I'm quite used to reading absolute and utter toss on here from time to time but your cocksure scoffing in the face of fact has just raised the bar.Quote:
Originally Posted by Risteard
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I'm quite used to reading absolute and utter toss on here from time to time but your cocksure scoffing in the face of fact has just raised the bar.Quote:
Originally Posted by Risteard
it was more a vehicle for people to slate the current Ireland set up....the closer it gets to the game the angrier I get that these shams manage my country...
No but Gavin Dykes comes close
Roddy Collins.Quote:
Originally Posted by cavan_fan
Steve Coppell at Man City lasted about 30 days or something
Why don't you just tell me where you disagree rather than telling me how upset you are?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lionel Ritchie
What fact am i scoffing at?
Yep. I'm disappointed he's allowed to be a pundit.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
If only Stan had decided after 30 days that he didnt fancy the pressure. he'd have left a hero having won 1 from 1 in some styleQuote:
Originally Posted by Clifford
Well I couldn't be arsed repeating myself when this isn't the first time or first thread on which O'Leary has been discussed as a replacment for Stan or as a future Ireland manager. So I'll quote myself in response to a Paul O'Shea comment on another thread instead. Highlighted is a fact your scoffing at.Quote:
Originally Posted by Risteard
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Sorry Paul but that's nonsensical.Quote:
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Originally Posted by paul_oshea
he has SFA footballing knowledge Neil, he was bankrolled to the cup champs league semis, and then they got well beaten in the end.
he cant do anything with average to decent players, isnt a good cup run manager, makes excuses for himself by always blaming others or putting things into the future, this does not make for a good international manager, where results needs to be pretty instant, and blame needs to be apportioned.
Much of the now relatively minor successes (seen as huge strides at the time) that Leeds team had were on the back of young players brought on in Leeds Thorpe Arch academy. The worst O'Leary can be accused of in that regard is that he stood on the shoulders of Howard Wilkinsons vision.
That they spent money they didn't have isn't an issue. DOL didn't sign cheques or negotiate wages.
What he did do was steer a team to the last 4 of the CL despite a media circus and a police incident room being set up at the training ground.
I'd have him back at Leeds in a shot if he'd take the job. I'd like to see him amnage Ireland someday too.
Fair enough Lionel.
Couldn't you have said that?
Was at that quarter-final in Elland Road and was some great talent on display.
Although I think Leeds had Europes second best team at that stage it was still an achievement.
Not without repeating myself ....or damaging my dilligently cultivated rep as an emotive reactionary who shoots from the hip.Quote:
Originally Posted by Risteard
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O don't be silly. And thats not his name by the way :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by NeilMcD
Hands down winner has to be Gareth Farrelly at Bohs.
Mike Walker during his brief reign at Everton in 1994.
as said above, Mike Kerley first half 2006 season, far worse than stan, differant level of incompatancey, completley out of his depth in the premier league :mad:
though he had a great record with limerick prior to signing for us, on a tiny budget and got them to a league cup semi final i think:eek:
he did everything wrong, preparation, training, signings, tactics
stan could only wish to be as bad
Ossie Ardiles' Spurs side which couldn't go 10 minutes without conceding a goal was way worse that Gross' reign.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerry The Saint
Here's a couple that comes to mind. Erick Ribbech of Germany in Euro' 2000 and Christian Chukwu coaching Nigeria. Bobby Gould with Wales, Henri Michel with Cameroon, Stuart Baxter and "Shakes" with South Africa, the Austria manager in 1999-2000, Herbert Prohaska, I think (losing 9-0 to Spain).
John Toshack
He was out managed by Stan, which says a helluva lotQuote:
Originally Posted by Soper
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Originally Posted by Billsthoughts
i dont think gross was worse than staunton. he did really well with basle
If Toshack had ten Premiership players on the pitch like Stan Laurel had (and three more to bring off the bench), the score would have been very different.Quote:
Originally Posted by theworm2345
At least Toshack is trying to change the way we play the game into a style that will enable us to compete with European teams. We just don't have any kind of cutting edge, at all. That's down to the players we have and not Toshack's fault. Staunton's tactics on Saturday were kick and hope, and that's being kind. sometimes it was just hope.
Kick and hope to our lone dwarf striker no less - you can see why people are clutching at straws to find worse managers anywhere in the world at any point in history. :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by Cymro
They guy that managed that kids team in England somewhere that lost something like three seasons in a row, scored 6 goals in the time and averaged 8 conceded. Him. He'd give Stan a run for his money.