park trying to look tough but obviously didn't do anything as there were loads of Rovers fans getting onto buses and into cars.
Our supporters bus was among the last of the vehicles to leave the car park and the little ****s were still hanging around. So now there's nobody in the car park bar the little scrotes and the team bus....

Obviously can't say 100% it was them as we were gone but it seems more than likely that it was.
09/05/2007, 7:20 PM
Louth4sam

I was there also and id believe my own eyes a lot quicker then someone on an internet forum or his galway fan friend. There was hundreds of people there as that is the direction that 95% of Dundalk fans walk. There was only a around 20 that where throwing stuff. Are you really trying to say one in every 10 dundalk supporters where throwing stuff? Anyway i don't see why this **** is been dragged up again
09/05/2007, 7:43 PM
OhNoYouDidn't

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Originally Posted by Louth4sam

Firstly will you cop on?? it was around 20 little scumbags that waited not 200. And secondly will people just ignore mickdlk its obvious he's just a wind up merchant.

there was more than 20. end of. the entire forecourt was full.

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Originally Posted by Louth4sam

As for the trouble, how can Drogheda UTD be made responsible for trouble that occurs outside the ground.

then they shouldnt have made such a big deal about the actions of one individual 2 weeks before..... you couldn;t have scripted this better. we hold the clubs responsible in all cases for the actions of fans in or near the stadia or we dont. not some clubs some of the time
09/05/2007, 7:56 PM
SligoBrewer

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Originally Posted by Dodge

About 8 years ago. We were coming out of the ground and a fair few locals spay on us, threw half empty cans etc at us. We got a police escort to our bus

No big deal, but it did happen

right, thought it was something i could remember dodge! was only 8 at the time so it was hardly me there:D :p
09/05/2007, 7:59 PM
Louth4sam

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Originally Posted by OhNoYouDidn't

there was more than 20. end of.

21 maybe?
09/05/2007, 8:49 PM
khoop

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Originally Posted by HulaHoop

They say a liar needs a good memory. You've just proven it. Don't you remember the thread you created a couple of weeks back? You said you and your two year old son had stones and a chocolate bar thrown at you at the Rovers Dundalk match a couple of weeks ago not in 2002

100 per cent correct.
09/05/2007, 9:12 PM
gilberto_eire

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Originally Posted by Ger Fay

There have been alot of allagations made against Drogs on this topic.

I was there last night and every club has scumbags and for anyone to say that their club does not have is definately putting their heads in the sand. I [/B]

As a drog i totally condem what happened to the rovers bus and i hope the driver is ok. I also condem what happend to the 6 year old girl and hope she is ok. I know would not have had as much patience if it was my daughter and would have gone after the fella personally.

Was this call reported to the Garda. Also how did he get the number. I am sure the club did not know the number.

These "Drogheda Skins" are not proper supporters of the club. They come up just before the end of a game with the intent of trying to cause trouble.

well i can tell ya we dont have ANY scumbag element in our club.... dont know why...maybe cause in galway going to a match on a friday night is deemed as a ''waste'' by the types who would do cause trouble!!.... our bad element consists of a couple of young fellas who sing along the songs and go str8 home as its nearly 10pm( all innocent boys)
09/05/2007, 9:25 PM
ndrog

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Originally Posted by OhNoYouDidn't

there was more than 20. end of. the entire forecourt was full.

then they shouldnt have made such a big deal about the actions of one individual 2 weeks before..... you couldn;t have scripted this better. we hold the clubs responsible in all cases for the actions of fans in or near the stadia or we dont. not some clubs some of the time

you are beginning to embarress yourself with the comparisons to the simon webb incident .TOTALY DIFFERENT SITUATION . The high moral stance of some of the rovers fans on here is hilarious .Look in the fcukin mirror for gods sake :rolleyes:

and before i forget , drogheda skins my arse .
09/05/2007, 9:31 PM
BohsFans

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Originally Posted by gilberto_eire

well i can tell ya we dont have ANY scumbag element in our club.... dont know why...maybe cause in galway going to a match on a friday night is deemed as a ''waste'' by the types who would do cause trouble!!.... our bad element consists of a couple of young fellas who sing along the songs and go str8 home as its nearly 10pm( all innocent boys)

I might be wrong, but weren't Galway fans going on about skooligans at Terryland last season on the Galway mb?
09/05/2007, 9:33 PM
Mr A

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Originally Posted by BohsFans

I might be wrong, but weren't Galway fans going on about skooligans at Terryland last season on the Galway mb?

Yip, the club put out a press release and DVD highlighting Galway schooligans as the best planned and most impressive in the country, and going on to deny that any other club actually had any.
09/05/2007, 10:31 PM
OhNoYouDidn't

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Originally Posted by ndrog

you are beginning to embarress yourself with the comparisons to the simon webb incident .TOTALY DIFFERENT SITUATION . The high moral stance of some of the rovers fans on here is hilarious .Look in the fcukin mirror for gods sake :rolleyes:

and before i forget , drogheda skins my arse .

so you think the management of Drogheda United FC reacted well to this incident?
09/05/2007, 10:36 PM
Conor H

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Originally Posted by BohsFans

I might be wrong, but weren't Galway fans going on about skooligans at Terryland last season on the Galway mb?

Correct.The same group threw stones at the Sligo Supporters Bus this year aswell.

As i stated here before every Club has an element-including us.

This is a stupid thread.It's been Rovers one week,Bohs another...i remember after we played Sligo in the league 2 years ago Sligo fans giving out about our fans.

