Weso hasn't played in this league in 2 years. Was a new thread in the EL section really necessary? We talk about how good a standard our league is now,so we are we still hung up on some English 2nd division player?
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Weso hasn't played in this league in 2 years. Was a new thread in the EL section really necessary? We talk about how good a standard our league is now,so we are we still hung up on some English 2nd division player?
Hes been class act this season.
Agree. Needs to be and should be playing in the Championship at least.Quote:
Originally Posted by Risteard
This thread should be in the National Team forum
Andy Reid did. Size doesnt matter talent does. Juninho, Romario etc. Too good for the likes of blackpool alright.Quote:
Originally Posted by lucanhoop87
KOH
Saw him in the recent play off game against John Sheridan's Oldham. He was heads and shoulders (figuratively speaking) above everyone else on the field and scored a good goal. Class act.
Saw some of that game & showed how p!ss poor League One football is. Hoolahan was playing a different style of football than the rest of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by OwlsFan
he's quality alright
used to be worth giving ollie €15 just to see him play. the goal he scored on sunday was magic. almost a shame he's in the playoff final. would have liked to see him play in america
Seen him in the League One playoff for Blackpool today. Had excellent game but more suited to higher standard. Only downside is he is small.
Even if he does not stay at Blackpool will surely play in at least the Championship.
He is ALWAYS a joy to watch - the most naturally talented player I have ever seen in a Shels jersey ahead of Shero and Ndo - so happy to see him do well which I always knew he would. His size doesn't matter, the ball sticks to his feet, he is like Juninho during his first Middlesbrough spell.
Was listening to it on the radio over here and they were raving about him too.
My favourite player in world football :D
Not really a downside IMO, he's a winger and down the years there have been plenty of small, quick, well balanced and skilled wingers/attackers. I'd say a lot of defenders hate having to mark him, big lads especially.Quote:
Originally Posted by pete
its a pity that he felt the need to move abroad, as some would say, too early, to too low a standard. considering the attention the eL and its players have had recently from english clubs its a safe bet to say he could've just gone straight to the championship or even premiership a la Bennett/Doyle/O'Donovan/O'Callaghan had he stayed in Ireland.
One of the best players I have seen play in the Eircom League if not the best, deserves to be a successfull player. Hope to see him in the Championship or Premiership next season, think he could make it.
Today was the first time I've seen him play since he was at Livingston. Played very well, he should get a call up soon enough. He's 25 tomorrow.
You need to have a team that passes the ball. Hoolohan not your tradtional winger lumping crosses in.
some of his passing was just amazing today. if parker was on his wavelength they might have got a few more. definitely good enough to play for a good championship side
He actually moved to the SPL with Livingston, when they were relegated he moved to Blackpool. Paul Tierney had made the same move shortly before. There are a fair few decent teams in League One btw. It's nice to see the eL get some respect but some folks here seem to think it plays second fiddle only to La Liga. I read an article on Ciaran Martyn who is on loan to a team in Norway, he says the standard of play there is far higher then the eL.Quote:
Originally Posted by GavinZac
If you think a team officially worse than gretna deserve respect then you have a fairly warped view on the eL.Quote:
Originally Posted by Qwerty
Not surprised to read that but in european games our top teams can give a very tough game. I think he was commenting more on the overall standard of play & facilities which would clearly be much higher.Quote:
Originally Posted by Qwerty
BTW most people were very surprised with his Livingston move & he is much too good for League One.
Are you talking about Livingston? If so they' weren't worse than Gretna when he moved there and they were actually very ambitious, and had a decent team but it didn't work out.Quote:
Originally Posted by GavinZac
I know they can, but they can also lose badly. Besides there is a big difference betwen cup football and league football. I remember seeing Cork City give Bayern a tough game back in the early 90's but I don't think they would survive in the Bundesliga then or now :DQuote:
Originally Posted by pete
The eL is improving and I think it's great, if the kids can be converted and stop thinking England is the beallandendall of football that would be a great thing.
He had a fantastic game today, best player on the pitch. Is he likely to stay with Blackpool or where does his future lie?Quote:
Originally Posted by Red4Eva
BTW, commentary for the first goal- 'Robbie Williams! Let me entertain you!' Oh dear...
always loved to watch him play...happy for him today...
how good was weso today? cant see him being at blackpool for much longer tbh, as was said if he'd been paitent he probable could already be at a championship side, espically given shels collapse
As borne out by the UEFA rankings. Not sure anyone here has ever claimed anything differentQuote:
Originally Posted by Qwerty
Doesn't matter to me how good/bad the league is compared to others. Its the ONLY league that metters to me.
Good Luck to Hoolahan.
Just to match the other Wes Hoolahan thread just started :rolleyes:. Perhaps they can be merged?
http://www.blackpooltoday.co.uk/spor...icleid=2905787Quote:
YOU know a player is a bit special when his team-mates can't stop talking about him.
And Wes Hoolahan has been the name on everyone's lips this season.
