That doesn't apply though if the use of flares is fully supervised.
And anyway, they've been used for years, what incidents of them being used as weapons have there been?
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That doesn't apply though if the use of flares is fully supervised.
And anyway, they've been used for years, what incidents of them being used as weapons have there been?
same arguement could be used in american gun control but its a poor arguementQuote:
Originally Posted by BohsPartisan
Great selective quoting there. You completely give the question of flares being used as weapons a by ball.Quote:
Originally Posted by passerrby
If clubs and fans worked together to designate people as authorised to use flares then the problem would be resolved.
Bohs had the best system, before the FAI waded in. The Event Security would come up before the game and go "Any flares lads? If you are going to use them, come down the front, there is a bucket of sand to extinguish it in"
But hey the FAI know best eh:rolleyes:
I wish I was on whatever hallucinogenic drugs you're on... what a stupid, illogical point. There is absolutely no comparison to be made between guns and flares. It's like comparing fluffy bunny rabbits to lions. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by passerrby
If only this board allowed name-calling, because that post deserves it!
Unless we're talking about Flare guns.Quote:
Originally Posted by LukeO
I'll get me coat.
1. if you have such a hardon for flares why not join the the coast guard.
they are danerous especially in the hands of fools.
p.s. they are pryotecnics not toys for boys
Drinking a bit early in the day aren't we?Quote:
Originally Posted by passerrby
There was guy killed by a flare in the Millennium Stadium in Wales when some idiots lit whatthey thoight was a regular flare and it shot across the stadium killing a guy on the other side of the ground
The word you are omitting is gun.Quote:
Originally Posted by monutdfc
He fired, not lit, a flare gun, with appalling (but understandable) consequences.
Also, it was in the Arms Park from memory.
:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by passerrby
is the football that bad that you need a flare to amuse yourself
its adds to the colour and atmosphere of the game passerby.In the right hands they are safe!
Well the FAI aren't impressed by them, check out this week's fines and suspensions.
Going back to the original point, I see Waterford were fined E100 for flares against us (which I never even noticed, to be honest). Also interesting that they were the away team and still got fined; it seems a lot of the time, the home team gets fined regardless of who was at fault.
Spoke to the FAI Observer in Tolka about the Flares and he said they mention it in their report and if the Club are seen to do something about it they may or may not get a fine if there is continued use of Flares the fines will be doubled until the Club or Clubs take action.
We have stamped them out at the R.S.C but can do sweet fa about them at away games, but we get fined 100 euro for a group of our fans setting them off at U.C.D but they get fined nothing, can somebody explain that to me, there bags werent searched going in?Quote:
Originally Posted by Karl Phillips
For the sake of €100 could anyone wanting to use them not have a bit of a whip round and give the old two fingers to Delaney and co. :confused:
The fines get doubled for continued breach of the rules.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lim till i die
Was thinking that myself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lim till i die
If you were to have a display would you be fined per flare or just the one €100 fine per game I wonder :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by BohsPartisan
It's not €100 per game. Fines get doubled every time you continue to have them at games.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lim till i die
Most flares are ignored.
Pats probably let them off more than anyone else and GUFC have a OTT policy with them aswell.
Sligo got away with it as did Waterford who let off about 5 against UCD.
The FAI's policy on flares is far from a tough one.
It appears to me aswell that the Dublin Clubs don't put to much effort into eradicating them at their games,as opposed to the Clubs around the Country.
For example......if you let one off at Dalymount at Richmond you'd be,at worst,told to out it out.
At Terryland you'd be removed from the ground and interrogated under the Terrorism Act.:rolleyes:
Pats, Shels and Waterford got fines.Quote:
Originally Posted by Conor H
Incurring a fine for flares is way more fun than incurring a fine for not handing in your team sheet.
Why werent ucd fined?
Unless you're "not handing in your team sheet on time" to Alan Kelly. Strange thing is he reported both Bohs and Rovers for that same game yet the PA announcer had the team sheets long before the deadline. Something smells fishy about that fine IMO. Anyone else from the Bohs or Rovers side heard anything on this?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr.Nightdub
Its the Team whose fans let off the flares that are fined.We have a search policy in galway but you cant strip search people.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tis-smeee
Its the same few clubs that let them off and it is dying out.
What, flares are diying out? Over my dead body! And is it a new thing for the away team to get fined as well if there fans let one off because last year I thought it was just the host club? And also, does anyone know about the rules for smoke? I know there not allowed either but are the fines and stuff the same?
I read on Shelsweb that BD will be paying the fine!Quote:
Originally Posted by Lim till i die
Athlone also got fined over a late team sheet for the away game in Dundalk.Quote:
Originally Posted by BohsPartisan
Probably late handing it in as none of our players turned up on the night :o
In Waterford we search bags and police our ground there was no such thing done up in Belfield, so how can you tell me that we are supposed to police away grounds?Quote:
Originally Posted by gufct
Therefore the only conclusion I can reach is that we do away with the security we are currently paying and leave the away fans to there own devices as we will be not fined.
What happens if the clubs just refuse to pay the fines? Are the FAI going to kick all the clubs out of the Delaneyship? Am I right in saying Rovers still haven't paid Scully's litany of fines from last season?
Not the last time I was there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tis-smeee
All clubs get a grant for entering the U-21 league and unpaid fines are offset from this grantQuote:
Originally Posted by Jaime
Were you going in in a big group all with bags and flares?Quote:
Originally Posted by Schumi
Why should we pay for your clubs **** up?
Bags, yes. Flares, no. How would anyone have known though?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tis-smeee
Why should we pay if your fans break the rules?Quote:
Why should we pay for your clubs **** up?
I agree totally with you but what can we do also , we are at the mercy of away security in these matters
Tis-smeee....
Why should UCD pay for Waterford fans letting off flares?They've done nothing wrong.
Stewards have no legal right to search you or the bag.Waterford fans let flares off=Waterford paying for fine.
Is it just Terryland you get searched in or is there any other ground?
No but guards do so if you put up a fight about been searched by a steward they'll probably refuse you entry and/or get the guards to search ya;).Quote:
Originally Posted by Conor H