Who will it be next week?
09/05/2007, 11:47 PM
Billy Lord

The general tone of this thread is pathetic. The Shamrock Rovers team bus was smashed, the bus driver was in shock and understandably refused to drive. Despite this precedent Drogheda United didn't give a toss (after being so sanctimonious following one Rovers' fan giving Simon Webb personal verbal abuse) and all people can do is throw more stones. No wonder Joe Soap doesn't care about the LoI. It's like a bunch of animated monkeys fighting over a shattered bone.
09/05/2007, 11:49 PM
gilberto_eire

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Originally Posted by BohsFans

I might be wrong, but weren't Galway fans going on about skooligans at Terryland last season on the Galway mb?

no but funnily enough one or two lads on our forum will state ''every club including ours has schooligans'' ours are lil well dressed rich boys as i said in galway anyway going to a game on friday night is a ''waste'' those type are off drinking somewhere...... the most the young fellas in terryland will do is shout abuse!!... even dodge(was it?) said galway was the only place he didnt see anything!!
09/05/2007, 11:54 PM
gilberto_eire

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Originally Posted by Conor H

Correct.The same group threw stones at the Sligo Supporters Bus this year aswell.

As i stated here before every Club has an element-including us.

This is a stupid thread.It's been Rovers one week,Bohs another...i remember after we played Sligo in the league 2 years ago Sligo fans giving out about our fans.

Who will it be next week?

conor our crowd are nowhere near on the par of this..... as i said you will get the odd bit and piece with a big crowd everywhere else but you wouldnt get anything outside dublin/louth like what does be posted here..... ok so 2-3 young fellas threw one or two rocks at the sligo fans bus..... but that was a once off and didnt involve anymore then 2/3/4 lil ****s(if im not mistaken i think i know who they we'r and they havent been back either)
10/05/2007, 12:43 AM
Billy Lord

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Originally Posted by gilberto_eire

conor our crowd are nowhere near on the par of this..... as i said you will get the odd bit and piece with a big crowd everywhere else but you wouldnt get anything outside dublin/louth like what does be posted here..... ok so 2-3 young fellas threw one or two rocks at the sligo fans bus..... but that was a once off and didnt involve anymore then 2/3/4 lil ****s(if im not mistaken i think i know who they we'r and they havent been back either)

Galway is a pleasure to visit in my experience as a Shamrock Rovers fan. The vast majority of locals are spot-on and we had great craic mixing last season and long may that continue. I can't think of another group outside of Finn Harps (the best fans by a long stretch) who made our lot as welcome. We encountered slight verbals outside Terryland on our second visit last season but we knew that the true Galway fans welcomed us and just treated it as a few uneducated locals hanging tough.
Respect to the Tribesmen.
10/05/2007, 1:47 AM
dfx-

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Originally Posted by Conor H

This is a stupid thread.It's been Rovers one week,Bohs another...i remember after we played Sligo in the league 2 years ago Sligo fans giving out about our fans.

Who will it be next week?

I said this with kdjac's thread the week before last.

I don't think the issue is as much the fans for Rovers. So much of this thread is irrelevant, sanctimonious sh!te from all sides which really eludes the point of Rovers' ire, imo.

The extent of the official Drogheda reaction [or lack thereof] is what really annoys me. Above and before all else, that is not acceptable, imo.
10/05/2007, 9:09 AM
ndrog

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Originally Posted by OhNoYouDidn't

so you think the management of Drogheda United FC reacted well to this incident?

If by the management of dufc you mean Paul Doolin ? what do you expect " him " to do .Read my last post i am condeming what happened because i am embarresed and disguisted with it .The board issued a statement on the website , what more do you want .Most of the rovers fans on here are now using this as an oppourtunity to get up on the moral highground for once in your lives .Can you please show me offical condemnation from your club for every incident involving rovers support from the last 5 years please .Dont think so .I also would have thought youd know better than to come out with classics like " Drogheda are scum and i hope they go bust " lines .This is the kind of thing said about you for years :rolleyes:
10/05/2007, 9:10 AM
passerrby

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Originally Posted by OhNoYouDidn't

so its our fault our team bus was smashed up?

sadly yes at least partly
10/05/2007, 10:10 AM
OneRedArmy

Billy I said previously that Garda incompetence played a large role in this and most other trouble outside EL grounds.

You and the other Rovers fans also tend to blame the guards when the trouble comes from the Rovers side.

Without changing the moral fabric of the whole country, there will always be a minority of scumbags looking for trouble, whether loosely associated with football or not.

What do you want people to do?

I don't really see the value in Drogheda making an apology, its actions that are needed to stop this kind of thing, and its action by the Gardai as its clearly a public order issue.

I may be wrong but you've stated elsewhere that you like your football "with an edge to it". When football has an edge to it, it invariably spills over into incidences like this, from time to time.

You can't have your cake and eat it.
10/05/2007, 10:45 AM
WeAreRovers

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Originally Posted by Dodge

Bloke I work said it was you, WeAreRovers, DvB and mypost. Said he heard you discussing it at the game "do you know what'd be great? Smashing up own team bus!!!! Just think of the fun to be had on the internet!"

Ssssshhhhh. Oh, and Billy wasn't there, part-timer.

KOH
10/05/2007, 10:51 AM
DvB

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Originally Posted by Dodge

Bloke I work said it was you, WeAreRovers, DvB and mypost. Said he heard you discussing it at the game "do you know what'd be great? Smashing up own team bus!!!! Just think of the fun to be had on the internet!"

Of the 4 mentioned one of them would be 'doing his own thing'.....trust me!;)

Koh

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