He's the man all the Seasiders players talk about, mainly because you can give the winger the ball in just about any situation and he's almost guaranteed to retain possession.
But Shaun Barker has gone one step further and has hailed Hoolahan as the best he's ever played with.
"If you go and watch him in training he is just unbelievable," said Barker. "He's without doubt the most talented player I have ever had the pleasure to play with.
"The one thing he does lack is that little bit of pace. If he had that extra bit of pace he could be playing at a much higher level at a much bigger club.
"But his skill, his ability and technique ... everything about him is fantastic.
"He can go as far as he wants to and fingers crossed that he does.
"All the boys want him to stay at Blackpool but that's a big decision that he has got to make."
Contract talks with Hoolahan have stepped up a gear this week.
His agent – his brother – has held discussions with Karl Oyston and the club is expected to make an announcement, one way or the other, next week.
Was at the game on Sunday.
Saw all his off the ball runs, which TV would have missed.
Keigan Parker failed to spot him on a number of occasions, where he was in a great position.
He got forward at every chance, tracked back well and made some very important tackles. The standing ovation would have been noticed on TV, but the comments from the fans around me, show that he's incredibly highly rated, at Blackpool.
I think he should reward the faith of Simon Grayson and spend at least one more season with the Seasiders. Ideally, he'd sign the 3 year deal that he was offered months ago.
He actually reminded me of Shaun Maloney on Sunday. He'll take a player on if needs be but first priority is to play the pass. Intelligent player.
I watched the game and didnt realise that Hoolahan was an ex-EL player. I was impressed with him, he has good vision and passing. What age is he? He did seem small in stature alright and The Championship is a very physical league and obviously the standard of football is higher than league 1 so he will take time to adjust to that. Given time he could most definitely play for a team in the middle tier of the PL.
I have only attended one EL game this season thus far (Cork City V Shamrock Rovers) but have to be honest and say that Blackpool v Yeovil game was a tad better in terms of football for me. Neither Blackpool or Yeovil would look out of place in the Championship but the EL game I saw was most definitely League One level.
(Before anyone attacks, I can only compare the games I have seen live. I have watched other EL games on tele but I tend only to use games I watch live when comparing leagues. I plan on seeing a few more EL games when I move back to Dublin next month, so I should be able to get a better picture of the standard of football here when I do so.)
I only watched one champions league game myself (Chelsea v Liverpool)but have to be honest and say the Blackpool v Yeovil game was a tad better in terms of football for me.Neither Blackpool or Yeovil would look out of place in the Championship but the Champions League game I saw was most definitely League One level.Quote:
Originally Posted by reder
I've been to countless Blackpool games and this is the first season that they've played good football, consitently. What was the consequence? They got promoted! I've seen so many bad games, I'd lost belief that Blackpool would ever get promoted.
Having watched Man U v Chelsea, in the FA Cup Final, I have to say, the game on Sunday was 10 times better.
Two different types of games - one is a league match where one team is content is sit back and hold out for a draw, the second is a cup match where the incentive to win is huge for both teams.Quote:
Originally Posted by reder
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Originally Posted by ifk101
yeh....but the likelihood is that the standard and quality of the play is going to be of a lower standard in the cup game where the stakes are so high where expectation and pressure is raised beyond belief.
Chelsea v Liverpool was a lot better than League One standard. It was also a lot more dull than your average League One game, but the standard was much higher.Quote:
Originally Posted by Billsthoughts
The standard of defending was incredibly high as it usually is in those games. That's why they are generally dull and appear, to the untrained eye, a much lower standard. They aren't-both teams are just cancelling each other out.
I don't agree, I watched a Milan Derby (also a CL semi I think) from a few years back and it was a 0-0 and one of the best games I have ever seen, proper defending by 2 top class teams.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cymro
Liverpool & Chelsea just spent 90 minutes hoofing the ball to their respective donkey centre forwards. I don't doubt there are talented players in both sides but that game in particular did nothing to showcase them.
The reason they were hoofing the ball to their respective donkey centre forwards was because their other attacking players were being marked out of the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by endabob1
Whereas with Crouch/Drogba it's a bit hard to mark them, since they're beanpoles who can beat everyone else in the air without even jumping. :)
As I said before, I only pass comments on games at which I was present when wanting to compare the levels of football. Luckily, I was at the 2nd CL semi at Anfield and have attended every liverpool v Chelsea game at Anfield for many years, so I am in a position to pass comment.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cymro
Thankfully, Cymro has hit the nail on the head 100%. Putting aside the level of tension involved in a fixture like a CL semi 2nd leg completely, a game of that magnitude between Chelsea and Liverpool is exactly like a game of chess.
There was absolutely no option to pass through midfield for the duration of that game. Both sides are top class defensively, so both managers had no other option but to direct their players to by-pass midfield and target their respective beanpole centre forwards.
i think i've heard that one after a UCD-Longford game too.Quote:
Originally Posted by reder
Yeah that was a 0-0 borefest earlier in the season.:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by GavinZac